Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3

[Shannon]

Would using the awakener or the sleep aid affect DMSI?

If you use it as a sleep induction aid, it will not. If you use it as a sleep optimizer, there is a chance it will, but I don't think it should be a big deal as long as you're not using it and resisting it while you do.

What about 5G programs like AM6 WM2 SM3? it is ok to use the sleep induction aid with them?

Sleep Aid 5G was one of the first efforts I ever made to create state shifting in a sub. It is aimed at being "Instant On/Instant off" and as such the effects wear off relatively quickly when you stop using it.

If you use it as a sleep induction aid, it's going to put you to sleep. You won't be trying to execute while you're trying to fall asleep regardless, when it comes to state shifting. The same is true for when you are sleeping.

If, on the other hand, you were to use it while you were trying to execute and be awake... problem.

[Shannon]

Alright boys. I’ll throw this out to who ever have friends and/ or is in big social circles and using DMSI.

Do not say no one warned you. First of all make sure you read the disclaimer. Second, when you execute the sub you will attract your friends gfs and wives. They will be attracted to you and they will be obvious about their sexual interest.

So please act responsibly if you don’t want to go into troubles

Seeing how attraction affects girls lately much more than I have in my entire life in just a month I can say that attraction isn't you think it is especially when girls are concerned.

I haven't use the last DMSI version though but I have seen literally at least 40 women if not more showing very obvious interest repeatedly, even my blind male friends noticed it. Out of all that attraction and some that I even spoke to and ask for numbers none actually did anything about it some even batlantly rejected me after I showed interest in them some ran away, some couldn't even talk (shaking heavily)

Attraction isn't the portal to easy sex on a daily basis if you don't act on it and even if you act on it actually, at least in my experience from where I live. It seems to me that you have to be very confident and you have to keep acting until she is completely safe to say yes to your request, not just once but multiples times until she knows for sure everything is completely safe. And even if it is completely safe and you spend 7 days with a girl some might not even admit that they are attracted or interested in you. It seems for most girls to say yes to an invitation is as hard as for a guy to ask a girl out. Most guy need to be completely drunk to ask a girl out or talk to one, it seems for girls to answer to a guy request positively is as hard for them.

I'm actually starting to doubt more profoundly that it is possible to make the girl act on their sexual interest unless that girl is confident to begin with and even if she is confident it might not be enough.

I'm experiencing very similar.

The mass attraction is off the roof. So many stares in a day. Lots of them even have this orgasmic look on their face. It's clear they are turned on by my aura/energy.

In interactions, some don't go anywhere. I approached this hottie who looked at me twice. She has a bf so didn't wanna take our interaction further, which is fair enough lol.

But there were two other girls who I'm pretty sure were very single, and were interested in the moment, and they also suggested themselves we should hang out again. Yet afterwards they'd flake and I never saw them again.

I kinda agree the attraction needs something more for sex to happen. Perhaps more comfort or something. Or I gotta be more persistent on my part.

Or you could just be seeing the effects of an unbalanced, unfinished DMSI and assuming that is all there is... I know you guys are dying to believe that man must initiate, but really, that's not true. And when we get finished, you will see for yourself.

[Shannon]

Shannon,

I have 2 questions. Will the Brainwave Entrainment set take me to "Ultra Depth"?

It will take you below the threshhold of consciousness, in certain modules.

Will you do a FF sub on Happiness and Joy or Gratitude and Appreciation ?

Thanks for your time.

Possibly.

[Shannon]

DMSI gets girls really attracted but most don't go further. Maybe it needs a wall for the affected to help them excute the natural seduction module better?

Shannon you made a major improvement in the program with this last version and almost a month into can be summed up into massive attraction, awesome self effects, almost no girls initiating anything on their on. Pretty much if going anywhere past the attraction level I have to make it go some where In which I feel zero desire to do. Stale mate.

As stated before... this version was not adjusting the aura or the snipers, because I was on a deadline, and you guys are so intent on refusing to execute.

Shannon,

I am guessing this won't be different for DMSI 3.2A, since it will be like the B version out already plus the H/C, right?

