Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3

[Oversoul]

Just had someone do an online tarot reading on me. He basically pulled out all the cards DMSI would suggest I am like. Weird

[DarkPlouf]

I bought LTU 4.0 as a gift for my Uncle. He is old school, I had to put it on a compact disc just so he could use it.

TBH, initially, I was shocked by the introductory price of $600. After reading the description, the price is justified!!

Patiently waiting for UMS...

As far as I remember it isn't the first time you buy subs for your relatives. How do you actually make them use the subs? I've been wanting to expose my dad to a copy MHS I bough centuries ago but I don't know how to approach it. I can't explain these stuff to them, they'll get defensive and suspicious, and probably trigger the ugliest form of "resistance" even if they agree to test.
Right now I'm very close to my sister and I wonder if it's right to expose her to the ultrasonic sub without her consent. Even thou I think that could help her.

I'm 53 y/o and I take care of my Mom 75 y/o, blind. We live together. When it's a program like USLM3, I play it on speakers and she hears it. When I was using DMSI, I used earphones.

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With my Uncle, I had to make a compact disc because he still uses a cd player. I cut and pasted the product description, only picking what I knew he would be interested in.

Ultra Success Luck Maximizer, Disconnect From Negative Stress, Genuine Gratitude & Appreciation (Which tends to result in attracting more good things into your life.), and Anger Management.

While he was genuinely happy to receive the cd and product description. Whether or not he actually plays it and follows instructions is on him. Fortunately, we gather as a family once a week for cookouts and I'll be able to observe changes in his behavior up close and from a distance.

Does it work with your mother?
I would love to play for my family but we live in Brazil and they don't speak english =/ such a shame
Maybe one day i will make a type of 1G sub in portugues for my family with simple instructions like "i love myself". I have a grandmother who is 73 in the verge of dementia and awful limiting beliefs, i am sure she would greatly benefit from any kind of improvement.

Yeah that's what I plan to do for my sister. She isn't good at English so I'd have to craft something. But my father does speak English fairly well.
@4Kingdoms thanks for answering.

BTW, I never thought of it before but maybe the fact that I don't speak (nor listen) english 100% well impeded the results. It's not like I got the greatest of the experience with IML subs.

[ncbeareatingman]

Well well...what I find interesting and curious is that,since you combined 12 programs into 1 aka LTU,which is incredible,as stated its a first..OK well then, programs like AM7 and BAMM,what in the heck would they contain,as possibilities. This is more like a STATEMENT than a question. its like saying "Geez what are the possibilities here,I wonder? seems like the sky's becoming not even the limit. so it would seem. FRM 4.5 is a mother lode in and of itself.

[Paul1131]

I bought LTU 4.0 as a gift for my Uncle. He is old school, I had to put it on a compact disc just so he could use it.

TBH, initially, I was shocked by the introductory price of $600. After reading the description, the price is justified!!

Patiently waiting for UMS...

As far as I remember it isn't the first time you buy subs for your relatives. How do you actually make them use the subs? I've been wanting to expose my dad to a copy MHS I bough centuries ago but I don't know how to approach it. I can't explain these stuff to them, they'll get defensive and suspicious, and probably trigger the ugliest form of "resistance" even if they agree to test.
Right now I'm very close to my sister and I wonder if it's right to expose her to the ultrasonic sub without her consent. Even though I think that could help her.

My two cents on your question here. No. You are exposing someone to a powerful mind altering influence which can change their life or even personality. It would be unethical to do that without their knowledge and consent. That would interfere with their free will and ability to make decisions for themsellf. You may be better off simply telling her about how great your results are, and encouraging her to try it. If not, it’s her life and her decision.

[Paul1131]

My take on the pricing thing: 600 is quite a fair price for what’s being offered here given how much more effective (at least for me) the 5.5G products have been than anything I’ve run into before. If 6G is another quantum leap ahead, then 300 isn’t too much to ask. I’ve been considerably poorer than I am now, and even then I could scrape together three or even six hundred for something that I really wanted. God knows I spent that much on things with a lot less value than IML subs when I was younger.
The prices will modify my behavior somewhat. I am unlikely to buy a bunch of subs at once, and am more likely to stay on one for a longer period of time, so instead of making five or ten purchases a year, I’m more likely to stick to one or two. However that will ensure that we stay on them long enough to get the full value out of them. So it’s kind of a win win.
Also, someone who is executing a lot of the current and planned subs is very likely to improve their financial situation so what was a stretch for the first one isn’t so much for the next. We will have to prioritize more, and hit the important stuff first.

