Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol.9

[Have at ye]

This level of anxiety and responses to it is an indication that you need to seek professional help before you worry about running my programs.  Once you have professional help, then come see me.  Until then, it would be wrong for me to recommend you use either of those.  I am not professionally qualified to be who you rely on for anxiety levels that high without having professional help taken care of first.

Thanks for the reply Shannon.

I understand and do not expect any further replies. Just for the sake of clarity regarding what is already going on, I did seek professional help. The closing words of the first specialist were “Stop stressing and be present,” and the other said, “Stay on the pills”. The pills do work as long as I take them, but they also give me a lot of side effects (which the doctors are aware of and seem to not care). I am now at a point where I either need to figure this out myself or travel abroad to seek help from other reputable specialists.

I would recommend looking for a specialist who believes more in proper psychotherapy than pills (but is not pill-averse, since you seem to need them) and attempt that. Then inform them you're gonna use a sub (I informed mine - she's still taken aback by the fact, but otherwise hasn't told me to *stop*, heh  ) and from the available ones, I'd go for PTRA and see how that works.

If you were my countryman, I could give you some recommendations as to psychotherapists, but failing that, you can consult the Internet or seek out local peer support groups of people with similar issues and ask them for recommendations (say you want psychotherapy that's more involved than platitudes. Start out with CBT, then go deeper - psychodnamyic/psychonalaytic).

[racktree]

Thanks for the reply Shannon.



I understand and do not expect any further replies. Just for the sake of clarity regarding what is already going on, I did seek professional help. The closing words of the first specialist were “Stop stressing and be present,” and the other said, “Stay on the pills”. The pills do work as long as I take them, but they also give me a lot of side effects (which the doctors are aware of and seem to not care). I am now at a point where I either need to figure this out myself or travel abroad to seek help from other reputable specialists.

I would recommend looking for a specialist who believes more in proper psychotherapy than pills (but is not pill-averse, since you seem to need them) and attempt that. Then inform them you're gonna use a sub (I informed mine - she's still taken aback by the fact, but otherwise hasn't told me to *stop*, heh  ) and from the available ones, I'd go for PTRA and see how that works.



If you were my countryman, I could give you some recommendations as to psychotherapists, but failing that, you can consult the Internet or seek out local peer support groups of people with similar issues and ask them for recommendations (say you want psychotherapy that's more involved than platitudes. Start out with CBT, then go deeper - psychodnamyic/psychonalaytic).

Thanks for the advice.

I am currently working on myself using CBT and hypnosis. I also had a few sessions with a hypnotherapist.
I will definitely try to find someone in the medical field who can help, but until then, I am going to use any support that may help, including subliminal programs or other practices. I have managed to stabilize myself without needing medication, but it takes me an extra 1–2 hours each day to do so (breathing exercises, guided visualization, and others).

Edit:
Ahh I apologize for spamming this journal with my personal stuff. Thanks for the help everyone, I really appreciate it.

[Sky]

Thank you for the information, Shannon. I'll push through.

If the lack of motivation lasts more than a month straight, it is often helpful to take a break from the program and use something else for a while.

Got it. Thanks, Shannon.

[NOMAD]

@Shannon

Stage 0 looks really good. Ultra Success is another sub i really enjoyed, and I hoped you'd infuse it into AM7. Very nice!

I'm tempted to run it the full four months.

Will the Stage 0 through 7 pre-order page be ready today?

I don't know.  That will depend on how long I sleep, when I finally do.  I's 6:25 am here and I have been working literally all day and all night.  I also need a break.  Between how hard I have been piushing myself and being sick I need some time to rest.  So probably betwen 1 and 5 days.

Do I have the option of purchasing Stage 0 as a stand alone, then purchasing stages 1 through 7 together while applying the discount? I'd like to start running Stage 0 this Friday.

[Rois83]

Hi Shannon,

Does mono or stereo matters? I know it used to matter long time ago and I know people who are using mono.

Do you think hipnosis could help someone to reduce the resistance to your subs? If so, are the any affirmations or messages you would recommend?

Thank you!

[Sky]

I honestly am sad I can't run AM7 right away, but I will patiently wait to do it once I'm done with MLS for my job.

[Have at ye]

Just had a thought for a potential addition for PTRA v. 2:

Auto-training for assertiveness and boundary-setting. Necessary for PTSD-people. I can see it happenning in me automatically due to OGSF, but just had a dream during the PTRA/DMSI transitory period that did something like it (so maybe it's in there already, but thought I'd share).

[Have at ye]

Stage 0 of Am7 really has... all that stuff? PTSD Rec Aid v. 1 in full + Ultra Success and Prmial Masculinity and all the other goodies? OH BOY.

Now I'm considering whether to try it in lieu of PTSD Rec Aid v. 1 stand-alone after my current DMSI 5.1 run.

This is going to make a great stand-alone program, not just for people who are planning to go for the full AM7 treatment, I think!

[Frosted]

Shannon is best to answer the first question. What is the extent of the anxiety so that he has more information?

But for the second, $650 a stage as Stage 0 is.

