Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3

[Morgul]

For anyone whos unaware obviously creating a second account when banned for good reason will just get you banned again.

Hmmm, but how will they get customer support if they are banned? Banned people seem to still be buying products.

It would be nice you allowed a way for them to have support, maybe a forum area called Prison, or something like that Where they can message with their normal, banned account, but only admins can reply.

@Cyanide would that be possible to do? Maybe you don't even allow them to login right now, so I'm aware it could be a lot of work to do, unless some plugin by chance does something similar to that.

But it feels a bit sad if they have absolutely no way to make up for what they did, and unfair if they cannot get customer support, even they are still buying new products.

[THolt]

Hello
I have stopped running SE for the past five days and I am thinking about running MHS for some acid reflux/stomach issues I am having.

I am aware of the 21 day rule but I would rather not wait three weeks to run the sub. Has anyone ever jumped to MHS without waiting 21 days?

[DarthXedonias]

For anyone whos unaware obviously creating a second account when banned for good reason will just get you banned again.

Hmmm, but how will they get customer support if they are banned? Banned people seem to still be buying products.

It would be nice you allowed a way for them to have support, maybe a forum area called Prison, or something like that Where they can message with their normal, banned account, but only admins can reply.

@Cyanide would that be possible to do? Maybe you don't even allow them to login right now, so I'm aware it could be a lot of work to do, unless some plugin by chance does something similar to that.

But it feels a bit sad if they have absolutely no way to make up for what they did, and unfair if they cannot get customer support, even they are still buying new products.

They are only banned from the forum which doesn't constitute whether they get customer support or not. If they have actual technical difficulty there is actually a way to contact with a form through email which Ben and , I assume, Cyanide check. This is done through the main site so people can still get customer support if they want. They just can't post on the forum anymore. As to whether they would have some kind of prison thing where they can do "time" or something to that matter then comeback to the forum.. eh not sure if they would even contemplate that. From what I've seen of many people who get banned they get a warning (or multiple warnings in the case of some people), then they get a temporary ban, and then if they still can't control themselves they get perma banned. Way I see it If you get up to a temp ban and know that if you keep crossing the line your going to get perma banned yet you continue to "choose" not to use some self control then that isn't exactly their fault. At that point that's on you. At least that's my opinion on it.

[Benjamin]

Thats just moving the problem around and rewarding them for their behavior with a special forum. People banned have had several opportunities to 'make up for it" before being banned.

Yes there is a way for support as Darthxonias said. Ive given support for downloads and such for several people who have been banned from the forum.

[Morgul]

Thats just moving the problem around and rewarding them for their behavior with a special forum. People banned have had several opportunities to 'make up for it" before being banned.

Yes there is a way for support as Darthxonias said. Ive given support for downloads and such for several people who have been banned from the forum.

That's great to know! Sorry, I was unaware they had other ways to have support. This way it's fair, very good you have it like this.

And yes, I partially agree with both of you and DarthXedonias, if they were already given several chances, they should have corrected their behavior before. And I fully agree a special area of the forum could easily seem like a reward for their bad behavior.

The only problem to this issue I see is that some times, people become a**holes for a long time (from months to years), but they eventually realize it and change. It particularly has happened frequently with people using programs that add confidence, such as AM and DMSI, before the humbleness balanced their ego. It even happened to Shannon himself in the past, before he solved it with programming that's good enough for him (and most others). Maybe the problem comes with people whose ego is too out of balance, and their confidence might be increased too fast before the balancing has enough time to happen. Only Shannon will know whether this is possible.

And anyway, it's your forum, your rules. I don't and won't have these issues. But I miss a few good members that turned bad before being banned, who didn't solve fast enough their rudeness within. In particular, the guy who introduced me to Indigo MindLabs.

[Oversoul]

Hi Shannon,curious to know if the scripts from 'attract your perfect nymphomaniac lover', 'attract your soulmate' and 'attract your perfect friends with benefits' are included in DMSI? Thanks in advance

[Benjamin]

Hi Shannon,curious to know if the scripts from 'attract your perfect nymphomaniac lover', 'attract your soulmate' and 'attract your perfect friends with benefits' are included in DMSI? Thanks in advance

I know it doesn't have those scripts in it. There is manifestation of women that match the design goal, but Shannon would have to expand on that part, it's completely seperate from the other manifestation programs.

[josh84]

Hi Shannon, since i have been on 3.2a i have had no energy to do anything and sleeping a lot and even after 10 or more hours of sleep still have no energy to do much for the day, its been that way since started on 3.2a where on b i was waking up early had plenty of energy apart from first few days and that was on 3-5 hours of sleep a night.

Not seeing any changes that i can notice apart from not worried what others think too much, but still approaching strangers is difficult, i can talk with people i know a little easier. External results there isnt any, before 3.2 was getting looks dont get anything now, hopefully that improves later.

With being so tired all the time is something at work that i dont know about as im not having dreams not noticing anything much and no external results.

