Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol.9

[Frosted]

@Shannon DRS 6.5G seems to have stopped whatever has been haunting me for weeks now. It seems the root was external this whole time.

I've almost finished stage 2 and had two large breaks from it already due to all these things outside of my control. Finally I feel ready to continue. Should I start where I left off with Stage 2 last? I think I was like 3/4s of the way done. Or should I start stage 2 from the beginning? I'm almost partial from just starting stage 1 from the beginning to get some more healing from all the bad luck I've had recently.

Any advice is very very much appreciated Shannon and thank you for all the work that you do. This shit is fucking awesome!

First,  hope you have made the right choice.  I am not saying that DRS v3 cannot do what you're reporting, it absolutely can.  But with the possibility of undiagnosed perception altering conditions present, I'm not entirely sure that this choice was the best.

Second, as I state in the instructions, AM7 should not be used with an external shield if you want the intended results.  It will take resources away from the program, and will therefore result in unknown deviation from the goal.

Third, if you are going to finish the program, I suggest you finish Stage 2 as if there were no interruptions and then make good and sure there are no more unless it is an emergency.

I hope everything is okay for you now.  Best wishes.

Oh your answer actually kind of freaked me out. Do you think I shouldn't finish AM7 then? I don't think I can handle it if the string of bad internal and external luck that happened to me continues. DRS yesterday made me feel more normal yesterday and gave me a taste of what I was feeling like before I had this sudden "downfall". Do you have any advice? I could say more but I'm holding back a ton. I'm kinda lost because I don't really know of anything that can help on what I'm experiencing beyond somebody like you or some hidden guide who is versed in these kinds of things. But I understand that your time is valuable and it may not be your place. If there's some way I can give you money or something, I'd do it, though I suspect that wouldn't be enough.

Basically I feel like I was just about to reach something, got overeager and became like a beacon in the wilderness. I feel like I sort of became an "all you can eat buffet" or a flower for all the hungry bees out there, if you know what I mean, as well as something to step on so it doesn't potentially grow into something dangerous. At least this is the internal experience of it. I mean mostly it could just be mental illness from lack of sleep. I haven't been really talking much about it cause it's just crazy mumbo jumbo but also if its real I'm pretty sure there's some sort of unspoken thing where you don't talk about it. When I was laying in bed I felt like an invisible audience was watching me, during that 2 week eclipse period or whatever when this was happening.


Unfortunately I imagine the best advice you would give me is to take a break from your programs (which I had already been doing). Get more sleep (which I'm working on with medication since something keeps forcing me awake). I've still got access to my ability to question my reality. 

I think my case is sort of one where I'd need a one on one with a specialist, but the problem is is that you're the closest to what I think would actually help that I know of and yet I know that its inappropriate and also I don't want to be like a homeless uncouth beggar. If there's any way you could steer me in the right direction to help myself I'd be super appreciative. I've held back a lot, but basically I feel like I'm dealing with some kind of subtle layer of reality unto its own that I have only a foggy perception of and that not even perfect and my connection to it is fucking me over constantly. That or I'm just mentally ill from lack of sleep or both. Also entities are involved if its not just mental illness.


Feel free to completely ignore this. No expectation whatsoever. And thank you for everything genuinely. The more time goes on the more admiration I feel for you and your work.

[Shannon]

First,  hope you have made the right choice.  I am not saying that DRS v3 cannot do what you're reporting, it absolutely can.  But with the possibility of undiagnosed perception altering conditions present, I'm not entirely sure that this choice was the best.

Second, as I state in the instructions, AM7 should not be used with an external shield if you want the intended results.  It will take resources away from the program, and will therefore result in unknown deviation from the goal.

Third, if you are going to finish the program, I suggest you finish Stage 2 as if there were no interruptions and then make good and sure there are no more unless it is an emergency.

I hope everything is okay for you now.  Best wishes.

