Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3

[Tigerismyspirit]

I wanted to let you know something. Yesterday while I was at the post office, I saw this very gorgeous young girl walk in through the door. I was blown away by her cuteness. I wanted to approach her really bad. I was writing the addresses on the envelope and she was done by then was walking out. I wanted to approach her as she walking by and there was nobody around. So, it was a perfect opportunity. But seeing her face I thought she was too young and I shut down and didn't utter a word. This not only happened to her but happens when I see a girl that is quite younger than I am. My subconscious makes irrational logic that I'm too old. The truth is I do want young girls. I like their playfulness and immaturity. I had a lot of fun with them in my PUA days and they are always down for adventures. I don't know how to get past this at this moment.

[Tesla]

Welp, I broke up with my girlfriend yesterday. She came over and picked up her things.

It is indeed what I wanted though- I feel like DMSI 3.3 helped contribute to the epiphany and push I needed to rip that band-aid off.

[dissonance]

https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Men-s...#pid214124

Just finished up what I believe to be the final revision of FRM 4.4. So unless something comes to me before I start building tomorrow, or something unexpectedly delays me... I will be building DMSI 3.3.1-D starting tomorrow.

I'm surprised your post got only one response and only got one like (mine) LOL. Did people glaze over this? Am I (besides 4Kingdoms) the only one stoked?? Anyways, status update on 3.3.1-D progress, Shannon?

[Shannon]

Hi Shannon

I am currently listening to USLM3 and also updating my journal. I was not clear if I should post my question here or on some other thread.

One of my goal on the sub is to go on a foreign training. I know that when we listen to the sub we should not listen to any other thing or sub.
I was wondering that for my goal
1. Can I visualize that goal with my eyes closed and in a relaxed state ?

Yes.

2. Can I use radionics for that goal ?

For radionics there are various software. You enter your desire / wish, choose the target, visualize for a second and start the software. Thats it.

As of yet, I see nothing to indicate that radionics actually works, so I can't say as I think it will have a negative impact.

[Shannon]

@Shannon

Great work!

Let me know when you have updated DMSI, I will get back on DMSI to test things out.

I have delayed the build by a day to work on adding another concept that came to me while I was sleeping last night. This should make the FRM 4.4 a lot more feature complete. It should be finished being developed and added by this evening, or tomorrow morning. Then 3.3.1 begins build.

Thats sooo cool Shannon!! I honestly wouldnt care of it took another two weeks to build or what have you,because I Know that FRM 4.4 will be up to hyper speed,jacked up n' ready to go...man this stuff is gonna da bomb!! super dooper Gary Copper!! Keith.

FRM 4.4 is intended to be a significant step up, but I also know that the final step isn't supposed to be right now. So we will be testing 4.4 for a while, and maybe I'll release something else (4.5+ before I build 5.0 of the FRM.

It will just depend on how things go.

[Shannon]

I wanted to let you know something. Yesterday while I was at the post office, I saw this very gorgeous young girl walk in through the door. I was blown away by her cuteness. I wanted to approach her really bad. I was writing the addresses on the envelope and she was done by then was walking out. I wanted to approach her as she walking by and there was nobody around. So, it was a perfect opportunity. But seeing her face I thought she was too young and I shut down and didn't utter a word. This not only happened to her but happens when I see a girl that is quite younger than I am. My subconscious makes irrational logic that I'm too old. The truth is I do want young girls. I like their playfulness and immaturity. I had a lot of fun with them in my PUA days and they are always down for adventures. I don't know how to get past this at this moment.

When 3.3.1 comes out, try that.

[Shannon]

https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Men-s...#pid214124

Just finished up what I believe to be the final revision of FRM 4.4. So unless something comes to me before I start building tomorrow, or something unexpectedly delays me... I will be building DMSI 3.3.1-D starting tomorrow.

I'm surprised your post got only one response and only got one like (mine) LOL. Did people glaze over this? Am I (besides 4Kingdoms) the only one stoked?? Anyways, status update on 3.3.1-D progress, Shannon?