The H&C will make the effects different. Similar to how 3.1 did, but this should be significantly more profound.

[wolverine_i_am]

Or you could just be seeing the effects of an unbalanced, unfinished DMSI and assuming that is all there is... I know you guys are dying to believe that man must initiate, but really, that's not true. And when we get finished, you will see for yourself.

Oh yeah, I definitely agree now it is a strong possibility that it will be achieved, since we've already seen it in other guys reports. The guys barely doing anything, and the girls making it so easy for sex to happen.

I'm not experiencing execution to that extent, YET, which is why I'm still needing to approach a girl, or physically escalate, otherwise it wouldn't go anywhere. I know this because all the girls staring at me never make any moves, or the ones I'm chatting to never push it to a sexual level.

But I definitely believe the newer versions to come will see a higher percentage of guys getting chased by women, myself included.

[Ymiraku]

Or you could just be seeing the effects of an unbalanced, unfinished DMSI and assuming that is all there is... I know you guys are dying to believe that man must initiate, but really, that's not true. And when we get finished, you will see for yourself.

Problem is almost every resource out there has brainwashed us into thinking that men must take the lead. Men must lead the women to sex. Men must seduce. Men must take initiative and approach. No doubt most women have been brainwashed into believing this also and is why most take absolutely no action.

But when you say initiate do you mean initiate an interaction or initiate seduction? In that sense is actually opening an interaction with a random girl against the goals of the program?

[wolverine_i_am]

In that sense is actually opening an interaction with a random girl against the goals of the program?

Why would it be 'against' the goals of the program? Yeah when you're fully executing, a girl can approach you (perhaps many girls on a frequent basis). But you can also decide to approach other girls when you want to. I don't see how it would conflict?

[JackOfHearts]

Alright boys. I’ll throw this out to who ever have friends and/ or is in big social circles and using DMSI.

Do not say no one warned you. First of all make sure you read the disclaimer. Second, when you execute the sub you will attract your friends gfs and wives. They will be attracted to you and they will be obvious about their sexual interest.

So please act responsibly if you don’t want to go into troubles

Seeing how attraction affects girls lately much more than I have in my entire life in just a month I can say that attraction isn't you think it is especially when girls are concerned.

I haven't use the last DMSI version though but I have seen literally at least 40 women if not more showing very obvious interest repeatedly, even my blind male friends noticed it. Out of all that attraction and some that I even spoke to and ask for numbers none actually did anything about it some even batlantly rejected me after I showed interest in them some ran away, some couldn't even talk (shaking heavily)

Attraction isn't the portal to easy sex on a daily basis if you don't act on it and even if you act on it actually, at least in my experience from where I live. It seems to me that you have to be very confident and you have to keep acting until she is completely safe to say yes to your request, not just once but multiples times until she knows for sure everything is completely safe. And even if it is completely safe and you spend 7 days with a girl some might not even admit that they are attracted or interested in you. It seems for most girls to say yes to an invitation is as hard as for a guy to ask a girl out. Most guy need to be completely drunk to ask a girl out or talk to one, it seems for girls to answer to a guy request positively is as hard for them.

I'm actually starting to doubt more profoundly that it is possible to make the girl act on their sexual interest unless that girl is confident to begin with and even if she is confident it might not be enough.

I'm experiencing very similar.

The mass attraction is off the roof. So many stares in a day. Lots of them even have this orgasmic look on their face. It's clear they are turned on by my aura/energy.

In interactions, some don't go anywhere. I approached this hottie who looked at me twice. She has a bf so didn't wanna take our interaction further, which is fair enough lol.

But there were two other girls who I'm pretty sure were very single, and were interested in the moment, and they also suggested themselves we should hang out again. Yet afterwards they'd flake and I never saw them again.

I kinda agree the attraction needs something more for sex to happen. Perhaps more comfort or something. Or I gotta be more persistent on my part.

Or you could just be seeing the effects of an unbalanced, unfinished DMSI and assuming that is all there is... I know you guys are dying to believe that man must initiate, but really, that's not true. And when we get finished, you will see for yourself.

