Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3

[Shannon]

Shannon, what if to add some kind of "sandbox" or "virtual space" module for script execution in 3.3? What I mean is to direct subconscious to create some "safe space" for it to see/hear/feel that the script is safe enough to execute. I hope that I described it alright. You know that subc is creative enough to generate creative ways to resist and direct push is useless - subc is smarter. But if we show it (subc) that the script execution is safe, for example, by manifesting the situations then subc can see that its safe - it can give it a try, right? Learning how to effectively to execute the script.

The issue with that is the irrationality of the subconscious. I tried that, and it fails. The subconscious is not rational or logical enough for it to work. And, every time you execute and the world doesn't implode, you show the subconscious it's safe to execute. Yet it still tries to resist based on the same irrational fears it had before executing.

And another thoughts. I know that your scripting is full of trade secrets so its unknown to anybody else except you so I would like to ask you: is there any SECONDARY GAINS solutions in DMSI script? Please, don't say that optimus engine is "doing everything it must to do" because for subc secondary gains are not an issue at all for subc. I consulted one client who got many secondary gains not having sexual relationship with women but his mental consciousness was very eager to have one. When we cleared that secondary gains (and that was hard ones, indeed) he finally manifested girl for relationship and sex. So, once again, is were any decent work with secondary gains in DMSI?

I'm not sure we are understanding eachother when you say secondary gains, but the majority of the script is aimed at accomplishing the things that need to be accomplished in order to achieve the primary goal.

Guys, here is my good little technique to clear secondary gains, which I created for my clients to deal with secondary gains (surface work not deep but...) is to write down "100 benefits NOT reaching the goals for DMSI". 100 benefits you gain if you are not executing the script of DMSI. Example: "If I don't get the DMSI to work for me then I don't need to spend money to girls....If I don't get the DMSI to for me then no girls will leave me, because I don't have any" something like that.

Now I am completely confused about what you mean by secondary gains. It seems you are referring to the benefits people get from not executing, but secondary gains from DMSI would be something they get from the program that is not the primary goal, if they execute the script.

[Shannon]

Anyways I am realizing a pattern here
And here it goes,
Day 1: running DMSI 3.2 b US two loops with head phone
Day 1: tiredness whole day
Day 2: off DMSI _ extreme frustration
Day 3: off DMSI - normal feeling
Day 4: off DMSI - great execution plus morphine drip after workout with relaxing sensation on chest

Tomorrow is day 5, should I run 2 loops of US b again or observe what's going to happen next with the initial run 4 days ago?

Okay, so you are running two loops and then spending three days off the program before you execute. That is one hell of a lot of internal resistance there buddy.

It's also a hell of a lot of time wasted. Why not see what happens with more loops and less time off?

[Dmitry]

Shannon, what if to add some kind of "sandbox" or "virtual space" module for script execution in 3.3? What I mean is to direct subconscious to create some "safe space" for it to see/hear/feel that the script is safe enough to execute. I hope that I described it alright. You know that subc is creative enough to generate creative ways to resist and direct push is useless - subc is smarter. But if we show it (subc) that the script execution is safe, for example, by manifesting the situations then subc can see that its safe - it can give it a try, right? Learning how to effectively to execute the script.

The issue with that is the irrationality of the subconscious. I tried that, and it fails. The subconscious is not rational or logical enough for it to work. And, every time you execute and the world doesn't implode, you show the subconscious it's safe to execute. Yet it still tries to resist based on the same irrational fears it had before executing.

And another thoughts. I know that your scripting is full of trade secrets so its unknown to anybody else except you so I would like to ask you: is there any SECONDARY GAINS solutions in DMSI script? Please, don't say that optimus engine is "doing everything it must to do" because for subc secondary gains are not an issue at all for subc. I consulted one client who got many secondary gains not having sexual relationship with women but his mental consciousness was very eager to have one. When we cleared that secondary gains (and that was hard ones, indeed) he finally manifested girl for relationship and sex. So, once again, is were any decent work with secondary gains in DMSI?

I'm not sure we are understanding eachother when you say secondary gains, but the majority of the script is aimed at accomplishing the things that need to be accomplished in order to achieve the primary goal.

Guys, here is my good little technique to clear secondary gains, which I created for my clients to deal with secondary gains (surface work not deep but...) is to write down "100 benefits NOT reaching the goals for DMSI". 100 benefits you gain if you are not executing the script of DMSI. Example: "If I don't get the DMSI to work for me then I don't need to spend money to girls....If I don't get the DMSI to for me then no girls will leave me, because I don't have any" something like that.

Now I am completely confused about what you mean by secondary gains. It seems you are referring to the benefits people get from not executing, but secondary gains from DMSI would be something they get from the program that is not the primary goal, if they execute the script.