I remembered something important last night while taking a shower that I wanted to add to 4.4, but for the life of me could not remember since when I was sick, when I was laying in bed bored senseless and thought of it. So I'm going to be trying to add that concept today.

At the same time, I feel mentally and physically exhausted. I only got 6 hours of sleep last night. But this should be the last update to 4.4 before I build 3.3.1. I may have to sleep before I get started, I feel like I'm about to drop.

[Shawn]

A quick question here. We are not supposed to manifest sex/relationships mit specific persons or have them as goal in USLM as it would take away their free will. But if someone find an person interesting for a relationship, could you try something like "I want the best possible relationship with X" and see what kind of relationship - if any - the universe delivers. Would it be safe to word it the way to prevent taking away their free will? Or do you have an idea how one can word it? The thought is just to manifest that kind of relationship with a person which would be possible without taking away their free will - or no relationship if that's not possible.

[Shannon]

A quick question here. We are not supposed to manifest sex/relationships mit specific persons or have them as goal in USLM as it would take away their free will. But if someone find an person interesting for a relationship, could you try something like "I want the best possible relationship with X" and see what kind of relationship - if any - the universe delivers. Would it be safe to word it the way to prevent taking away their free will? Or do you have an idea how one can word it? The thought is just to manifest that kind of relationship with a person which would be possible without taking away their free will - or no relationship if that's not possible.

If you were to use that wording - "My goal is to have the best possible relationship with X." - then you are not specifying what type of relationship; only that it be the best it can be.

So if X has no romantic or sexual feelings for you, such a request would result in a great friendship, most likely. You are leaving the type of relationship up to X and the universe. It doesn't interfere with that person's free will or life or karma, because the best possible relationship is going to fit whatever "is" for that person and for you. There is no influencing of or taking away freedom of will or freedom of choice.

[THolt]

A quick question here. We are not supposed to manifest sex/relationships mit specific persons or have them as goal in USLM as it would take away their free will. But if someone find an person interesting for a relationship, could you try something like "I want the best possible relationship with X" and see what kind of relationship - if any - the universe delivers. Would it be safe to word it the way to prevent taking away their free will? Or do you have an idea how one can word it? The thought is just to manifest that kind of relationship with a person which would be possible without taking away their free will - or no relationship if that's not possible.

If you were to use that wording - "My goal is to have the best possible relationship with X." - then you are not specifying what type of relationship; only that it be the best it can be.

So if X has no romantic or sexual feelings for you, such a request would result in a great friendship, most likely. You are leaving the type of relationship up to X and the universe. It doesn't interfere with that person's free will or life or karma, because the best possible relationship is going to fit whatever "is" for that person and for you. There is no influencing of or taking away freedom of will or freedom of choice.

I had the same concern as well. There are certain people with whom I want to improve my friendship with but I want to make sure I am not violating anyones free will in that regard.

Thanks for the answer.

[rayrocanaldo]

A quick question here. We are not supposed to manifest sex/relationships mit specific persons or have them as goal in USLM as it would take away their free will. But if someone find an person interesting for a relationship, could you try something like "I want the best possible relationship with X" and see what kind of relationship - if any - the universe delivers. Would it be safe to word it the way to prevent taking away their free will? Or do you have an idea how one can word it? The thought is just to manifest that kind of relationship with a person which would be possible without taking away their free will - or no relationship if that's not possible.

If you were to use that wording - "My goal is to have the best possible relationship with X." - then you are not specifying what type of relationship; only that it be the best it can be.

So if X has no romantic or sexual feelings for you, such a request would result in a great friendship, most likely. You are leaving the type of relationship up to X and the universe. It doesn't interfere with that person's free will or life or karma, because the best possible relationship is going to fit whatever "is" for that person and for you. There is no influencing of or taking away freedom of will or freedom of choice.