Must I don't think so but the amount of girls able to initiate a conversation on their own is very low, sex even lower. So I would say it's out of character or out of the norm for a girl to initiate. I don't think it's impossible for them to initiate as I have seen it.

Actually I may not have explained myself properly above.

Girls usually don't initiate directly and straightforwardly, when they do initiate a conversation like most guys they will pretend they aren't doing it because they want you. I have heard the excuse that they know me from somewhere at least 5 times this month when they initiated conversations with me.
I think it's easier for them to initiate as long as you don't reciprocate the interest in them but once you do it seems harder for them.
So if I look at it closely what I have seen from their perspective isn't really them initiating but having the intent to make me initiate so I show my interest and when I show interest they go crazy and run
To their perspective they can pretend they weren't interested at all, they thought they knew me, it was mistake I guess complete denial.

A truly initiating girl would say something like " You look sexy, let's go grab a beer and talk or let's go somewhere to f**k"

I'm going to try that next time on them, maybe the rate would higher than just talking to them

[firsthelix]

Alright boys. I’ll throw this out to who ever have friends and/ or is in big social circles and using DMSI.

Do not say no one warned you. First of all make sure you read the disclaimer. Second, when you execute the sub you will attract your friends gfs and wives. They will be attracted to you and they will be obvious about their sexual interest.

So please act responsibly if you don’t want to go into troubles

Seeing how attraction affects girls lately much more than I have in my entire life in just a month I can say that attraction isn't you think it is especially when girls are concerned.

I haven't use the last DMSI version though but I have seen literally at least 40 women if not more showing very obvious interest repeatedly, even my blind male friends noticed it. Out of all that attraction and some that I even spoke to and ask for numbers none actually did anything about it some even batlantly rejected me after I showed interest in them some ran away, some couldn't even talk (shaking heavily)

Attraction isn't the portal to easy sex on a daily basis if you don't act on it and even if you act on it actually, at least in my experience from where I live. It seems to me that you have to be very confident and you have to keep acting until she is completely safe to say yes to your request, not just once but multiples times until she knows for sure everything is completely safe. And even if it is completely safe and you spend 7 days with a girl some might not even admit that they are attracted or interested in you. It seems for most girls to say yes to an invitation is as hard as for a guy to ask a girl out. Most guy need to be completely drunk to ask a girl out or talk to one, it seems for girls to answer to a guy request positively is as hard for them.

I'm actually starting to doubt more profoundly that it is possible to make the girl act on their sexual interest unless that girl is confident to begin with and even if she is confident it might not be enough.

I'm experiencing very similar.

The mass attraction is off the roof. So many stares in a day. Lots of them even have this orgasmic look on their face. It's clear they are turned on by my aura/energy.

In interactions, some don't go anywhere. I approached this hottie who looked at me twice. She has a bf so didn't wanna take our interaction further, which is fair enough lol.

But there were two other girls who I'm pretty sure were very single, and were interested in the moment, and they also suggested themselves we should hang out again. Yet afterwards they'd flake and I never saw them again.

I kinda agree the attraction needs something more for sex to happen. Perhaps more comfort or something. Or I gotta be more persistent on my part.

Or you could just be seeing the effects of an unbalanced, unfinished DMSI and assuming that is all there is... I know you guys are dying to believe that man must initiate, but really, that's not true. And when we get finished, you will see for yourself.

Must I don't think so but the amount of girls able to initiate a conversation on their own is very low, sex even lower. So I would say it's out of character or out of the norm for a girl to initiate. I don't think it's impossible for them to initiate as I have seen it.

Actually I may not have explained myself properly above.

Girls usually don't initiate directly and straightforwardly, when they do initiate a conversation like most guys they will pretend they aren't doing it because they want you. I have heard the excuse that they know me from somewhere at least 5 times this month when they initiated conversations with me.
I think it's easier for them to initiate as long as you don't reciprocate the interest in them but once you do it seems harder for them.
So if I look at it closely what I have seen from their perspective isn't really them initiating but having the intent to make me initiate so I show my interest and when I show interest they go crazy and run
To their perspective they can pretend they weren't interested at all, they thought they knew me, it was mistake I guess complete denial.

