Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol.9

[Shannon]

Here's a quick rundown:



MLS 6G NFRM is a direct upgrade and optimization of the script of the previous version of MLS 5.75.4G, plus script upgrade to 6G standards and extensive optimizations, plus the addition of Bain Optimizer.  NFRM means it does not have the fear removal module.  I am contemplating making a version that does.

When are you planning to come out with it? I'm highly considering buying it. I don't know if I need FRM or not though. How much longer would it take for you to come out with FRM in it? Would it make a huge difference?



The better I can learn how to code in python for data analytics and learn statistics will help me get a better job.

I am working on the usage patterns for NFRM variant now.  Hope to publish in a day or two.  I can make and publish the script with FRM  in a week, probably. But, I am also seriously slammed with other stuff I need to do, so my plan is to publish this and then focus on AM7 for the rest of the month.  I also have to put in some work on GPR v2, PTSD Recovery Aid v2, and at least one experimental.  I have 95% of the month allocated to AM7.   So if you want it with FRM, that may be 2-3+ months down the line.

For someone who needs FRM, it will make a big difference.  But... if you don't, FRM tends to producedistraction from the primary goal.  That's why I'm doing NFRM first, and waiting for feedback and requests for the FRM variant.

[Shannon]

Shannon, I’m stonewalling UMS 6g. I’ve gone from a relatively high motivation to absolutely zero motivation. I’m spending all of my time in leisure with no motivation to think about finances. Previously I was thinking and learning about economy and finance, and I was building a business using AI, but it has all disappeared. I’m currently in phase 3 of my second run. How should I address it?

I see two options:
1. Keep going.
2. Keep going but change volume/loops/format.

What should I do?

Alright, so on stage 3 of Run #2 and you're reaching a point of shutdown.  It is best under those conditions - for anyone experiencing this while using Ultrasonic format - to do the following to break through it:

1.  Switch to Hybrid format.
2. Change your volume to 7/15 (Android) or 8/16 (iPhone), through the cell phone's speakers, and within arm's reach.  For Android phones with more or less than 15 clicks of volume or other phones with a different number of clicks of volume, your volume goals here is as close as you can get the volume to 47% of maximum volume.

[Shannon]

If you have Major Depressive Disorder, I would think that you'd want to find a solution to that.  At this time, the best option for that will be PTSD Recovery Aid, using the CPTSD instructions.  EHPRA + DRS `6G is a good choice, but you're not going to get results if you aren't using it.  If you stop using it, I suggest you go back and do another run-through after a month off if you don't want to get PRA v1.

I don't know how you would expect to get results from something like X4A-2600 or US 5.11G if you are dealing with MDD.  But I suppose boredom isn't hel;ping.

MLS 6G will be released in January 2026.  Ultra Success will be updated sometime after AM7 gets finished.  AM7 is my next focus.

Hi @Shannon , I started my 2nd Run of EHPRA + DRS 6G on December 7, 2025 and I'm still using it.

Ultra Success was on my mind because I read the USLM description page that you built USLM when you were depressed to help you build better subs.

So my rationale is if you used Ultra Success with LM during your past depression, then the latest Ultra Success with a revamped script would help me get through my MDD to go after my goals.

That is possible, but unlikely.  Most causes of depression will not respond that way.

But I can stick with EHPRA + DRS now until this 2nd Run is done in a month since my depression score is now lower compared to before per my therapist. 

I do find EHPRA + DRS working, especially the DRS.

My mentioning X4A-2600 is a sign of resistance that I now know is a distraction from my priority, therefore, I'm not getting it.

If your depression score is lower, definitely stick to PRA v1, at least until you are done with the current run-through.

[Shannon]

If I want to run another PTSDRA run right after my current one, should I take a 1-2 week break, or just keep going like normal?

What are you currently running?

[Shannon]

Hi Shannon,

I have two questions and would really appreciate your guidance when you have a moment.

https://subliminal-shop.com/collections/...ss-v3-1-6g

Instructions say for - Ultimate Monetary Success v3.1 Stage 1 of 4 (6G)

Run stages 1, 2 and 3 for as close as possible to one month of whole usage cycles.  Then run Stage 4 for 3 months of whole usage cycles.  This is one full run-through.  If after one run-through you have not yet achieved your definition of ultimate monetary success, you may choose to go for another run-through."


