Shannon's Journal Discussion

[TheRealJustin]

Hey there, Shannon.

Do you plan on offering BASE 4G in the store? I'd really appreciate if you do. I understand it has the potential to be perceived erroneously to have both 4G and 5G versions of the same program. But to be honest, I cannot imagine shelling out another $500 at this point of my life and BASE 4G will be nothing short of a blessing. And maybe it will prove to be a stepping stone to BASE 5G in the future.

I think this should be in the store too since it is just one tiny little part of BASE5g, the only thing is it has the same title, but a title is easy to change. It's like Develop An Aura of Sexiness is in a few programs (I think) and you can also buy it on its own. Think Like A Millionaire is in BASE5g and can also be purchased solo. I think the main thing is that they share the same name and that can confuse people, but I agree 100% people should be able to buy this glorious sub!

[CatMan]

Interesting Ideas. I was under the impression that: there is a sub working in all the stages of AM 6 concerning removing fear and traumas. It is a total package ?
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Hi Templecity,

EHPRA 1.0, a wonderful program for healing traumas and releasing GSF and self validation and others. It's excellent and baked into every stage of AM6. It's also one of IML's free subliminals. AM6 is a total package, don't worry. This post was more about the magnets and OF 5G itself as a standalone single stage program.

EHPRA 2.0 has more in it. More healing and in different ways and adding much more material. It is a paid subliminal. Currently in BE and released on it's own soon and maybe in one of the programs I mentioned haha .

[AlphaRomeo]

^^^^EHPRA 2.0: Cool...I thought it made only into new Breast Enlargement program (not that I would ever run that haha) ,are you sure it´s also in BASE 2.1? (The product page does not mention anything about it)

[Shawn]

According to the description at product page there is EPRHA and not EPRHA 2.0 inside.

[CatMan]

Yes it is FOCK. That's what happens when you post about one program, and PM about the other. You mix them up when you aren't paying attention, epic fail. BE should be the one with the new EHPRA. BASE has retro EHPRA which is still great and I'd be happy with even that in the magnets. I will update comment so it makes sense.

[dissonance]

Overcoming Fear Five Gee. Yes x10. Baby. Yes.

*edit* Though now that I think about it, it takes so long to make 5Gs, that I feel like 6 months of 4G OF would be over by the time 5G OF would be done.

Actually nevermind, I have no idea how long it takes to make 5G programs, lol.

[4Kingdoms]

Overcoming Fear Five Gee. Yes x10. Baby. Yes.

*edit* Though now that I think about it, it takes so long to make 5Gs, that I feel like 6 months of 4G OF would be over by the time 5G OF would be done.

Actually nevermind, I have no idea how long it takes to make 5G programs, lol.

I asked Shannon when Maximum Learning Speed would be ready 2015 or 2016
http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-5838-p...l#pid87353

It was about to be built when you guys made all these suggestions. It'll take a day or two to get ready again. So, yes, 2015. Probably in less than a week.

As you know, when Shannon returns from Savannah he will be uploading MLS 5G.

I don't know what he is planning on working on next. EPRHA 2.0 or OF 5G or something else more important on his list.

He does take our suggestions into consideration and that's what slows down the process. He did say a week; that was 4 days ago and even when he gets back from his well deserved getaway, it will still be delivered on time!

[JackOfHearts]

I think you guys are confusing some stuff here about the different fear sub.

First as Shannon described it when he first created "OGSF", "overcome fear, guilt and shame" is Overcoming fear + guilt and shame added.
Running OF on it's own would be more useful if you don't have any shame and guilt.

EPHRA was created to be a more nicer version of OGSF while being as powerful and it seems to be exactly that. OGSF was reported as too harsh, too much resistance so he created EPHRA. But some people prefer it the hard way and doesn't feel good if they don't feel a good resistance so they prefer to use OF/OGSF over EPHRA. I'm not saying everyone who use OF/OGSF are like that. I just noticed there is this tendency.
Adding OF in OGSF doesn't make sense at all to me. Same to add OF to EPHRA.

OGSF is in AM6 so there is also OF in it.

Catman I think you would more benefit from another run of AM6 than just using OF, OGSF or EPHRA.

And last thing I think Shannon wrote somewhere that he didn't create OF or OGSF in 5G because he thought it would be harsher than the 4G version and the 4G version was already reported as too harsh.