A truly initiating girl would say something like " You look sexy, let's go grab a beer and talk or let's go somewhere to f**k"

I'm going to try that next time on them, maybe the rate would higher than just talking to them

Hmm... what exactly did you wann try next time? I didn't get that one...

[Shannon]

Or you could just be seeing the effects of an unbalanced, unfinished DMSI and assuming that is all there is... I know you guys are dying to believe that man must initiate, but really, that's not true. And when we get finished, you will see for yourself.

Problem is almost every resource out there has brainwashed us into thinking that men must take the lead. Men must lead the women to sex. Men must seduce. Men must take initiative and approach. No doubt most women have been brainwashed into believing this also and is why most take absolutely no action.

But when you say initiate do you mean initiate an interaction or initiate seduction? In that sense is actually opening an interaction with a random girl against the goals of the program?

Anyone who wishes to make progress or change must swim against the social status quo. The herd is safe not only because of numbers, but because it tends to perpetuate the status quo. If the status quo isn't working...

Men and women have indeed been brainwashed into believing, for a long time now, that men must lead a women must wait for the man to approach. That can be overcome. I'm just trying to find the way to overcome it that doesn't rip apart the fabric of society. Because anytime you change the status quo, there is upheaval, and the consequences of making DMSI work as designed may be difficult to achieve without causing problems in unintended directions.

And DMSI doesn't stop you from initiating. It is designed to make you so sexy that they initiate instead. There is nothing that says you are not free to initiate still, whenever and with whomever you like.

[Shannon]

Alright boys. I’ll throw this out to who ever have friends and/ or is in big social circles and using DMSI.

Do not say no one warned you. First of all make sure you read the disclaimer. Second, when you execute the sub you will attract your friends gfs and wives. They will be attracted to you and they will be obvious about their sexual interest.

So please act responsibly if you don’t want to go into troubles

Seeing how attraction affects girls lately much more than I have in my entire life in just a month I can say that attraction isn't you think it is especially when girls are concerned.

I haven't use the last DMSI version though but I have seen literally at least 40 women if not more showing very obvious interest repeatedly, even my blind male friends noticed it. Out of all that attraction and some that I even spoke to and ask for numbers none actually did anything about it some even batlantly rejected me after I showed interest in them some ran away, some couldn't even talk (shaking heavily)

Attraction isn't the portal to easy sex on a daily basis if you don't act on it and even if you act on it actually, at least in my experience from where I live. It seems to me that you have to be very confident and you have to keep acting until she is completely safe to say yes to your request, not just once but multiples times until she knows for sure everything is completely safe. And even if it is completely safe and you spend 7 days with a girl some might not even admit that they are attracted or interested in you. It seems for most girls to say yes to an invitation is as hard as for a guy to ask a girl out. Most guy need to be completely drunk to ask a girl out or talk to one, it seems for girls to answer to a guy request positively is as hard for them.

I'm actually starting to doubt more profoundly that it is possible to make the girl act on their sexual interest unless that girl is confident to begin with and even if she is confident it might not be enough.

I'm experiencing very similar.

The mass attraction is off the roof. So many stares in a day. Lots of them even have this orgasmic look on their face. It's clear they are turned on by my aura/energy.

In interactions, some don't go anywhere. I approached this hottie who looked at me twice. She has a bf so didn't wanna take our interaction further, which is fair enough lol.

But there were two other girls who I'm pretty sure were very single, and were interested in the moment, and they also suggested themselves we should hang out again. Yet afterwards they'd flake and I never saw them again.

I kinda agree the attraction needs something more for sex to happen. Perhaps more comfort or something. Or I gotta be more persistent on my part.

Or you could just be seeing the effects of an unbalanced, unfinished DMSI and assuming that is all there is... I know you guys are dying to believe that man must initiate, but really, that's not true. And when we get finished, you will see for yourself.

Must I don't think so but the amount of girls able to initiate a conversation on their own is very low, sex even lower. So I would say it's out of character or out of the norm for a girl to initiate. I don't think it's impossible for them to initiate as I have seen it.

Actually I may not have explained myself properly above.

