08-11-2022, 03:28 PM
(This post was last modified: 08-11-2022, 03:29 PM by ReconGunner.)
(08-11-2022, 12:51 PM)Shannon Wrote: You can do everything "right" to achieve high T, but if your body isn't specifically directed to do it, it will naturally slow down in T (and other) hormone production as you age. Eating the right things helps. Detoxing helps. Not eating the wrong things helps. Exercise helps. But natural hormone production fades as you age regardless. That's why there's so much market for hormone therapy, hormone boosters, etc. The only way to get the body to produce optimal levels of hormones is to be the right age with the right genetics, or to either induce it to or force it to. To the best of my knowledge, no matter what I do, I'm not going to be able to make a sub that causes you to produce optimal hormone levels without actively using the program.
Agreed.
The way I see getting a persistent result from TOFM is this: in addition to the testes, lean muscle mass is a source of testosterone - the more muscle mass, the more T. While TOFM is elevating T, all of the lifting, eating well, etc. will take advantage of the elevated T to produce more lean muscle. That lean muscle will result in a higher "native" level of T production when TOFM is set aside to run other subs. So the persistent effect I think will happen isn't "sub continues to work after you stop listening", it is "sub raises T, increased T increases the lean muscle mass that comes from lifting, etc., increased muscle mass produces more T independent of the sub".
Now, how much lean muscle mass would someone need to gain to maintain the TOFM-elevated T-levels? I have no idea, because it's going to vary. But using TOFM to jumpstart the muscle gain by raising T for a few months of hard workouts, etc. should be a big push forward. And continuing to lift, eat right, etc. after moving on to other subs will keep the positive feedback cycle going.
Occasional booster runs of TOFM won't hurt, either.