How can people rape, kill, injure, wound, steal from, hurt( physically), destroy, make sick, enslave, betray, gossip about, etc...people and yet be alive and well. The person has interfered with their victim's will by killing, enslaving, injuring, etc...them. They did in a very real way. Its realer than a thought. A thought is only as real as it is manifested.
It's MUCH worse to do something like this on a physical level than to send someone ( consciously) your desire for friendship or sex or believe a specific person loves you.

[Shannon]

A quick question here. We are not supposed to manifest sex/relationships mit specific persons or have them as goal in USLM as it would take away their free will. But if someone find an person interesting for a relationship, could you try something like "I want the best possible relationship with X" and see what kind of relationship - if any - the universe delivers. Would it be safe to word it the way to prevent taking away their free will? Or do you have an idea how one can word it? The thought is just to manifest that kind of relationship with a person which would be possible without taking away their free will - or no relationship if that's not possible.

If you were to use that wording - "My goal is to have the best possible relationship with X." - then you are not specifying what type of relationship; only that it be the best it can be.

So if X has no romantic or sexual feelings for you, such a request would result in a great friendship, most likely. You are leaving the type of relationship up to X and the universe. It doesn't interfere with that person's free will or life or karma, because the best possible relationship is going to fit whatever "is" for that person and for you. There is no influencing of or taking away freedom of will or freedom of choice.

How can people rape, kill, injure, wound, steal from, hurt( physically), destroy, make sick, enslave, betray, gossip about, etc...people and yet be alive and well. The person has interfered with their victim's will by killing, enslaving, injuring, etc...them. They did in a very real way. Its realer than a thought. A thought is only as real as it is manifested.
It's MUCH worse to do something like this on a physical level than to send someone ( consciously) your desire for friendship or sex or believe a specific person loves you.

Which is worse, Ray? Stabbing someone with a knife, or stabbing them with your words? Most people would assume a knife is worse, but given the right words, the right delivery and the right pair of participants, words can do as much or more damage.

Thoughts are not "only as real as manifested", and in fact that is self evident by virtue of the fact that were that thought "not real" until it was manifest, it could not manifest!

Furthermore, thought alone isn't what we are talking about here. Thought alone isn't effective for manifestation, it requires other factors as well. And just because the damage done is not physical or obvious does not mean it was not done, not damage, not relevant or without consequences.

I know people who get away with violence against others all the time because they are committing mental and emotional violence. The common person does not recognize those things as existing, and has no real idea what damage they do. But if they did no damage, do you suppose that I would have a job?

Just because it's not obvious doesn't mean it's not there.

[rayrocanaldo]

A quick question here. We are not supposed to manifest sex/relationships mit specific persons or have them as goal in USLM as it would take away their free will. But if someone find an person interesting for a relationship, could you try something like "I want the best possible relationship with X" and see what kind of relationship - if any - the universe delivers. Would it be safe to word it the way to prevent taking away their free will? Or do you have an idea how one can word it? The thought is just to manifest that kind of relationship with a person which would be possible without taking away their free will - or no relationship if that's not possible.

If you were to use that wording - "My goal is to have the best possible relationship with X." - then you are not specifying what type of relationship; only that it be the best it can be.

So if X has no romantic or sexual feelings for you, such a request would result in a great friendship, most likely. You are leaving the type of relationship up to X and the universe. It doesn't interfere with that person's free will or life or karma, because the best possible relationship is going to fit whatever "is" for that person and for you. There is no influencing of or taking away freedom of will or freedom of choice.

How can people rape, kill, injure, wound, steal from, hurt( physically), destroy, make sick, enslave, betray, gossip about, etc...people and yet be alive and well. The person has interfered with their victim's will by killing, enslaving, injuring, etc...them. They did in a very real way. Its realer than a thought. A thought is only as real as it is manifested.
It's MUCH worse to do something like this on a physical level than to send someone ( consciously) your desire for friendship or sex or believe a specific person loves you.

Which is worse, Ray? Stabbing someone with a knife, or stabbing them with your words? Most people would assume a knife is worse, but given the right words, the right delivery and the right pair of participants, words can do as much or more damage.