Girls usually don't initiate directly and straightforwardly, when they do initiate a conversation like most guys they will pretend they aren't doing it because they want you. I have heard the excuse that they know me from somewhere at least 5 times this month when they initiated conversations with me.
I think it's easier for them to initiate as long as you don't reciprocate the interest in them but once you do it seems harder for them.
So if I look at it closely what I have seen from their perspective isn't really them initiating but having the intent to make me initiate so I show my interest and when I show interest they go crazy and run
To their perspective they can pretend they weren't interested at all, they thought they knew me, it was mistake I guess complete denial.

A truly initiating girl would say something like " You look sexy, let's go grab a beer and talk or let's go somewhere to f**k"

I'm going to try that next time on them, maybe the rate would higher than just talking to them

This is not a light switch. People are more complex than that.

What you are seeing is them initiate. They are initiating female-style, but they are initiating. They are also initiating to the degree the aura you project, etc. interests them and allows them to overcome their fears. When they are sufficiently interested and affected to overcome their fears, you will see them initiate just like any man does: straight to the point and going for the gold. It's just a matter of level of interest and level of confidence.

[JackOfHearts]

Seeing how attraction affects girls lately much more than I have in my entire life in just a month I can say that attraction isn't you think it is especially when girls are concerned.

I haven't use the last DMSI version though but I have seen literally at least 40 women if not more showing very obvious interest repeatedly, even my blind male friends noticed it. Out of all that attraction and some that I even spoke to and ask for numbers none actually did anything about it some even batlantly rejected me after I showed interest in them some ran away, some couldn't even talk (shaking heavily)

Attraction isn't the portal to easy sex on a daily basis if you don't act on it and even if you act on it actually, at least in my experience from where I live. It seems to me that you have to be very confident and you have to keep acting until she is completely safe to say yes to your request, not just once but multiples times until she knows for sure everything is completely safe. And even if it is completely safe and you spend 7 days with a girl some might not even admit that they are attracted or interested in you. It seems for most girls to say yes to an invitation is as hard as for a guy to ask a girl out. Most guy need to be completely drunk to ask a girl out or talk to one, it seems for girls to answer to a guy request positively is as hard for them.

I'm actually starting to doubt more profoundly that it is possible to make the girl act on their sexual interest unless that girl is confident to begin with and even if she is confident it might not be enough.

I'm experiencing very similar.

The mass attraction is off the roof. So many stares in a day. Lots of them even have this orgasmic look on their face. It's clear they are turned on by my aura/energy.

In interactions, some don't go anywhere. I approached this hottie who looked at me twice. She has a bf so didn't wanna take our interaction further, which is fair enough lol.

But there were two other girls who I'm pretty sure were very single, and were interested in the moment, and they also suggested themselves we should hang out again. Yet afterwards they'd flake and I never saw them again.

I kinda agree the attraction needs something more for sex to happen. Perhaps more comfort or something. Or I gotta be more persistent on my part.

Or you could just be seeing the effects of an unbalanced, unfinished DMSI and assuming that is all there is... I know you guys are dying to believe that man must initiate, but really, that's not true. And when we get finished, you will see for yourself.

Must I don't think so but the amount of girls able to initiate a conversation on their own is very low, sex even lower. So I would say it's out of character or out of the norm for a girl to initiate. I don't think it's impossible for them to initiate as I have seen it.

Actually I may not have explained myself properly above.

Girls usually don't initiate directly and straightforwardly, when they do initiate a conversation like most guys they will pretend they aren't doing it because they want you. I have heard the excuse that they know me from somewhere at least 5 times this month when they initiated conversations with me.
I think it's easier for them to initiate as long as you don't reciprocate the interest in them but once you do it seems harder for them.
So if I look at it closely what I have seen from their perspective isn't really them initiating but having the intent to make me initiate so I show my interest and when I show interest they go crazy and run
To their perspective they can pretend they weren't interested at all, they thought they knew me, it was mistake I guess complete denial.

A truly initiating girl would say something like " You look sexy, let's go grab a beer and talk or let's go somewhere to f**k"

I'm going to try that next time on them, maybe the rate would higher than just talking to them

Hmm... what exactly did you wann try next time? I didn't get that one...

