Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3

[eternity]

Contemplating switching to e2 to heal from the pain of losing someone, but i wonder if staying on 3.2 would be better?

[Benjamin]

There are some guys here, who despite being virgins, feel compelled to offer dating advice to other men (which is just ludicrous).

Exactly.. I shake my head at this stuff. Especially when I see literal walls of text with advice to other guys about women by guys who sound convincing but obviously have no idea seeing that they have never had sex.

Contemplating switching to e2 to heal from the pain of losing someone, but i wonder if staying on 3.2 would be better?

Sorry to hear about what happened. Hmm, i'm not sure what Shannon would say but i'd probably say E2 because of the other things contained in it. Maybe wait for his reply though.

[Determined]

Contemplating switching to e2 to heal from the pain of losing someone, but i wonder if staying on 3.2 would be better?

Brother, research the grieving process.

It's a 5-7 stage process (shock and denial >>> pain and guilt >>> anger and bargaining >>> depression/ reflection >>> the upward turn/ working through it >>> acceptance and hope) on how the subconscious transforms feelings of loss.

I used to think it was BS until I went through my own process of loss. Having come out the other end I can say two things
1) I feel incredibly empowered for having had the experience (acceptance and hope)
2) I recognise as a responsible man living life, I'll be faced with many more losses at some point. The better I can learn/understand this process, the better able I'll be to weather life's future challenges.

[lano1106]

The type of woman you are referring to can and will initiate. She will usually not do so in public unless drunk or otherwise over the top aroused and enthralled at the same time. Like all women, like all humans, she has an animal brain and sexual instincts, and if you hit that button hard enough, she will act on them. You have a self limiting belief here, associating the modern feminist with what DMSI is going after and seeing it as being in conflict with what you want.

Believe me, it is very possible to find a woman who is feminine who will initiate and have sex with a man she finds sufficiently attractive and valuable. No matter how submissive a woman is, she still has ways of doing this. I speak from personal experience. DMSI can and will get you the kind of woman you are attracted to, as soon as your misunderstandings get out of the way. Your subconscious knows what the script is, and is fully aware that what I say is true. Which means in this case, it is likely your conscious mind resisting...

Ok. I accept and will let sink-in this truth inside my mind... ;-)

And I can relate to what you describe as a high-value male. Before I started DMSI, I got this wild night in a club where I went there with a female friend and her female friend. So I came in the place with 2 girls. I noticed the most beautiful girl in the place. I went to see her to say hello. She had an immediate crush on me as I kept bumping into her all along the night.

She did ask if we had plans after the place close. She did put her phone # into my phone without me asking for it. She did qualify big time to me by telling me what she was doing at her job (she tried to impress me). As she was talking to me, in the back of my mind, I was telling to myself: She is so much into me. I have this girl.

So when the club did close, we ended up at my friend place and I ended in bed with these 3 girls.

So I know what it is when a girl is around a high-value male. That type of adventure simply did not happen much since DMSI 3.1... I just shared this story to establish that I know what it looks like when a girl is chasing a guy...

How regularly and frequently did you have that type of adventure before 3.1? Because if it slowed down in response to 3.1 or later, you were preventing it from happening for some reason.

Not often. I gave my wildest sexual experience as an example ;-)
This is once in a lifetime type of thing. Nothing has slowed down. No worries.

I got a very interesting fling immediately when I started DMSI 3.1. It started in July and ended end of November... nothing to complain about it. It was very fun...

When I break up from one of those things, it takes some time before my hormones start bothering me and tell me to do something to change my situation. I'm at such a point now. I want some female companionship and I know that it won't be long before finding it. Idk, it is as if I had some kind of seasonal cycle. 4 flings/year seems about right for me.

Actually, it is the bare minimum. I could have a little bit more if I had interesting offers but not much more than 1 at the same time. I really don't have much free time to spend with women.

It is like the Maslow pyramid. I'm almost in survival mode. I stopped working for a salary to dedicate myself to my business.

It is very rewarding because the potential is the sky once it lift off. I'm my own boss which give me tremendous 'freedom' despite having to work 7 days a week...

Income is volatile and not totally fully sustainable. Hence as I said, my social life is taking a hit. I have no doubt in my mind that if I was just going out once a week since last summer, I would have had more sexual partners...