[Benjamin]

Bought and downloading now. I'm very curious to see what this one can do!

There seems to be a little problem with downloading the file with the hashes - might have to do with the typo in the filename?

Code:

<Error>
<Code>NoSuchKey</Code>
<Message>The specified key does not exist.</Message>
<Key>
l/Life_Tune_Up_4_in_5_5G/Life_Tune_Up_4_0_MD5__SHA256_HJashes.txt
</Key>
<RequestId>AEAFB507DB43F9C6</RequestId>
<HostId>
wRHB25Btyh2MI4DhYtneKDMGnVOefD/RhWqHghsmhqODeKOhBVVjRczWRIipicWsz76RJp7s6B8=
</HostId>
</Error>

Sorry, i'll fix that. I wondered if that might happen.

[OberynMartell]

Long time no see guys! Still an avid user of DMSI, didn't journal though because of some very heavy personal stuff. Now I see that Shannon dropped LTU 4.0, very exciting stuff!

So @Shannon, what should I do? I really want to experience this new sub, however could it be an escape tactic for DMSI?

What version of DMSI are you using? How long has it been? What results are you getting? I don't know enough to answer your question.

Yeah I didn't give you enough information, sorry about that. Currently using the newest 3.1.1 D, until now 8 back to back loops a day. So not much to say about this, because it's only been 7 days. I've been using the sub DMSI since the beginning, since AOSI it was called if I remember correctly.
I really began to execute around DMSI 3.1, after that no results. Always followed the instructions and amount of loops.
In the meantime: Gained a lot of weight in body fat, which was/is really bad for my confidence. Also had a lot of personal setbacks in that period. After a lot of problems, I'm back at the good things again. Going to start a part time study which my boss will pay fully for, have still great rapport with my female co-workers. People notice that. But other than that, nothing like on 3.1.
So in summary, I know what the program can do, I know its power if you execute. Now to my question, what should I do? I really want to get the results of the program. But LTU sounds so good, it's almost impossible not to try it out. Maybe it is something I should figure out myself, just hoping if you or another member could help me in the right direction. Because it would suck if it was my subconscious trying to deny me results because of fear.

[Broski]

Shannon is PTPA not included in LTU? Didnt see it on the description page, but thought that was going to be one of the included titles. I mean its plenty enough of a beast with everything else included, was just curious

[Benjamin]

Bought and downloading now. I'm very curious to see what this one can do!

There seems to be a little problem with downloading the file with the hashes - might have to do with the typo in the filename?

Code:

<Error>
<Code>NoSuchKey</Code>
<Message>The specified key does not exist.</Message>
<Key>
l/Life_Tune_Up_4_in_5_5G/Life_Tune_Up_4_0_MD5__SHA256_HJashes.txt
</Key>
<RequestId>AEAFB507DB43F9C6</RequestId>
<HostId>
wRHB25Btyh2MI4DhYtneKDMGnVOefD/RhWqHghsmhqODeKOhBVVjRczWRIipicWsz76RJp7s6B8=
</HostId>
</Error>

Sorry, i'll fix that. I wondered if that might happen.

Should be fixed, let me know. I won't be around for a few hours atleast though.

[Benjamin]

PTPA is in the skeleton script.

[Rossignol17]

It is obvious that some will find the price huge and others a bargain.

Ask someone living in a country that gets a $400 monthly wage, someone that gets $3k monthly wage and someone who pays a performance coach for $200 a session and you will get three different stories about how good or bad the LTU price is.

Even if you go further some people value self-development more and some others not. I paid $500 for AM, run it twice already and did a hundred changes in my appearance, lifestyle and character in general. If I was to do this with coaching I would definitely need a team of different people to coach me, a lot of energy and focus and would still not have the natural smooth changes I experienced. Now if someone would take all these back and make me pay again I would pay at least $5k to get them back.

It is also obvious as terry44 mentioned that an ideal price (which I am not sure how it can be properly determined) will make more profit to Shannon. Yet again Shannon might have other things in mind. For example keeping a specific price and delivering results-value to customers might attract the right audience that can pay.

Yeah, I suppose that would mean that subs have gone from something anyone with an open mind and a modest income could afford to try, to something only those with a much larger amount of spare cash can afford.