Edit: I could also add that some people reported better results with OF than with OGSF so some people tend to believe that OF is more powerful. But to me there is not enough reports to prove this to be true. Same for OF/OGSF being better than EPHRA: not enough report. There is not enough guys who did both EPHRA and OF/OGSF. And even if there were it would still be hard to be sure about which one is better, check the AM5 vs AM6 thread.

[terry44]

According to the description at product page there is EPRHA and not EPRHA 2.0 inside.

Well done for actually getting the acronym right! it's listed as Emotional Pain Relief & Healing Aid in the store, so it should be EPRHA, but nobody writes it like that, including Shannon. Might sound like a minor point, but it will make it easier for people to search previous forum posts if there's consistency.

[dissonance]

Overcoming Fear Five Gee. Yes x10. Baby. Yes.

*edit* Though now that I think about it, it takes so long to make 5Gs, that I feel like 6 months of 4G OF would be over by the time 5G OF would be done.

Actually nevermind, I have no idea how long it takes to make 5G programs, lol.

I asked Shannon when Maximum Learning Speed would be ready 2015 or 2016
http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-5838-p...l#pid87353

It was about to be built when you guys made all these suggestions. It'll take a day or two to get ready again. So, yes, 2015. Probably in less than a week.

As you know, when Shannon returns from Savannah he will be uploading MLS 5G.

I don't know what he is planning on working on next. EPRHA 2.0 or OF 5G or something else more important on his list.

He does take our suggestions into consideration and that's what slows down the process. He did say a week; that was 4 days ago and even when he gets back from his well deserved getaway, it will still be delivered on time!

How long ago was the work on MLS 5G started?

[Natious]

It should be quick since if I remember correctly he's extracting it from BASE's script.
That makes me question which version is the OF in WM. If it's 5G it could be extracted the same way.

[Superman]

I think most people believe that the fear removal in OGSF isn't as powerful as OF because when you compare the scripts of the 4g titles OGSF has Identical statements about guilt and shame but less statements about fear.

I would post the changes but I'm on mobile right now

[dissonance]

I think you guys are confusing some stuff here about the different fear sub.

First as Shannon described it when he first created "OGSF", "overcome fear, guilt and shame" is Overcoming fear + guilt and shame added.
Running OF on it's own would be more useful if you don't have any shame and guilt.

EPHRA was created to be a more nicer version of OGSF while being as powerful and it seems to be exactly that. OGSF was reported as too harsh, too much resistance so he created EPHRA. But some people prefer it the hard way and doesn't feel good if they don't feel a good resistance so they prefer to use OF/OGSF over EPHRA. I'm not saying everyone who use OF/OGSF are like that. I just noticed there is this tendency.
Adding OF in OGSF doesn't make sense at all to me. Same to add OF to EPHRA.

OGSF is in AM6 so there is also OF in it.

Catman I think you would more benefit from another run of AM6 than just using OF, OGSF or EPHRA.

And last thing I think Shannon wrote somewhere that he didn't create OF or OGSF in 5G because he thought it would be harsher than the 4G version and the 4G version was already reported as too harsh.

Edit: I could also add that some people reported better results with OF than with OGSF so some people tend to believe that OF is more powerful. But to me there is not enough reports to prove this to be true. Same for OF/OGSF being better than EPHRA: not enough report. There is not enough guys who did both EPHRA and OF/OGSF. And even if there were it would still be hard to be sure about which one is better, check the AM5 vs AM6 thread.

Yeah Superman is right, the script has more fear related statements directed at the subconscious, and hits fear from different angles. I definitely feel like the constant bombardment of statements about fear after fear, would be a lot more powerful in terms of destroying deep seated fears than a very broad-spectrum script like AM6, which deals with SO much (that's why it requires multiple runs to become truly ingrained). I don't know though, I'm not an expert.

[dissonance]

It should be quick since if I remember correctly he's extracting it from BASE's script.
That makes me question which version is the OF in WM. If it's 5G it could be extracted the same way.

That's really great, because I am getting my funds from my mom cut off very soon, and I am going to be REQUIRED to man up and get a job, which might be tough being a waiter if I'm going through the potential turbulence in 4G OF 1.1.