Just tonight, there is a girl who was going out in a club with her girlfriend and she invited me to join them and I declined because I had shit to complete. We are supposed to meet tomorrow evening but you never know what will happen tomorrow. If my business would have been more in control, I would have certainly accepted the invitation and maybe something wild would have come out of it....

but yes... maybe I prevent something... too personal to share on a public forum but this exchange made me realize something Shannon... You gave me few things to meditate on...

3. idk, if you will agree but I don't believe that I high-value man will dedicate time to chase women. This is opposite of being high-value. I believe that a high-value man is busy realizing his vision and women see the potential of the man so she is attracted to that.

As long as your beliefs conflict with the goals of DMSI, you will resist it. As long as you believe that you have to chase to get tail, you will be stuck believing you are displaying lower value while you are in fact classing yourself, at best, as being "Level 2" instead of Level 1. Just because a lot of guys can't naturally get attention without action is not to say that the top 1% of the top 1% can't. What you're trying to do is be that level 2 or whatever guy, who is successful within his level. What DMSI is trying to do is turn you into that Level 1 guy you refuse to believe exists.

Brad Pitt walks into a bar. How many women does he have to game to go out to his car and get his dick wet?

Nicholas Cage. Elvis Presley. Michael Jordan. John F. Kennedy. Justin Beiber. George Clooney. Will Smith. Johnny Depp. Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson. Tom Cruise. Robert Downey Jr. Ashton Kutcher. Channing Tatum. Frank Sinatra. Tiger Woods. Leonardo DiCaprio. Eminem. John Wayne. All of these guys, and many more, could answer with...

Zero.

I think that I believe and get that. This belief is integrated. I expect good reaction from women when I interact with them and I do receive the good reaction. I rarely get rejected when I open women and I do get opened quite frequently now that I come to think about it.

My problem is that I'm so busy with my vision (my business) that my social life is taking a hit. I have small interactions with women during random errands. Very positive interactions but I need to do something (like exchanging contact infos) or else nothing happens. I'm all in for letting women chasing me but I need to at least give them the opportunity to do so.

Right now, this is not an habit to leave my contact infos to women reacting very positively to me when I meet them. This is something that I should be doing on autopilot without having to think about it...

You can say that I have blocks, limiting beliefs but right now this is my best explanation for not having maybe not as much sex as I could have...

The highest value men do not have to leave contact info. They are flooded with it from women.

Women want to be with them and **** them and please them so much that they will do whatever it takes to succeed. That's why these guys have to wear disguises in public, and avoid certain places in public, and and and.

You are not thinking like a DMSI man yet.

ok, lets continue listening the program until I do then...

thx for the feedback...

[lano1106]

I honestly haven't noticed much either but i've only been using the program for a week. Is it really necessary to completely abstain from masturbation? I understand not watching porn but is there something in the program which commands the sub-conscious to avoid masturbation?

If this is true then does masturbation prevent the entirety of the script from successfully reprogramming the subconscious?

Going for such long periods without masturbation may lead to embarrassing premature ejaculation during sex when it comes. I understand if you are getting a lot of sex then masturbation is not necessary but if the sex isn't there wouldn't it just lead to more frustration and neediness?

When you don't masturbate, you accumulate testosterone and sexual energy. You transmute that into achieving things you want, for example, sex. Personally, I find a lot more girls attracted to me when I don't masturbate, because they can sense my energy. The aura expands and hits more people when you retain your semen. No it's not placebo - it's real stuff. So if you ask if it's necessary to abstain from masturbation? Well there are more benefits to abstain than to masturbate. You don't need to abstain, but it just helps more.

I masturbated last Thursday before my date, that got rid of my neediness and I got laid at the end of the night and I had a lot more stamina, so I don't completely agree with your theory but I guess people are different.

It is just a question of balance. If you tend to suffer from premature ejaculation, releasing some pressure before a sexual encounter can definitely help.

Science has demonstrated that ejaculation had minimal influence on testosterone (Just Google 'ejaculation testosterone' to find content talking about that)

Also, it is healthy to ejaculate regularly to reduce prostate cancer risks. Doctors says you should do it about 4 times a week. Also, consider that the various male sexual glans are like a muscle. You must use your plumbing for them to be in shape and awake. It is like the adage saying that the appetite comes by eating...

Masturbation and porn watching will be a problem if it becomes an addiction and a way from avoiding having sexual encounters.