Thoughts are not "only as real as manifested", and in fact that is self evident by virtue of the fact that were that thought "not real" until it was manifest, it could not manifest!

Furthermore, thought alone isn't what we are talking about here. Thought alone isn't effective for manifestation, it requires other factors as well. And just because the damage done is not physical or obvious does not mean it was not done, not damage, not relevant or without consequences.

I know people who get away with violence against others all the time because they are committing mental and emotional violence. The common person does not recognize those things as existing, and has no real idea what damage they do. But if they did no damage, do you suppose that I would have a job?

Just because it's not obvious doesn't mean it's not there.

Dont misunderstand my words. I believe in the law of attraction. I know it is real but...

The law of attraction states that what we think we become. Yet they( coaches, mentors, etc...)give us affirmations to say in front of the mirror, to write down endless affirmations, to keep repeating them during the day, etc...To think means to think espcially by focus. Such as to consider, to make conclusions, to muse about, to ponder, to form ideas, to imagine, etc...in our minds not verbally. Then the coaches tell us, we must believe we already have what we want. But we got to know what we WANT. By definition, we have to want something yet at the same time not want it instead we need to believe it. Ah, the confusion abounds. Then they tell us, we cant take action, we need to wait for inspired action yet they fail to notice people like Thomas edision who failed 1000x before succeeding. The ultimate reason they tell us not to take action is because they think we will fail. So by definition, if we wait for inspired action we will feel amazing letting us know we will succeed. Then they tell us we need to act as if we already have it. But what happens if you want a girlfriend? Do, we have to act like we left her home when we go out because we couldnt possibly act as if we are with our girlfriend at the mall? People would look at us strange? When we watch tv, we leave a special seat next to ourselves for our girl? If that's too much perhaps we should have body language like we already have a girl. But seriously, how many types of body languages exist? And what is this " I have a girlfriend" body language?
Then they tell us we need to feel like we already got what we want yet we have never experienced it once in our lives.
What happens if your mother comes around and asks you if you have a girlfriend? Are you supposed to say " Of course, I have her. I can feel it, I do." Even the most hardcore law of attraction fan would see there is something wrong in what you are saying.
They say we cannot ask " How", we must always believe it will happen. Yet they fail to notice how businesses, ask themselves how everyday. They find ideas and then develop them. The idea may have potential in the beginning but it gets better the more they see how it performs in the real world. Then they say, we cannot want or need something because somehow the universe will not give it to us. We are told to ignore the future. We are told that our negativity is blocking manifestation and to avoid it all cost and that we must clear it all before we can successfully manifest. We are told that if we want women, we need to have great beliefs and great energies. But if we have great energy, we are exuding powerful charisma without any physical ability such as flirting, social skills, being happy, fun, etc...They then tell us that by doing all this we will trick our brains into believing we have what we want as of our brains isn't aware of what we are doing and that we are visualizing something not living it. And there is more...

Now no coach has ever said it like that but that's what it is. Thats the state of affair of the law of attraction community as of 2019. Once again I believe in LOA. I do believe it like I wrote above.

[Shannon]

A quick question here. We are not supposed to manifest sex/relationships mit specific persons or have them as goal in USLM as it would take away their free will. But if someone find an person interesting for a relationship, could you try something like "I want the best possible relationship with X" and see what kind of relationship - if any - the universe delivers. Would it be safe to word it the way to prevent taking away their free will? Or do you have an idea how one can word it? The thought is just to manifest that kind of relationship with a person which would be possible without taking away their free will - or no relationship if that's not possible.

If you were to use that wording - "My goal is to have the best possible relationship with X." - then you are not specifying what type of relationship; only that it be the best it can be.

So if X has no romantic or sexual feelings for you, such a request would result in a great friendship, most likely. You are leaving the type of relationship up to X and the universe. It doesn't interfere with that person's free will or life or karma, because the best possible relationship is going to fit whatever "is" for that person and for you. There is no influencing of or taking away freedom of will or freedom of choice.

