Shannon's Journal Discussion

[Shannon]

Well that's far too unfortunate. Is tomorrow at least certain, or is it likely to be this Friday?

I'm going to try to get the rest of the work done to the point that when this one is uploaded, it can be linked and made live by Ben, even if I don't have the description finished. I just need to upload and do the disclaimer. But it is better for us to avoid more problems, and while I haven't had a chance to discover exactly what alpha was referring to when he said the 29th and 30th were bad days to release, I don't take his skills lightly.

So let's do this the right way and avoid yet further delays.

[Aventus45]

I hope I can run V3.0.01A tmw or earlier c:

You're welcome to run it yesterday, but earlier than that is out of the question.

The links didn't chan- ahhhh

[Shannon]

I hope I can run V3.0.01A tmw or earlier c:

You're welcome to run it yesterday, but earlier than that is out of the question.

The links didn't chan- ahhhh

Gotcha.

[Bookstacks DC737]

Well that's far too unfortunate. Is tomorrow at least certain, or is it likely to be this Friday?

I'm going to try to get the rest of the work done to the point that when this one is uploaded, it can be linked and made live by Ben, even if I don't have the description finished. I just need to upload and do the disclaimer. But it is better for us to avoid more problems, and while I haven't had a chance to discover exactly what alpha was referring to when he said the 29th and 30th were bad days to release, I don't take his skills lightly.

So let's do this the right way and avoid yet further delays.

I don't particularly believe in astrology so it's a bit upsetting that this release is being delayed by such a prediction, but okay.

I'm not really sure how the whole thing works, but if we're trying to avoid releasing something on the 30th, couldn't we bypass that by releasing it in the wee hours of the 1st?

Or is there more to it than Alpha's prediction?

[Shannon]

Well that's far too unfortunate. Is tomorrow at least certain, or is it likely to be this Friday?

I'm going to try to get the rest of the work done to the point that when this one is uploaded, it can be linked and made live by Ben, even if I don't have the description finished. I just need to upload and do the disclaimer. But it is better for us to avoid more problems, and while I haven't had a chance to discover exactly what alpha was referring to when he said the 29th and 30th were bad days to release, I don't take his skills lightly.

So let's do this the right way and avoid yet further delays.

I don't particularly believe in astrology so it's a bit upsetting that this release is being delayed by such a prediction, but okay.

I'm not really sure how the whole thing works, but if we're trying to avoid releasing something on the 30th, couldn't we bypass that by releasing it in the wee hours of the 1st?

Or is there more to it than Alpha's prediction?

I don't particularly believe in billion to one "accidents", so it's a bit upsetting that one of those killed my first attempt AND destroyed MIR 2.1's script forever.

I just don't need any more blind siding. I'm going to do it right, which is what I originally planned to do. It just happens that that puts release after the 30th, and while I don't know what he saw or whether I agree with it, and I don't have the time or energy to find out, I do know that I am not risking any more problems to please the impatient. That's all we need, more time spent waiting because I didn't do it right.

[bits]

yea i delayed launching something today

why risk it? There are enough things outside of my control and things within my own control that can be screwed up. What's another day or two?

[Dutchman610]

Hi Shannon,

I see V3.0.1-A is uploading? Wonderful, we will have it soon, very exciting.

I'm thinking of getting Stop Smoking for a friend who needs to quit and wants to badly. But, I had to ask, I remember you saying that program needs to be rebuild and you seemed to be unsatisfied with it. Is that accurate? Is it working well or are you feeling it needs work still?

Stop Smoking is currently in a single stage format. Originally it was a six stage format.

Six stage format worked because it stepped you up gradually. But nobody wanted to buy it because it was $500 a copy.

When I rebuilt it, it was a single stage, for $89.95, but trying to do all that at once isn't working anywhere near as well as before.

Anything is better than nothing, especially if they use it 6 months straight. It still works for some. But it's better in 6 stage format. That's what I have to re-build. That and the latest technological wizardry.

O
I'm wondering why quit smoking, takes a six stage approach to be effective. But, quit alcohol is a single stage? Is one a deep addiction than the other, or is quit alcohol meant to be a six stage also.