Abstinence do eshave an effect on libido that I like. When I feel horny, it does motivate me to take action. So I leverage that effect to my advantage but abstinence over about a week, in my experience, it does not continue to build up the sex drive/motivation to have sex...

[Shawn]

I honestly haven't noticed much either but i've only been using the program for a week. Is it really necessary to completely abstain from masturbation? I understand not watching porn but is there something in the program which commands the sub-conscious to avoid masturbation?

If this is true then does masturbation prevent the entirety of the script from successfully reprogramming the subconscious?

Going for such long periods without masturbation may lead to embarrassing premature ejaculation during sex when it comes. I understand if you are getting a lot of sex then masturbation is not necessary but if the sex isn't there wouldn't it just lead to more frustration and neediness?

When you don't masturbate, you accumulate testosterone and sexual energy. You transmute that into achieving things you want, for example, sex. Personally, I find a lot more girls attracted to me when I don't masturbate, because they can sense my energy. The aura expands and hits more people when you retain your semen. No it's not placebo - it's real stuff. So if you ask if it's necessary to abstain from masturbation? Well there are more benefits to abstain than to masturbate. You don't need to abstain, but it just helps more.

I masturbated last Thursday before my date, that got rid of my neediness and I got laid at the end of the night and I had a lot more stamina, so I don't completely agree with your theory but I guess people are different.

It is just a question of balance. If you tend to suffer from premature ejaculation, releasing some pressure before a sexual encounter can definitely help.

Science has demonstrated that ejaculation had minimal influence on testosterone (Just Google 'ejaculation testosterone' to find content talking about that)

Also, it is healthy to ejaculate regularly to reduce prostate cancer risks. Doctors says you should do it about 4 times a week. Also, consider that the various male sexual glans are like a muscle. You must use your plumbing for them to be in shape and awake. It is like the adage saying that the appetite comes by eating...

Masturbation and porn watching will be a problem if it becomes an addiction and a way from avoiding having sexual encounters.

Abstinence do eshave an effect on libido that I like. When I feel horny, it does motivate me to take action. So I leverage that effect to my advantage but abstinence over about a week, in my experience, it does not continue to build up the sex drive/motivation to have sex...

Agreed with most things here. From my experience I can say that once every 5 - 7 days gives you a good energy build up and doesn't lower the energy too much after release.

[Ymiraku]

As long as your beliefs conflict with the goals of DMSI, you will resist it. As long as you believe that you have to chase to get tail, you will be stuck believing you are displaying lower value while you are in fact classing yourself, at best, as being "Level 2" instead of Level 1. Just because a lot of guys can't naturally get attention without action is not to say that the top 1% of the top 1% can't. What you're trying to do is be that level 2 or whatever guy, who is successful within his level. What DMSI is trying to do is turn you into that Level 1 guy you refuse to believe exists.

Brad Pitt walks into a bar. How many women does he have to game to go out to his car and get his dick wet?

Nicholas Cage. Elvis Presley. Michael Jordan. John F. Kennedy. Justin Beiber. George Clooney. Will Smith. Johnny Depp. Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson. Tom Cruise. Robert Downey Jr. Ashton Kutcher. Channing Tatum. Frank Sinatra. Tiger Woods. Leonardo DiCaprio. Eminem. John Wayne. All of these guys, and many more, could answer with...

Zero.

It helps that everyone you listed there is a celebrity and are mostly household names and command extremely high social status. What about a guy who isn't popular and well known outside of his own friends and acquaintances? Sure he may be extremely attractive and have high personal value and will get a lot of looks from women but he is and unknown variable to most people. It doesn't matter how strong your sexual energy is, the society conditioned thinking that 99% of the female are ruled by will prevent them from making first contact with you, maybe unless they are extremely confident themselves and are willing to risk breaking the conditioned rules that they have programmed with. But that is an exceptional situation.

[Believe]

Hey Shannon,

A friend wants to quit smoking and i told her about Subs.

But i do not understand the difference between "Stop Smoking Forever! Version 5.1 Six Stage Set (5th Generation, Type B/C/D Hybrid)" & "Stop Smoking Forever 7.0 5G Single Stage".

What is the difference? (except the price). Is the one more effective than the other one?