Question 1 – Clarification on Ultimate Monetary Success v3.1 (6G) Stages

I recently re-read the instructions for Ultimate Monetary Success v3.1 – Stage 1 of 4 (6G),
and I just want to make sure I fully understand the correct way to use it.

Here’s what I’ve done so far:
Around July 1, 2025, I started Stage 1 and ran it for about one month
Around August 1, I moved on to Stage 2
September was Stage 3
October was Stage 4
So in total, I completed Stages 1 through 4 over roughly four months. After that, I took a break during November and December. Now, I’m planning to restart Stage 1 around January 2026.

My question is: Did I follow the stages correctly, or should it be done differently?

The reason I’m unsure is because the instructions say:
“Run stages 1, 2 and 3 for as close as possible to one month of whole usage cycles. Then run Stage 4 for 3 months of whole usage cycles. This is one full run-through.”

If that’s the case, then one full run-through would be about six months total, rather than four. I just want to confirm whether my understanding is correct and make sure I’m using the program as intended before starting again.

Because is sound like
each stage get one month of listening but only stage 4 get 3 months of listening... is that what  is instructed?



Question 2 – CM (5.11G Type A/B/C/D) and Use for a Child

https://subliminal-shop.com/products/cm-...ed3b&_ss=r

Q: Can this experience be used to help parents calm children down, deal with anxiety or or put them to sleep?

A: The design of the script allows it to be effective for children as well as adults, although how young it will affect is not certain.  However, child-specific settings have not been calculated, so you may need to experiment.  Those tests that have been done with children have done show that children may be affected by very different settings than are ideal for adults, and the effects may require consideration of the child's personality.  Also remember that for children, more is not necessarily better.  So it can be used to help children also, but exactly how it should be used to do so isn't certain yet.  If you would like to try to use it for your children, start off with the settings specified for the intended use, and then assess whether it is effective while they are exposed or possibly after it finishes playing and starts blooming (purely executing, instead of the input-decode-process-execute cycle that will be going on while it is playing).  From there you can make adjustments.  If there is enough need for it, we will calculate specific usage patterns for children.  Let us know on the forum how it affects your children, and if you think child-specific usage patterns are necessary.


I also had a question regarding the CM (5.11G – Type A/B/C/D) program.

I noticed in the FAQ that this program can potentially be used with children, and I was hoping you could check with Shannon to see if it might be appropriate for my situation.

I have a 6-year-old son. He speaks English very well, understands conversations easily, and is very sharp. At the beginning of the school year (around August 2025), there was an incident during the first week of school where he and another student accidentally got locked inside a boys’ restroom. They were stuck for about 15 minutes until a teacher came and opened the door.

While it may have seemed like a small incident at the time, since then he has developed a strong fear of being alone or being locked in. For example:
He wants the shower door left open while he showers
He gets anxious if a car door is closed while he’s inside waiting
He panics if he wakes up and doesn’t immediately see us nearby
etc... etc... etc

This fear has been quite challenging for him (and for us), and I’m wondering if this program might help with anxiety related to that experience.
Would it be okay to try this program with him in a very gentle way—for example, turning it on at bedtime and listening together until he falls asleep, just to see if it helps?

If CM isn’t recommended for this situation, are there any other programs that are more suitable for children and could help with anxiety or fear stemming from an experience like this? Or any other resources you might suggest?

Thank you so much for your time and help, I truly appreciate it .

Thank You,

Did Ben not transmit the answers I gave for these questions?

[Frosted]

If I want to run another PTSDRA run right after my current one, should I take a 1-2 week break, or just keep going like normal?

What are you currently running?

PTSDRA with regular PTSD instructions. I'm a little over half way through.

[AbundanceCH]

Is the maverick sales page written anywhere? I wanted to read it again as I am getting the urge to maybe buy it.

[callie]

There is a category of trauma often referred to as developmental or attachment trauma. It typically forms very early in life, often beginning in the pre verbal stage and is relational in nature. It commonly involves chronic abandonment, neglect or misattunement by caregivers rather than discrete traumatic events. This type of trauma is often discussed as particularly complex and as having different underlying dynamics than classic event based PTSD

This type of trauma cluster is usually framed under CPTSD, but Im not sure how CPTSD is being defined within PRA. My question is whether PRA is intended to address this kind of early, attachment based trauma as well, or if it is primarily focused on more traditional forms of PTSD? @Shannon

[Frosted]

@Shannon I can't find the newer AM7 suggestion thread so I'll post this here.