From Shannon’s earlier post, it sounds like he plans to offer 4G and 5G products at lower price points and keep 6G higher priced as a way to offer different sub levels for a wide variety of consumers. Somewhat similar to the way a new smartphone comes out each year and the last year’s gets cheaper.

It’s a smart approach imo but the big issue I see is the limit of 4G and 5G subs. From what I’ve seen, it could be that a 4G and a 6G version of the same sub exists and someone would be more than willing to pay the price for the 6G but they never tried subs so they try the 4G one out but they “resist” the entire sub and decide they just don’t work. Whereas if they had used the 6G one they’d get the results and stay a long time customer.

I think it’d be great though if at some point 4G and 5G received some kind of “anti resisting” upgrade so that doesn’t happen. Or maybe something where you take an online quiz that tells you the minimum sub generation you should use. Just something that crossed my mind.

ASC 6G will be offered for free, so that "resistor" type would have an opportunity to experience the power of a 6G sub without risk.

And there will still be UMS 5.5G - I think we'll see quite a few people makin' some moula. Dude who won the Pick 5 Lotto using USLM3 certainly has enough cash to buy whatever subs he wants to run in the future, lol. Obviously, that result comes w/ a tag "results not typical," but who knows...maybe one day, they will be (typical).

Hi RTBoss,

FYI......I am female....not a "dude". It is understandable that you might make that mistake because it seems to me that most of the forum posters here are male. And yes, I will be purchasing many more of Shannon's subs as he rolls out the new ones. I am still on my last month of USLM3 and I will finish the run.

As I said before, my main goal with using USLM3 is manifesting more money, and my first sub-goal (of 2) under that was to win a Fantasy 5 jackpot. I only have 1 additional goal under that first sub-goal, that has not yet manifested. I have modified my goals slightly since achieving my win, but they are all directed to manifesting more money.....that is the singular focus for my using USLM3. I wanted to keep it as laser-focused as possible, and still do. I have other life goals, but right now I am choosing to direct all my energy from USLM3 to manifesting money. I don't know what others chose to do when selecting goals, but my choice was to make it 1 over-arching goal, with only 2 sub-goals.

I have used other subs (from other sub companies) in the past with limited results. I was initially a little hesitant to spend $115 on a sub. I spent a lot of time browsing the forums here, and I felt certain that Shannon's products were the best products out there. I then read Shannon's interview posted on this site, and I knew, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that they would work for me. As far as I am concerned now, I would NEVER buy a sub from any other producer ever again. To me that would be like throwing money away. So yes, I took that leap of faith, stuck with the program (still using it ) as directed, and will finish the 3 month block.

As far as the pricing, I can understand how $600 for a program seems expensive to some people, but I have to agree with Shannon that you get what you pay for. I am a person who always prefers quality over quantity, and I will wait until I can afford something rather than buy a cheap alternative.

I was initially doubting the program after I began using it, and posted those thoughts here. I was encouraged by several forum members to stick with it. So I view my initial skepticism as a form of resistance that I did overcome.

Also, remember that I have been working on winning a Fantasy 5 jackpot for many months and I have been diligently working on my system since May 2018. I am still using my system and looking for ways to improve my picks. I always try to learn from my past mistakes and I hope that my intuition will only get better and that I will continue to be "lucky ". But it is not just luck, I work on my system daily !

I hope that everyone using USLM3 (and those contemplating using it) will reach their goals. I read a lot of user journals and I see the growth, which has been very gratifying to read about.

[Hatman]

Hi Shannon, since UMS will be built by altering the script of USLM, will it then have the same luck component to it, but instead heavily focused on money?

[Choice]

I can't make high end stuff and then charge low or mid range prices and stay in business, it takes too long to make each one. It also devalues the time, energy, skill and expertise required to make one, and it kills my ability to make enough money to achieve my real goals, funding of which will require literally hundreds of millions of dollars.

WOW Shannon!!! That's one hell of a goal, what on earth would require such insane amounts of funding??!? are we building a spacecraft or something?! whatever that is I'm positive it's going to change the world as we know it!!!

[Nara]

I can't make high end stuff and then charge low or mid range prices and stay in business, it takes too long to make each one. It also devalues the time, energy, skill and expertise required to make one, and it kills my ability to make enough money to achieve my real goals, funding of which will require literally hundreds of millions of dollars.

WOW Shannon!!! That's one hell of a goal, what on earth would require such insane amounts of funding??!? are we building a spacecraft or something?! whatever that is I'm positive it's going to change the world as we know it!!!

No. @Shannon wants to use sub to create super-human race.