Thank you in advance

[Nox]

As long as your beliefs conflict with the goals of DMSI, you will resist it. As long as you believe that you have to chase to get tail, you will be stuck believing you are displaying lower value while you are in fact classing yourself, at best, as being "Level 2" instead of Level 1. Just because a lot of guys can't naturally get attention without action is not to say that the top 1% of the top 1% can't. What you're trying to do is be that level 2 or whatever guy, who is successful within his level. What DMSI is trying to do is turn you into that Level 1 guy you refuse to believe exists.

Brad Pitt walks into a bar. How many women does he have to game to go out to his car and get his dick wet?

Nicholas Cage. Elvis Presley. Michael Jordan. John F. Kennedy. Justin Beiber. George Clooney. Will Smith. Johnny Depp. Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson. Tom Cruise. Robert Downey Jr. Ashton Kutcher. Channing Tatum. Frank Sinatra. Tiger Woods. Leonardo DiCaprio. Eminem. John Wayne. All of these guys, and many more, could answer with...

Zero.

It helps that everyone you listed there is a celebrity and are mostly household names and command extremely high social status. What about a guy who isn't popular and well known outside of his own friends and acquaintances? Sure he may be extremely attractive and have high personal value and will get a lot of looks from women but he is and unknown variable to most people. It doesn't matter how strong your sexual energy is, the society conditioned thinking that 99% of the female are ruled by will prevent them from making first contact with you, maybe unless they are extremely confident themselves and are willing to risk breaking the conditioned rules that they have programmed with. But that is an exceptional situation.

How about instead of coming up with reasons that youre going to fail you come up with reasons why you're going to succeed?

It's seriously like everyone here is deadset on proving that they're failures so that DMSI is also a failure.

You bought the damned subliminal, how about helping it give you your money's worth? Stop reinforcing your doubts and start shaping your beliefs. Be positive.

[Shannon]

Shannon would you add the Buddha set to your list?

Sure. But it still won't get done for more than a year, maybe longer, with what I have in queue already.

[Shannon]

Hey Shannon

1) I didnt feel sleepy/tired today from listening (headphones) - is this a good sign?

I don't know.

2) Can stress (in my case uni stress) affect the sub at all, or does it not matter either way?

thanks in advance my friend

Can stress affect your choice to execute the script?

I should hope not but someone before said that stress can and tbh since were all under stress as humans anyway, then surely stress cannot interfer with the subs or the subconscious.

if stress is a factor then i have been stressed because im at uni, they go hand in hand as does the stress of being a procrastinator and last minute crammer. so I was hoping you knew so I could get some insight into this but now feel its an unknown factor so time will tell.

thank you

The issue you have, Jake, is that you are so afraid of so much that you focus on your fears instead of living life. That's why you are constantly asking me questions, asking for permission and generally asking for reassurance.

Resistance is always, Always, ALWAYS based in fear if you follow the rabbit hole deep enough.

[Shannon]

Today is my day 9th day of listening to 3.2 ever since I started listening to it I have always gotten results I am probably one of the very few people on this forum who do not resist.

But for the past 2 days every time when I listen to the sub 30 to 45 minutes after my heart begins to beat really fast my hands shaking, as I type this I feel like my heart is about to jump out of my chest, what is this? A form of resistance or what?

Shannon please can you clarify this for me.
Cheers

The program has been working to get through the mountain, and it has worked its way in deeply enough to find something significant that is blocking you. It's not resistance (never thought I'd hear myself say that to someone on this forum, lol), it's you executing and finding something deep down that scares the living shit out of you which you must deal with before you can completely execute the script.

Just keep going. Everything will be alright.

[josh84]

Hi Shannon, if i use masked track on my phone with headphone will that work effectively or best to use stereo speakers through the computer?

I ask because i read in some posts about phones being a mono speaker but i think thats only when using it without headphones?

Also as i wasnt on 3.1 for more than 16 days, as powerful as the sub is it will still take some time to see external results, we all hope to get results immediately but i dont think our subconscious works that fast for the amount its trying to process with your subliminal.

For new users would you be expecting to see decent results after the 30 day mark?

Also with masked what volume would you recommend trying, is having it too loud diminishing the effectiveness of the subliminal?

[Shawn]

I ask because i read in some posts about phones being a mono speaker but i think thats only when using it without headphones?

Iphone has only one speaker, so it is mono but it still contains both channels which makes it better than pure mono. But if you use headphones then you get real stereo.