I assume something has to be changing for me to be so tired just havent been able to notice it yet?

[Shannon]

Hey guys. I find the whole idea of Temporal Displacement (TID) very fascinating. And the fact that Shannon has been able to make use of it through subliminals. I'd like to learn more about this concept, but I haven't found much information about it online. How much do you guys know about it? And could you point me to some interesting articles to read or videos to watch?

TID is, as far as I know, something I invented. That would be why you haven't found much about it online.

What we know about it is that all experiments and observations so far point to it's existence, and that the latest version of the P6 module (which creates this effect) is able to start noticeably affecting people between 4 to 7 weeks before the person uses the program. This of course depends on the person's level of resistance; for the most resistant amongst us, even running the program directly isn't doing much yet. Obviously, those persons trying to resist like that and succeeding are not going to encounter TID. It is an effect that results in you experiencing the effects of the program before you start running it.

The only source of information about it is here on this forum. , because I am the only source of subliminal programs that creates this effect - again, as far as I know. I'm sure there will be copycats soonly enough, who achieve various degrees of success with recreating this.

Thank you Shannon. Lastly, if there's enough data on it; is the TID effect just as strong as the real one? Or will actually listening to a sub will induce more of an effect?

TID ramps up from below the threshold of perception to its full potential for effect as you start using it, and then the program takes over. In most cases, it puts you where the program will be in terms of power right before you start using the program. The sub then continues to increase the impact.

[Shannon]

Id say finish the current 14 day cycle. Take the day off then go onto A. That makes the most sense.

For 3.1 Shannon told me atleast 2 weeks on one version before switching. But he may say different on 3.2.

Switching from A to B and back really shouldn't require much rest unless you really want to differentiate between the H&C and non-H&C. A day off is fine for that.

[Shannon]

Also how does the Self Esteem program fit into this because that program was added to 3.2B, so is that left out of A because goal 2 deals with self esteem already?

The script of SE 5.5G is included in B. The scripting of A that is not in B is designed to generate self esteem through how it heals and clears you, and how the H&C modules interact.

What about ARA 5.5G? is that in B only or both A and B?

ARA is not designed as an "A or B" format. It uses a hybrid approach, not quite either one.

[Shannon]

I just started using MHS 5.5g and I want to know is it safe/okay to use with other people present? I am having my girlfriend stay over the weekend and is it okay to expose her since I primarily use it when I sleep or will I be better to just take a few days off when she's staying over?

Currently recovering from a surgical procedure, so I will be using it for the next few weeks as the incision heals.

It is safe.

[Shannon]

Hey Shannon

I have been using version A (DMSI) now for little more than a week, yesterday was my day off. I have noticed that I have trouble going to sleep, so I bought your Sleep Aid program, without any success I have tried using it now for 3 nights. Running 3 loops, starting with Masked and ending with 2 Ultrasonics, at best it makes me yawn and TRY to relax while in bed.
But it's like I can't shut off my mind and I almost feel hyper-active running from one thought to the next.
I'm gonna assume there's nothing in "The Wall" or DMSI in general to prevent insomnia?

First, the best track to use is the ultrasonic. You also want to remember that for this program, the higher the volume the better. I never use the masked format at all. And no, nothing in DMSI prevents insomnia.

DMSI must be scaring my subC so much that it doesn't allow me to go to sleep in resistance to either H/C or something like the SATT module, and in general to just throw me off.

So my question would be how to best handle this? By staying up longer until I can't handle it anymore and go to sleep? Or how would I effectively be able to communicate to my subC that there's nothing to be afraid of and I want to go to sleep?

Use SIA properly: Lay down, close your eyes, make sure it's dark, get comfortable, and try to fall asleep. Use it on high volume and ultrasonic track. If you're starting with a hyperactive mind, 3-4 loops or looping all night night be necessary. But if you do everything right, it will usually knock you out in 15 to 40 minutes.

I don't recommend trying to stay awake forever, as sleep deprivation degrades everything.

You can try talking to your subconscious and explaining that you want the goals to be achieved and it is safe to do so.

Other than this insomniac response in resistance, the product is working great in my opinion.

Good.

[Shannon]

DMSI 3.2 A, first night off tonight.

So this last week and more so the last few days, I've been quite mad in finding ways I can get to where I want to get to. I now know to get to where I want to get to I have to grow ALOT, as I have been in my comfort zone for many years.

Getting to where I want to get to (my ideal kinda life) involves lots of pieces, where each piece looks like it is not related to my "end goal". So instead of my destination being simple and going from A straight to Z, its like going from A to Triangle, Triangle to B, B to Cross, Cross to C...etc You get the picture.

Anyway, I have decided I am going to get out of my comfort zone, go to a Foreign land for at least 1 year and work. I really feel like this will enable me to experience a lot of growth.

I have got shoulder surgery in May, other than that... I am going to be fking off in July time. This is all I am saying for now.

What do you think H&C? OE?

I honestly don't know. Too many variables in play in this case.