By secondary gains I mean the benefits that subc get when NOT executing the DMSI script. I'l try to explain it more. For example, an illness. For example, cancer. Its horrible thing but the person can get some hidden benefits from having that illness. For example attention from relatives. Or more freedom. So, for our mind - cancer is bad BUT subc got some benefits from it.

So, my point is: if guys are resisting DMSI script because they can lose some benefits from there current state (i.e. not executing the script). Of course, they can say that DMSI is bad and not working but if they LOSE something valuable if they execute, then they don't have any reasons to execute at all. It can be in form of fear or something but the main reason can be: "if I execute DMSI properly then I will lose the benefits from my current state and its not an option".

When I started to date 4 or 5 girl at the same period I'v got: jealosy from girls, spending more time for girls, needed more money, needed more emotional energy, needed more physical energy. It was all consuming but I was ready for that, so my subc manifested 4-5 girls quite easily.

Ps. sorry for my english

[samba99]

Anyways I am realizing a pattern here
And here it goes,
Day 1: running DMSI 3.2 b US two loops with head phone
Day 1: tiredness whole day
Day 2: off DMSI _ extreme frustration
Day 3: off DMSI - normal feeling
Day 4: off DMSI - great execution plus morphine drip after workout with relaxing sensation on chest

Tomorrow is day 5, should I run 2 loops of US b again or observe what's going to happen next with the initial run 4 days ago?

Okay, so you are running two loops and then spending three days off the program before you execute. That is one hell of a lot of internal resistance there buddy.

It's also a hell of a lot of time wasted. Why not see what happens with more loops and less time off?

Yes and it was very nice to see the execution taking place in a close minded society.

I'll try doing 3 loops a day of US B with headphone.
Anyone knows an app on Android that allows you to choose the number of rep?

[Shawn]

Anyone knows an app on Android that allows you to choose the number of rep?

No, but why don't you simply create a playlist and put the track three times on that playlist.

[Shannon]

Anyways I am realizing a pattern here
And here it goes,
Day 1: running DMSI 3.2 b US two loops with head phone
Day 1: tiredness whole day
Day 2: off DMSI _ extreme frustration
Day 3: off DMSI - normal feeling
Day 4: off DMSI - great execution plus morphine drip after workout with relaxing sensation on chest

Tomorrow is day 5, should I run 2 loops of US b again or observe what's going to happen next with the initial run 4 days ago?

Okay, so you are running two loops and then spending three days off the program before you execute. That is one hell of a lot of internal resistance there buddy.

It's also a hell of a lot of time wasted. Why not see what happens with more loops and less time off?

Yes and it was very nice to see the execution taking place in a close minded society.

I'll try doing 3 loops a day of US B with headphone.
Anyone knows an app on Android that allows you to choose the number of rep?

My recommendation would be to start doing 7 loops a day of A side, and follow the standard secondary ASRB. That seems to be breaking through for a lot of the more resistant users. And why you would be doing B side when you resist like that is beyond me.

[Leo1990]

@Shannon

I have a question that I posted in my daily Journal, maybe you could look into this?:

My question is: does lucid dreaming interfere with the program? I think this falls under the category mind shifting. I also practiced Astral Projection. Also a mind shifting state... Can I still practice this or should I completely stop and wait until the program is over? I did not achieved a lucid dream or astral projection during the program. But I was practicing it before I started this program on monday june 18th.

Could somebody give me advice? Shannon perhaps? I quit meditating because of the mind shifting thing I want to follow the exact instructions. No substance abuse, no cigarettes, no alcohol, just me and my program. 1 loop per day.

Thanks in advance !

Do you have any good information on lucid dreaming? I bought some herbs that should help and I'd like to use them.

[thor2014]

Day 29 and 30 DMSI A 7 Loops

Spent the night with barrister i met in the coffee shop .

On the way home on the train. A girl turned to me from the other side of the carriage locked eyes with me smiled. Then turned away. As she got off I got off too and caught up with her stopped her and began chatting to her. She began smiling and giggling. We swapped numbers then 30 minutes later we began swapping messages over whatsapp.

The next day I pinged her to ask if she was up for a drink. She replied with "Hey Thor I have to tell you I am a lesbian and have a girlfriend". This was strange ??. I mean she was a hot spanish girl in her mid 20s.

Shannon does DMSI attract lesbian girls ?. Whats going on here ?

[SargeMaximus]

Day 29 and 30 DMSI A 7 Loops

Spent the night with barrister i met in the coffee shop .

On the way home on the train. A girl turned to me from the other side of the carriage locked eyes with me smiled. Then turned away. As she got off I got off too and caught up with her stopped her and began chatting to her. She began smiling and giggling. We swapped numbers then 30 minutes later we began swapping messages over whatsapp.