Oh your answer actually kind of freaked me out. Do you think I shouldn't finish AM7 then? I don't think I can handle it if the string of bad internal and external luck that happened to me continues. DRS yesterday made me feel more normal yesterday and gave me a taste of what I was feeling like before I had this sudden "downfall". Do you have any advice? I could say more but I'm holding back a ton. I'm kinda lost because I don't really know of anything that can help on what I'm experiencing beyond somebody like you or some hidden guide who is versed in these kinds of things. But I understand that your time is valuable and it may not be your place. If there's some way I can give you money or something, I'd do it, though I suspect that wouldn't be enough.

Basically I feel like I was just about to reach something, got overeager and became like a beacon in the wilderness. I feel like I sort of became an "all you can eat buffet" or a flower for all the hungry bees out there, if you know what I mean, as well as something to step on so it doesn't potentially grow into something dangerous. At least this is the internal experience of it. I mean mostly it could just be mental illness from lack of sleep. I haven't been really talking much about it cause it's just crazy mumbo jumbo but also if its real I'm pretty sure there's some sort of unspoken thing where you don't talk about it. When I was laying in bed I felt like an invisible audience was watching me, during that 2 week eclipse period or whatever when this was happening.


Unfortunately I imagine the best advice you would give me is to take a break from your programs (which I had already been doing). Get more sleep (which I'm working on with medication since something keeps forcing me awake). I've still got access to my ability to question my reality. 

I think my case is sort of one where I'd need a one on one with a specialist, but the problem is is that you're the closest to what I think would actually help that I know of and yet I know that its inappropriate and also I don't want to be like a homeless uncouth beggar. If there's any way you could steer me in the right direction to help myself I'd be super appreciative. I've held back a lot, but basically I feel like I'm dealing with some kind of subtle layer of reality unto its own that I have only a foggy perception of and that not even perfect and my connection to it is fucking me over constantly. That or I'm just mentally ill from lack of sleep or both. Also entities are involved if its not just mental illness.


Feel free to completely ignore this. No expectation whatsoever. And thank you for everything genuinely. The more time goes on the more admiration I feel for you and your work.

I am unfortunately neither qualified nor licensed to be a psychological diagnostician nor counselor.  But what I would probably do in your situation is continue using DRS v3 for a few more days to a week, and see what happens.  Then make a decision based on that.  I unfortunately also do not have a reference for you to consider for a diagnostician or counselor type person.

If I may ask, how long have you been feeling forced awake, and what medication are you using to counter that?

[Frosted]

Oh your answer actually kind of freaked me out. Do you think I shouldn't finish AM7 then? I don't think I can handle it if the string of bad internal and external luck that happened to me continues. DRS yesterday made me feel more normal yesterday and gave me a taste of what I was feeling like before I had this sudden "downfall". Do you have any advice? I could say more but I'm holding back a ton. I'm kinda lost because I don't really know of anything that can help on what I'm experiencing beyond somebody like you or some hidden guide who is versed in these kinds of things. But I understand that your time is valuable and it may not be your place. If there's some way I can give you money or something, I'd do it, though I suspect that wouldn't be enough.

Basically I feel like I was just about to reach something, got overeager and became like a beacon in the wilderness. I feel like I sort of became an "all you can eat buffet" or a flower for all the hungry bees out there, if you know what I mean, as well as something to step on so it doesn't potentially grow into something dangerous. At least this is the internal experience of it. I mean mostly it could just be mental illness from lack of sleep. I haven't been really talking much about it cause it's just crazy mumbo jumbo but also if its real I'm pretty sure there's some sort of unspoken thing where you don't talk about it. When I was laying in bed I felt like an invisible audience was watching me, during that 2 week eclipse period or whatever when this was happening.


Unfortunately I imagine the best advice you would give me is to take a break from your programs (which I had already been doing). Get more sleep (which I'm working on with medication since something keeps forcing me awake). I've still got access to my ability to question my reality. 

I think my case is sort of one where I'd need a one on one with a specialist, but the problem is is that you're the closest to what I think would actually help that I know of and yet I know that its inappropriate and also I don't want to be like a homeless uncouth beggar. If there's any way you could steer me in the right direction to help myself I'd be super appreciative. I've held back a lot, but basically I feel like I'm dealing with some kind of subtle layer of reality unto its own that I have only a foggy perception of and that not even perfect and my connection to it is fucking me over constantly. That or I'm just mentally ill from lack of sleep or both. Also entities are involved if its not just mental illness.