[wolverine_i_am]

It's already the 1st in some parts of the world.

Lol kidding. Take your time with the disclaimer, Shannon!

[Blacksheep]

Shannon, late question about v3.0.1:

Was anything added to the program specifically related to eye contact or body language?

[RoaringLion]

So when will we be able to download version A? I'm abit confused now. Please answer with an estimated time for example "10 hours from now"

Thank you

[Shannon]

Hi Shannon,

I see V3.0.1-A is uploading? Wonderful, we will have it soon, very exciting.

I'm thinking of getting Stop Smoking for a friend who needs to quit and wants to badly. But, I had to ask, I remember you saying that program needs to be rebuild and you seemed to be unsatisfied with it. Is that accurate? Is it working well or are you feeling it needs work still?

Stop Smoking is currently in a single stage format. Originally it was a six stage format.

Six stage format worked because it stepped you up gradually. But nobody wanted to buy it because it was $500 a copy.

When I rebuilt it, it was a single stage, for $89.95, but trying to do all that at once isn't working anywhere near as well as before.

Anything is better than nothing, especially if they use it 6 months straight. It still works for some. But it's better in 6 stage format. That's what I have to re-build. That and the latest technological wizardry.

O
I'm wondering why quit smoking, takes a six stage approach to be effective. But, quit alcohol is a single stage? Is one a deep addiction than the other, or is quit alcohol meant to be a six stage also.

First of all, despite popular mythology, alcoholism isn't an addiction and it sure as hell isn't any type of "disease". They'd love to make you think it is, because then you don't have to take responsibility for not buying, opening and drinking it... so someone can make money or have control of you on some sort of "recovery" regimen.

The truth is, alcoholism is self medication, just like smoking, and marijuana and most other drugs, but alcohol isn't physically addictive. It's psychologically very addictive to certain personality and physiology types, though, because they find an easy escape in it.

Stop smoking works best as a six stage approach because there's a lot of different variables to dealing with it than alcoholism. And at some point, "science" will figure that out.

Until then... alcoholism is a choice, but the physical addiction does not exist. The root cause of alcoholism is the seeking to escape guilt, shame, fear and/or self loathing through the effects of alcohol on the brain. The "addiction" is really just a heightened psychological tendency to escapism, and it is enabled and empowered by the "addiction" and "disease" labels. Give that same person a way to deal with whatever they're dealing with through alcohol in another way, deny them their drug of choice, and they'll go straight to that new option because they're still trying to escape, rather than deal with it.

A lot of it has to do with the person's level of emotional maturity. More maturity leads to more likely "recovery" (which is itself a bullshit term used to retroactively imply "disease and addiction"). I have witnessed "alcoholics" at all stages of "alcoholism" for decades now, and the ones who keep doing it are the ones who believe they can get away with it, or believe they have no other choice. The rest sober up and move on with life.

In this regard, just as with smoking, it is the beliefs that bind you. Beliefs that you have no other choice, beliefs that you have no need to grow up and take responsibility for your choices and actions because someone else will do it for you, or forgive you, or pat you on the head.

Smoking has a lot of the same thing, and is vastly more socially acceptable. It actually is a legitimate addiction, albeit a much more minor one than people think.

But the real difference between why those two programs are different sizes boils down to two things.

1. Stop Drinking got very good feedback in one stage, and Stop Smoking did not;
2. The people prone to alcoholism have a different physiology and psychology than those who are prone to smoking, but not alcoholism. Different approaches are required for each.

It is going to be that both programs will be rebuilt in 6G. They may be 1, 3 or 6 stages each, it will depend on whatever works best.

[Shannon]

So when will we be able to download version A? I'm abit confused now. Please answer with an estimated time for example "10 hours from now"

Thank you

When I release it. Have not decided whether to release A and then B, or both at once.

[Shannon]

The ol forums really grinding along. Seems to take 3 attempts for every page you want to view.

Is it DMSI related?

No, and we are working on it.

[Raykon]

So when will we be able to download version A? I'm abit confused now. Please answer with an estimated time for example "10 hours from now"

Thank you

When I release it. Have not decided whether to release A and then B, or both at once.

which version has the healing in it? I can't find the original thread or post that says which version is which.