The next day I pinged her to ask if she was up for a drink. She replied with "Hey Thor I have to tell you I am a lesbian and have a girlfriend". This was strange ??. I mean she was a hot spanish girl in her mid 20s.

Shannon does DMSI attract lesbian girls ?. Whats going on here ?

Nice! Did you have sex with the barrister?

[thor2014]

Day 29 and 30 DMSI A 7 Loops

Spent the night with barrister i met in the coffee shop .

On the way home on the train. A girl turned to me from the other side of the carriage locked eyes with me smiled. Then turned away. As she got off I got off too and caught up with her stopped her and began chatting to her. She began smiling and giggling. We swapped numbers then 30 minutes later we began swapping messages over whatsapp.

The next day I pinged her to ask if she was up for a drink. She replied with "Hey Thor I have to tell you I am a lesbian and have a girlfriend". This was strange ??. I mean she was a hot spanish girl in her mid 20s.

Shannon does DMSI attract lesbian girls ?. Whats going on here ?

Nice! Did you have sex with the barrister?

Yes i did

[Fluffy]

Day 29 and 30 DMSI A 7 Loops

Spent the night with barrister i met in the coffee shop .

On the way home on the train. A girl turned to me from the other side of the carriage locked eyes with me smiled. Then turned away. As she got off I got off too and caught up with her stopped her and began chatting to her. She began smiling and giggling. We swapped numbers then 30 minutes later we began swapping messages over whatsapp.

The next day I pinged her to ask if she was up for a drink. She replied with "Hey Thor I have to tell you I am a lesbian and have a girlfriend". This was strange ??. I mean she was a hot spanish girl in her mid 20s.

Shannon does DMSI attract lesbian girls ?. Whats going on here ?

Nice! Did you have sex with the barrister?

No, he played sleepovers.



That is Thor with the pink bandanna.

[DarkPlouf]

@Shannon

I have a question that I posted in my daily Journal, maybe you could look into this?:

My question is: does lucid dreaming interfere with the program? I think this falls under the category mind shifting. I also practiced Astral Projection. Also a mind shifting state... Can I still practice this or should I completely stop and wait until the program is over? I did not achieved a lucid dream or astral projection during the program. But I was practicing it before I started this program on monday june 18th.

Could somebody give me advice? Shannon perhaps? I quit meditating because of the mind shifting thing I want to follow the exact instructions. No substance abuse, no cigarettes, no alcohol, just me and my program. 1 loop per day.

Thanks in advance !

Do you have any good information on lucid dreaming? I bought some herbs that should help and I'd like to use them.

I don't know about herbs but you can find many interesting resources online to help with LDs.
There's even a reasearch center on OBE (http://research.obe4u.com/) that published a book called The Phase. It's a practical book with many samples of experiments run. The book is free and the techniques they use make sense. But it doesn't seem they are still active...The book was published in 2014.
There's also two very popular LDs forums with hundreds of techniques and tricks.

[Shannon]

@Shannon

I have a question that I posted in my daily Journal, maybe you could look into this?:

My question is: does lucid dreaming interfere with the program? I think this falls under the category mind shifting. I also practiced Astral Projection. Also a mind shifting state... Can I still practice this or should I completely stop and wait until the program is over? I did not achieved a lucid dream or astral projection during the program. But I was practicing it before I started this program on monday june 18th.

Could somebody give me advice? Shannon perhaps? I quit meditating because of the mind shifting thing I want to follow the exact instructions. No substance abuse, no cigarettes, no alcohol, just me and my program. 1 loop per day.

Thanks in advance !

Do you have any good information on lucid dreaming? I bought some herbs that should help and I'd like to use them.

Herbs will be causing chemical based state shifting.

I don't think anything I know about lucid dreaming is going to interest you. It hasn't been a major focus of study for me.

[Shannon]

Day 29 and 30 DMSI A 7 Loops

Spent the night with barrister i met in the coffee shop .

On the way home on the train. A girl turned to me from the other side of the carriage locked eyes with me smiled. Then turned away. As she got off I got off too and caught up with her stopped her and began chatting to her. She began smiling and giggling. We swapped numbers then 30 minutes later we began swapping messages over whatsapp.

The next day I pinged her to ask if she was up for a drink. She replied with "Hey Thor I have to tell you I am a lesbian and have a girlfriend". This was strange ??. I mean she was a hot spanish girl in her mid 20s.

Shannon does DMSI attract lesbian girls ?. Whats going on here ?

DMSI attracts...

people of the gender you find sexually attractive...

who you find sexually attractive...

and the SRS is very powerful.

It's not going to change someone's gender preference. They will not "switch sides". But they will be positively influenced to find you more attractive. If you affect someone who is not interested in your gender sexually, it can give them something to think about, though. That is what likely happened here.

Congrats on your success with the barrister.