Feel free to completely ignore this. No expectation whatsoever. And thank you for everything genuinely. The more time goes on the more admiration I feel for you and your work.

I am unfortunately neither qualified nor licensed to be a psychological diagnostician nor counselor.  But what I would probably do in your situation is continue using DRS v3 for a few more days to a week, and see what happens.  Then make a decision based on that.  I unfortunately also do not have a reference for you to consider for a diagnostician or counselor type person.

If I may ask, how long have you been feeling forced awake, and what medication are you using to counter that?

Thank you Shannon. I just had a nap so I feel a lot better. I had felt like the DRS from yesterday I had ran was running out of energy today and it felt like something was coming through like I was about to fall into the "abyss" like some kind of madness or some extreme negative collapse due to exhaustion. The dream was positive though. I was in a library and there was some kind of new story and I was being shown that if I were a main character, I would be like a main character from another book transplanted into one where the environment doesn't fit, or something like that.

So basically for a period that I later discovered was something called the "eclipse portal" or whatever, I suddenly found myself waking up after only 2-6 hours of sleep every single day without fail no matter what I did. I felt like I had tons of energy and electric. (at the time I felt like I was having an "enlightenment period" and reaching some kind of tipping point I didn't fully understand but felt awesome) I spent most of my time resting at this point with all the coping and resting tools I knew of and I was doing fine for a time. After some point it started becoming a burden and then eventually I realized my mind wasn't as stable as it normally was. Actually because I was so much more stable than I normally was in the past, I was able to get by on less sleep ironically. I should have just used medication and forced myself to get the sleep I needed, but at the time I did not take it seriously enough.

At first I felt like I was getting signs and stuff all the sudden and I'm usually skeptical about that stuff, but it was unusually specific to me and direct so I suddenly started paying attention. Basically I suddenly also felt the distinct sense that I was doing something awesome and there were a bunch of people there to witness it who all wanted to interact with me and it felt overwhelming, like I was a celebrity at an event and the crowd was disorganized and unrelenting. This later turned negative though as my mental health degraded and I felt like a few entities forced themselves onto me. It also felt like a lot of them were unhappy, like I was some kind of greedy idiot or upstart who had no clue what he was doing.

Man I'd love to write more, so much more, but I'm keeping it vague cause I'm not sure what I am or am not supposed to write in case this is real stuff. I'd totally spill it all in private if you think it'd be okay and you're interested. You're about the only person right now I'd trust to do that with. Even if what I went through is completely batshit insane, its pretty fantastical and structured too. I basically went through a whole hero's journey story of mental illness and actually learned a lot about who I am, like I went through some trial.


Now I am using atavan and trazadone for sleeping. They've also got me on abilify cause I went to the hospital due to a car crash that I miraculously survived when I shouldn't (I'm telling you so, so much happened in such a short time external and internal). The hospital tried to ship me off down an insane path, but I just needed some fucking sleep lol. After I started getting more sleep I became a functioning human again. I'm still gonna take the abilify just in case though.

But it's like internal and external stuff keeps conspiring to make sure I don't get enough sleep. Like somebody doesn't want me to get sleep. I'm finally able to but even recently I suddenly had a set of circumstances disturb my sleep.

[kserenyi]

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[Shannon]

"You will be able to get your hands on MM 6.5G very soon. If you did not have good results from the 6G version, please send Ben an email with your order number for your purchase of the 6G version. As long as you bought your copy and did not get any sort of price reduction on it, we will be glad to offer you a coupon for the price of the 6G version that you can apply to the 6.5G version."

Hello Shannon

Would a coupon also be available for those of us who only purchased the original 5.11G Money Magnet as well (and also every version of UMS ?  ), or just the lastest 6G version?

Thank you

I usually offer only for the previous version.  I'll give it some thought.