I'm not sure if AM6 was like this, or I just wasn't fully executing due to trauma, but just in case I'll mention this. It's like I was developing the roots, but no tree. I seemed to have been using frame defensively, focusing on my freedom, rather than my dominance (not dominance as in dominating people, but just the archetypal energy). For example instead of engaging with the world, I would withdraw when it didn't suit me. To an extent I think this can be great, but I think it should be balanced with external mastery. After all there's nothing to give up if you haven't climbed the mountain first. I think both are essential. If I had to pick one over the other, I'd pick internal every time, but if possible I'd rather have a balance of both. Life is meant to be lived, after all.

Btw if you ever have any questions feel free to ask me or the community here. I'm sure anyone who's ran AM6 would love to give feedback.

[Shannon]

What are you currently running?

PTSDRA with regular PTSD instructions. I'm a little over half way through.

Youshould only take a break if you think your subconscious needs a break, is getting bored, etc.  Otherwise, keep going immediately, so the effects don't have a chance to backslide at all.

[Shannon]

Is the maverick sales page written anywhere? I wanted to read it again as I am getting the urge to maybe buy it.

I will put it up for a short period of time to allow for anyone who currently wishes to purchase to do so.  But this is probably going to be the final time that it is available for purchase.

Itis live.  For a short period of time.  Anyone wants to buy it, get it now... because it's going away forever soon.

[Shannon]

There is a category of trauma often referred to as developmental or attachment trauma. It typically forms very early in life, often beginning in the pre verbal stage and is relational in nature. It commonly involves chronic abandonment, neglect or misattunement by caregivers rather than discrete traumatic events. This type of trauma is often discussed as particularly complex and as having different underlying dynamics than classic event based PTSD

This type of trauma cluster is usually framed under CPTSD, but Im not sure how CPTSD is being defined within PRA. My question is whether PRA is intended to address this kind of early, attachment based trauma as well, or if it is primarily focused on more traditional forms of PTSD? @Shannon

My approach is not to define PTSD or CPTSD within the script, but create a generalized framework within which both can be approached and helped, with the differentiating factor being usage patterns in Version 1. Version 2 will be designed more specifically for CPTSD.

The design of PRA v1 is aimed at being able to work with any level of trauma at any level of awareness within  the brain/mind interface.  However, I concur that working with such early traumas is very challenging, as the awarenesses in play are verylimited in their perceptual and comprehensive capacity and awareness.  They tend to be purely emotional and instinctual in nature, the balance and focus being dependent on personality type.  

My girlfriend has traumas from 0-5 years old and then others from later.  She reports that she is getting results from PRA v1, although as expected, progress is slow, since the program is going at the pace she can handle.  But I have seen dramatic improvement in how she handles frustration and stressors since she started using this program.

Hope this helps.

V2 is going to be much more comprehensive and much more intricately detailed in what it does and can do, and how it approaches the process of trauma healing.

[4Kingdoms]

Maverick is live.  For a short period of time.  
Anyone wants to buy it, get it now... because it's going away forever soon.

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Maverick (5.9G - Premium - Type A/B/C/D)
https://subliminal-shop.com/products/mav...a0c2&_ss=r

[NOMAD]

@Shannon

Please consider the use of auras and energy flooding in more subs going forward. I never accomplished the goals of DMSI (last version used was 3.2, I think), but the celebrity vibe was nice. I suspect the aura was a large part of why I executed Maverick well. I suspect the same thing for PM. And PRA as well (see Frosted's journal for more on that).

Between bathing/saturating the user in the appropriate energy and the feedback loop created by exposing others to that energy, it seems like the perfect one/two punch. I consciously see the effects in other people, so there's no doubt that my subconscious is picking up on that as well. And that suggests to me that this feedback loop is reinforcing the script.

 I would probably never run an aura only sub like XA-(number), but I'm very interested in subs that have aura scripting to support the primary goal.

Also,  if you choose to do this, please be transparent in the writeup. I had never considered running PRA until you acknowledged it had aura of love scripting (here on the forum). At that point, things in Frosted's journal made sense to me and I pulled the trigger. I probably would have run it sooner if the writeup was more forthcoming.