How can people rape, kill, injure, wound, steal from, hurt( physically), destroy, make sick, enslave, betray, gossip about, etc...people and yet be alive and well. The person has interfered with their victim's will by killing, enslaving, injuring, etc...them. They did in a very real way. Its realer than a thought. A thought is only as real as it is manifested.
It's MUCH worse to do something like this on a physical level than to send someone ( consciously) your desire for friendship or sex or believe a specific person loves you.

Which is worse, Ray? Stabbing someone with a knife, or stabbing them with your words? Most people would assume a knife is worse, but given the right words, the right delivery and the right pair of participants, words can do as much or more damage.

Thoughts are not "only as real as manifested", and in fact that is self evident by virtue of the fact that were that thought "not real" until it was manifest, it could not manifest!

Furthermore, thought alone isn't what we are talking about here. Thought alone isn't effective for manifestation, it requires other factors as well. And just because the damage done is not physical or obvious does not mean it was not done, not damage, not relevant or without consequences.

I know people who get away with violence against others all the time because they are committing mental and emotional violence. The common person does not recognize those things as existing, and has no real idea what damage they do. But if they did no damage, do you suppose that I would have a job?

Just because it's not obvious doesn't mean it's not there.

The law of attraction states that what we think we become. Yet they( coaches, mentors, etc...)give us affirmations to say in front of the mirror, to write down endless affirmations, to keep repeating them during the day, etc...To think means to think. Such as to consider, to make conclusions, to muse about, to ponder, etc...in our minds not verbally. Then the coaches tell us, we must believe we already have what we want. But we got to know what we WANT. By definition, we have to want something yet not want it instead we need to believe it. Ah, the confusion abounds. Then they tell us, we cant take action, we need to wait for inspired action yet they fail to notice people like Thomas edision who failed 1000x before succeeding. The ultimate reason they tell us not to take action is because they think we will fail. So by definition, if we wait for inspired action we will feel amazing letting us know we will succeed. Then they tell us we need to act as if we already have it. But what happens if you want a girlfriend. You have to act like you left her home when you go out because you couldnt possibly act as if you are with your girlfriend at the mall. When you watch tv, you leave a special seat next to you for your girl? If that's too much perhaps you should have body language like you already have a girl. But seriously how many types of body languages exist?
Then they tell us we need to feel like we already got what we want yet we have never experienced it once in our lives.
What happens if your mother comes around and asks you if you have a girlfriend? Are you supposed to say " Of course, I have her. I can feel it, I do." Even the most hardcore law of attraction fan would see there is something wrong in what you are saying.
They say we cannot ask " How", we must always believe it will happen. We cannot want or need something because somehow the universe will not give it to us. We have told to ignore the future. We are told that our negativity is blocking manifestation and to avoid it all cost and that we must clear it all before we can successfully manifest. And there is more...

Now no coach has ever said it like that but that's what it is. Thats the state of affair of the law of attraction community as of 2019.

Ray, just because you don't understand what the Law of Attraction, and the other laws are saying, or how to use them, doesn't make me wrong. And what you are arguing has nothing to do with the seminal point, which is... never take away the free will or freedom of choice of another person using energy manipulation or manifestation.

However...

The LOA is easy to use. There are only really four things you need: specific knowledge of what you want, sufficient focus, sufficient energy and sufficient emotional involvement. The biggest problems people have is that they are afraid of the process. They disrupt their own success (presuming they did the rest right) by trying too hard to control the outcome consciously.

The concept is, you already have whatever it is you want in some possible future. You just have to focus on that future to experience it, and you do that by attuning to it, which is done by experiencing the desired outcome as already being obtained. You automatically "vibrate" at the frequency that results in that outcome when you do that because it is the only outcome that matches that tuning. So you have to in effect project yourself into that future by experiencing it as having already happened in your mind and imagination, and experiencing the emotional states and especially gratitude that having that outcome brings.

I have tried to explain this to you in the past.