[Shannon]

I am unfortunately neither qualified nor licensed to be a psychological diagnostician nor counselor.  But what I would probably do in your situation is continue using DRS v3 for a few more days to a week, and see what happens.  Then make a decision based on that.  I unfortunately also do not have a reference for you to consider for a diagnostician or counselor type person.

If I may ask, how long have you been feeling forced awake, and what medication are you using to counter that?

Thank you Shannon. I just had a nap so I feel a lot better. I had felt like the DRS from yesterday I had ran was running out of energy today and it felt like something was coming through like I was about to fall into the "abyss" like some kind of madness or some extreme negative collapse due to exhaustion. The dream was positive though. I was in a library and there was some kind of new story and I was being shown that if I were a main character, I would be like a main character from another book transplanted into one where the environment doesn't fit, or something like that.

So basically for a period that I later discovered was something called the "eclipse portal" or whatever, I suddenly found myself waking up after only 2-6 hours of sleep every single day without fail no matter what I did. I felt like I had tons of energy and electric. (at the time I felt like I was having an "enlightenment period" and reaching some kind of tipping point I didn't fully understand but felt awesome) I spent most of my time resting at this point with all the coping and resting tools I knew of and I was doing fine for a time. After some point it started becoming a burden and then eventually I realized my mind wasn't as stable as it normally was. Actually because I was so much more stable than I normally was in the past, I was able to get by on less sleep ironically. I should have just used medication and forced myself to get the sleep I needed, but at the time I did not take it seriously enough.

At first I felt like I was getting signs and stuff all the sudden and I'm usually skeptical about that stuff, but it was unusually specific to me and direct so I suddenly started paying attention. Basically I suddenly also felt the distinct sense that I was doing something awesome and there were a bunch of people there to witness it who all wanted to interact with me and it felt overwhelming, like I was a celebrity at an event and the crowd was disorganized and unrelenting. This later turned negative though as my mental health degraded and I felt like a few entities forced themselves onto me. It also felt like a lot of them were unhappy, like I was some kind of greedy idiot or upstart who had no clue what he was doing.

Man I'd love to write more, so much more, but I'm keeping it vague cause I'm not sure what I am or am not supposed to write in case this is real stuff. I'd totally spill it all in private if you think it'd be okay and you're interested. You're about the only person right now I'd trust to do that with. Even if what I went through is completely batshit insane, its pretty fantastical and structured too. I basically went through a whole hero's journey story of mental illness and actually learned a lot about who I am, like I went through some trial.


Now I am using atavan and trazadone for sleeping. They've also got me on abilify cause I went to the hospital due to a car crash that I miraculously survived when I shouldn't (I'm telling you so, so much happened in such a short time external and internal). The hospital tried to ship me off down an insane path, but I just needed some fucking sleep lol. After I started getting more sleep I became a functioning human again. I'm still gonna take the abilify just in case though.

But it's like internal and external stuff keeps conspiring to make sure I don't get enough sleep. Like somebody doesn't want me to get sleep. I'm finally able to but even recently I suddenly had a set of circumstances disturb my sleep.

More details in that direction would probably not be useful.

It sounds like you may be deeply sleep deprived, which can definitely do to one's mind strange things indeed.  Of course I am not a diagnostician.  Definitely advise focusing on getting your brain back to having had enough sleep.  Sleep is when your brain cleanses itself, and without that you can have some really bad things result.

[Frosted]

@Shannon Will do. Sleep is the top priority. Thanks for the replies. Also I forgot to mention, but I'm pretty sure I might be going through a kundalini awakening and that might've been why I couldn't sleep.

[hubris101]

Ok, thanks, I actually looked through all the instructions and couldn't find any mention of that. It is explicitly said that one shouldn't take any breaks between stages 1 and 6/7 but not whether that applies to stage 0 as well.
To clarify, I did not ask if I could take breaks between individual cycles of stage 0 but only after finishing the 4 months-block, I suppose the answer is still the same?

Yes.  If you are using Stage 0 as part of the set, then the stages must be done back to back to get the intended results, evenm when you do 4 months of Stage 0.