To be more direct instead using the crab strategy.
It seems what they want is me to take all the risk so they feel safe.
The problem I may have is thinking that leading may just be talking to a girl, starting the conversation. But if the conversation has no clear precise goal maybe that's just giving the leading role to the person you are talking to.

If I say to a girl "let's go on that table to talk because I think you are sexy, I want to know you" , then that's much direct and clear than saying "hi and sharing, name".
In both case the girl know you are here for something more than conversation but in the first case you are saying what you want to do with her.

[Shadow2200]

Seeing how attraction affects girls lately much more than I have in my entire life in just a month I can say that attraction isn't you think it is especially when girls are concerned.

I haven't use the last DMSI version though but I have seen literally at least 40 women if not more showing very obvious interest repeatedly, even my blind male friends noticed it. Out of all that attraction and some that I even spoke to and ask for numbers none actually did anything about it some even batlantly rejected me after I showed interest in them some ran away, some couldn't even talk (shaking heavily)

Attraction isn't the portal to easy sex on a daily basis if you don't act on it and even if you act on it actually, at least in my experience from where I live. It seems to me that you have to be very confident and you have to keep acting until she is completely safe to say yes to your request, not just once but multiples times until she knows for sure everything is completely safe. And even if it is completely safe and you spend 7 days with a girl some might not even admit that they are attracted or interested in you. It seems for most girls to say yes to an invitation is as hard as for a guy to ask a girl out. Most guy need to be completely drunk to ask a girl out or talk to one, it seems for girls to answer to a guy request positively is as hard for them.

I'm actually starting to doubt more profoundly that it is possible to make the girl act on their sexual interest unless that girl is confident to begin with and even if she is confident it might not be enough.

I'm experiencing very similar.

The mass attraction is off the roof. So many stares in a day. Lots of them even have this orgasmic look on their face. It's clear they are turned on by my aura/energy.

In interactions, some don't go anywhere. I approached this hottie who looked at me twice. She has a bf so didn't wanna take our interaction further, which is fair enough lol.

But there were two other girls who I'm pretty sure were very single, and were interested in the moment, and they also suggested themselves we should hang out again. Yet afterwards they'd flake and I never saw them again.

I kinda agree the attraction needs something more for sex to happen. Perhaps more comfort or something. Or I gotta be more persistent on my part.

Or you could just be seeing the effects of an unbalanced, unfinished DMSI and assuming that is all there is... I know you guys are dying to believe that man must initiate, but really, that's not true. And when we get finished, you will see for yourself.

Must I don't think so but the amount of girls able to initiate a conversation on their own is very low, sex even lower. So I would say it's out of character or out of the norm for a girl to initiate. I don't think it's impossible for them to initiate as I have seen it.

Actually I may not have explained myself properly above.

Girls usually don't initiate directly and straightforwardly, when they do initiate a conversation like most guys they will pretend they aren't doing it because they want you. I have heard the excuse that they know me from somewhere at least 5 times this month when they initiated conversations with me.
I think it's easier for them to initiate as long as you don't reciprocate the interest in them but once you do it seems harder for them.
So if I look at it closely what I have seen from their perspective isn't really them initiating but having the intent to make me initiate so I show my interest and when I show interest they go crazy and run
To their perspective they can pretend they weren't interested at all, they thought they knew me, it was mistake I guess complete denial.

A truly initiating girl would say something like " You look sexy, let's go grab a beer and talk or let's go somewhere to f**k"

I'm going to try that next time on them, maybe the rate would higher than just talking to them

This is not a light switch. People are more complex than that.

What you are seeing is them initiate. They are initiating female-style, but they are initiating. They are also initiating to the degree the aura you project, etc. interests them and allows them to overcome their fears. When they are sufficiently interested and affected to overcome their fears, you will see them initiate just like any man does: straight to the point and going for the gold. It's just a matter of level of interest and level of confidence.

Having the imitate in very direct manner would be great addition to DMSI 3.3

[firsthelix]

Shannon,

Will DMSI 3.2A be released today?