Thanks Benjamin.

The last few months (since November), my anxiety has shot up from what had been my constant for years, around 3 to 4 out of 10, to sometimes even 8 to 9 out 10. I manage to lower it in the moment with various practices, but it’s taking too much time, energy, and effort. When I stop the practices or get busy with other obligations, it comes back full-blown. I’m not even sure if I’m making any real progress.

On a physical level, I started noticing indigestion, hair loss, and difficulty breathing. These symptoms also occur during the day while I’m alone working in the office without any stressors, which makes me think it might be more than just social anxiety disorder. Unfortunately, I haven’t been able to find the right specialists to give me a full picture. I had my hormones and some other possible causes checked, and the results came back normal.

I actually was in a place where I was having 9-10/10 panic attacks daily basically every day for a very long time. Sticking to the latest version of EPHRA and OGSF were what helped the most. I heavily recommend PRA as someone who went through extreme lifelong anxiety and came out the other side. I'm not Shannon or a doctor, just a fellow peer who went through something similar. It took me years to get better (and I had tons of doubts throughout), but I did get better and it was more than worth it.

[racktree]

Thanks Benjamin.

The last few months (since November), my anxiety has shot up from what had been my constant for years, around 3 to 4 out of 10, to sometimes even 8 to 9 out 10. I manage to lower it in the moment with various practices, but it’s taking too much time, energy, and effort. When I stop the practices or get busy with other obligations, it comes back full-blown. I’m not even sure if I’m making any real progress.

On a physical level, I started noticing indigestion, hair loss, and difficulty breathing. These symptoms also occur during the day while I’m alone working in the office without any stressors, which makes me think it might be more than just social anxiety disorder. Unfortunately, I haven’t been able to find the right specialists to give me a full picture. I had my hormones and some other possible causes checked, and the results came back normal.

I actually was in a place where I was having 9-10/10 panic attacks daily basically every day for a very long time. Sticking to the latest version of EPHRA and OGSF were what helped the most. I heavily recommend PRA as someone who went through extreme lifelong anxiety and came out the other side. I'm not Shannon or a doctor, just a fellow peer who went through something similar. It took me years to get better (and I had tons of doubts throughout), but I did get better and it was more than worth it.

Thanks for your input. I used Anxiety Relief Aid 5.5G years ago, and it helped me. I was planning to restart it, and I found out there’s a 5.75G version, so I started with that one instead. As Have at ye mentioned, we might get 6G as well, so until then I’ll stick with the 5.75G. The thing is, I used it for the first time last night, and I woke up calmer than I have on most mornings over the past few months. Time will tell.

[Frosted]

I actually was in a place where I was having 9-10/10 panic attacks daily basically every day for a very long time. Sticking to the latest version of EPHRA and OGSF were what helped the most. I heavily recommend PRA as someone who went through extreme lifelong anxiety and came out the other side. I'm not Shannon or a doctor, just a fellow peer who went through something similar. It took me years to get better (and I had tons of doubts throughout), but I did get better and it was more than worth it.

Thanks for your input. I used Anxiety Relief Aid 5.5G years ago, and it helped me. I was planning to restart it, and I found out there’s a 5.75G version, so I started with that one instead. As Have at ye mentioned, we might get 6G as well, so until then I’ll stick with the 5.75G. The thing is, I used it for the first time last night, and I woke up calmer than I have on most mornings over the past few months. Time will tell.

5.75g is still good, but I definitely recommend getting your hands on PRA or barring that, either OGSF or EPHRA 6G, since the better the technology the faster you'll get results and the better they will be. Good luck and hope your anxiety gets better!

[tolgaocal80]

Just send the email from website for a 50 percent off, after 10 or more years, let the AM journey begin

[Qiel]

Just send the email from website for a 50 percent off, after 10 or more years, let the AM journey begin 

Ngl the saleapage of stage 0 is super intriguing. I'll skip DMSI 5.2 and join the AM 7 train stage 0 soon. I'm totally curious what Primal Masculinity and the gang brintlg to the table. Hope to see your journal soon.

[Shannon]

I actually was in a place where I was having 9-10/10 panic attacks daily basically every day for a very long time. Sticking to the latest version of EPHRA and OGSF were what helped the most. I heavily recommend PRA as someone who went through extreme lifelong anxiety and came out the other side. I'm not Shannon or a doctor, just a fellow peer who went through something similar. It took me years to get better (and I had tons of doubts throughout), but I did get better and it was more than worth it.

Thanks for your input. I used Anxiety Relief Aid 5.5G years ago, and it helped me. I was planning to restart it, and I found out there’s a 5.75G version, so I started with that one instead. As Have at ye mentioned, we might get 6G as well, so until then I’ll stick with the 5.75G. The thing is, I used it for the first time last night, and I woke up calmer than I have on most mornings over the past few months. Time will tell.

If you're going to use one of my subliminals, and you've already tried going the professional route, then in your shoes what I would do is get a copy of or a subscription to PRA v1 and work with that.

It's not always fun or easy, but it does work.  It's gonna be a bit until I can finish v2.