Got it, then that's what I'll do, thanks. 
Btw, will stage 7 be available to everyone or is it only meant as a bonus for those who purchased the full set? I am using the subscription.

[Shannon]

Yes.  If you are using Stage 0 as part of the set, then the stages must be done back to back to get the intended results, evenm when you do 4 months of Stage 0.

Got it, then that's what I'll do, thanks. 
Btw, will stage 7 be available to everyone or is it only meant as a bonus for those who purchased the full set? I am using the subscription.

Stage 7 will be made available to those who purchase the full set, and I am contemplating how to make it available to everyone.  The key concern is, I don't want some genius to do what happened last time, where they just ignore the instructions and buy Stage 7 and then get upset because they can't handle it.  Just like I told them would happen.  No matter what I do or say, someone's going to get the smart idea that they know better than I do, and try it.  Never considering that the set is designed to grow you to the point that using Stage 7 is not only possible, but works.  It requires the growth that the stages give you before putting the whole thing in a single stage will make sense and produce good results.

With a purchase, I can just make it available as part of the set, or only with Stage 6.  As a subscription, that's not so easily done.

I would like to make it available to everyone, even subscribers.  Just not sure how to do this yet.

[Shannon]

@Shannon Will do. Sleep is the top priority. Thanks for the replies. Also I forgot to mention, but I'm pretty sure I might be going through a kundalini awakening and that might've been why I couldn't sleep.

One of my favorite instructors told me two things that I have never forgotten.  The first was, never try to drive a nail with a nuclear bomb.  The second was, never ascribe to the esoteric, what can be reasonably explained by the mundane.

If you're a student of The Art, you'll probably know what both of those are saying.  But the later should be obvious to anyone.

[Frosted]

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[hubris101]

Got it, then that's what I'll do, thanks. 
Btw, will stage 7 be available to everyone or is it only meant as a bonus for those who purchased the full set? I am using the subscription.

Stage 7 will be made available to those who purchase the full set, and I am contemplating how to make it available to everyone.  The key concern is, I don't want some genius to do what happened last time, where they just ignore the instructions and buy Stage 7 and then get upset because they can't handle it.  Just like I told them would happen.  No matter what I do or say, someone's going to get the smart idea that they know better than I do, and try it.  Never considering that the set is designed to grow you to the point that using Stage 7 is not only possible, but works.  It requires the growth that the stages give you before putting the whole thing in a single stage will make sense and produce good results.

With a purchase, I can just make it available as part of the set, or only with Stage 6.  As a subscription, that's not so easily done.

I would like to make it available to everyone, even subscribers.  Just not sure how to do this yet.

Sounds good. I would indeed like to be able to listen to stage 7 as a subscriber, what is its purpose meant to be btw? How does it go beyond the normal 6 stages? I suppose it's not a must-have but a nice-to-have addition, right?
I mean, all the other stages are available as single month subscriptions and you do say it very clearly that one should only do them in sequence and never deviate from the plan and so on. People still could ignore your instructions and try to jump in at stage 5 or something because they're so developed already or whatever. How does it differ for stage 7 then?
In the end, people are free to make their own choices and if someone wants to do something stupid, the onus is on them, not the creator (as long as reasonable warnings have been explicitly communicated), it would be unfair to deprive reasonable users of something for the sake of protecting the occasional idiot from themselves.

[callie]

@Shannon I believe I read somewhere recently that you were working on PRAv3, and I also remember you saying that it would be specifically designed for CPTSD. I have both a lot of lived experience with CPTSD and, I’d say, a deep understanding of this condition, so if you’d ever like some feedback or input, I’d be happy to provide it

[Have at ye]

@Shannon I believe I read somewhere recently that you were working on PRAv3, and I also remember you saying that it would be specifically designed for CPTSD. I have both a lot of lived experience with CPTSD and, I’d say, a deep understanding of this condition, so if you’d ever like some feedback or input, I’d be happy to provide it

I'm currently running PRA v2c and it's great, but I'll definitely be buying v3 as well and running that when the time comes, with all the imprvements.