Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 8

[dragonslayer]

Sorry ? My question is: do I really need to take a break between Optimal Self-Confidence and X4A-1600 6G, or is it okay to continue if I can handle the turbulence, heck I'll even report on it as I will run my last Optimal Self Confidence loop today.

Also, how do you choose your testers for the experimental subs?

I don't know what turbulence is like for 6G.  Have not experienced it.  I suspect it will not be necessary to take a break, but if you don't take a break, please report any turbulence effects that you get.

Hi @Shannon , would this non-necessary break be only between 6G subs and not from, say, LTUV6 5.75G to OGSFV3 6G?

I’m planning to run OGSFV3 6G through subscription as well after my full runthough of LTUV6 5.75G is done next Tuesday, April 22nd, and will report any turbulence effects that I would get.

I don’t think I’ve ever experienced turbulence from your subs because I’ve been keeping the 1 - 2 week breaks.

[dweller94]

In what sense?

In my understanding from the quote I sent, if a person or a group of people does not pay a fair price, it is now considered piracy (e.g., group buying, exchanging your audio for personal gain, or purchasing your paid program on the black market).

Does this mean that the primary functionality of your paid 6G subs is degraded, reduced, limited, crippled, or removed, as stated on the OSC sales page?

Even if the individual is unaware that your 6G subs includes an anti-piracy script?

I can share my story from back in early 2015. I first discovered AM6 through a forum, before I even knew about IML. Yes, it was free. During the first week of using it, somehow—almost as if I was guided—I ended up finding this forum and eventually purchased the program.

Buying AM6 turned out to be one of the best decisions I’ve made; it did wonders for me. I remember feeling a strong urge or push at the time to really look into what I was using. I can’t recall the details exactly.

[Have at ye]

@Shannon

Just thinking back to my early days on DMSI—there was this one girl who only ever popped up when I was running a specific version. I’m pretty sure it was the one with the long-range sniper script, which made sense since she lived quite far away. That was one of many moments where I saw what DMSI could really do with barely any effort on my part. All I did was run it and stay consistent. F*cked it up like I do with most things that come my way =D

So enough with the waffling—will it still get the snipers again, or am I right in thinking that, with it being 6G now, it doesn’t matter?

Snipers weren't there because it was built in 5.xxG.  They were there to give you more options for how to make the program work.  As to whether they'll be making a come back, that will depend on variables I do not know the values of yet.  They require enough energy, and if that energy is not there, then they are not appropriate.  But I can't even model this with sufficient accuracy until the program is built.

For me, DMSI without at least the Short-Range Sniper wouldn't be the same program at all, heh. In my experience tt was one of its most effective functions.

[Shannon]

I don't know what turbulence is like for 6G.  Have not experienced it.  I suspect it will not be necessary to take a break, but if you don't take a break, please report any turbulence effects that you get.

Okay!
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I have another question about the following:

"A: X4A-1600 is designed to specifically affect those three people of legal age of sexual consent who are within your line of sight and with whom you most want to have sex.  If for some reason others do respond, you will have to deal with the effects of being exceptionally attractive sexually, just as anyone else who is exceptionally sexually attractive does, and let them know you're not interested.

A: It will specifically affect the three people within your line of sight, who are at least the minimum legal age of sexual consent, with whom you most consciously and subconsciously want to have physical sex.

It will also affect those who spend enough time physically within your personal energy field, according to the limiters in the program."

Are there limiters in place to prevent any unwanted effects on immediate family members, cousins, or others I don't want to be affected by this? I know this might seem like an odd question, but considering it’s 6G, I need to ensure it doesn’t impact those I consider "undesirables," particularly those I have no attraction towards. Just want to add, I’ve never had any issues like this with any attraction subs of yours in the past. What do the limiters encompass?

The limiters are the exact same in 1600 as in 1511 and 1000.  They have not changed.  If you haven't had issues in the past, then you should not have issues now.  But there are limiters specifically designed to prevent incestuous responses, responses from people who are effectively drunk, and people who are under the legal age of sexual consent.  If for some reason they do respond, just shut them down hard and end it there.

[Shannon]

In what sense?

In my understanding from the quote I sent, if a person or a group of people does not pay a fair price, it is now considered piracy (e.g., group buying, exchanging your audio for personal gain, or purchasing your paid program on the black market).



Does this mean that the primary functionality of your paid 6G subs is degraded, reduced, limited, crippled, or removed, as stated on the OSC sales page?



Even if the individual is unaware that your 6G subs includes an anti-piracy script?

The OSC product description page states that there is no anti-piracy scripting in OSC.  That is to make sure that anyone can use it without triggering the APS.  

The anti-piracy measures my approach takes are triggered by piracy, which is an unequal exchange of value.  The value per user that I ask for a copy is what the price is to purchase; and to use a program temporarily it is to subscribe.  Outside of fair use, gaining value from or having a copy of that program is piracy if the price has not been paid.

Fair use would be, I buy a copy for myself, and my wife wants to get benefit, so she sticks around while I listen to my loops.  Piracy would be, one or both of us as a copy and or uses a copy, without having paid for it.  The exception there is, one of us can have and use it without having paid for it, if someone who has paid for it and rightfully owns it gives that ownership over to one of us and then deletes all of their copies.

To have a copy without having paid for it otherwise is piracy.  Group buys are piracy because one price is paid, but more than one person thereafter has and or uses and benefits from it. 

One copy is paid for, one person owns that copy, and only they have the right thereafter to have, make backups of, and use that copy.  So if I buy a copy, and I for some reason have to use it at 10 am, and my wife happens to be out working, and then she comes home and uses my copy, she is committing piracy because that's not fair use, and I am committing piracy by allowing her to do this.  She does not own that copy, and has no right to use it when she sees fit.  She can only legally benefit from it while I am using my copy.

Giving her a copy would be piracy.  Her having and accepting that copy, even if she doesn't use it, is piracy.  To prevent that, I would either buy her a gift certificate, give it to her and let her get herself a copy with it, or she could buy herself a copy.

Sharing, selling, renting, distributing, and enabling others to do any of these things by your actions or lack of actions, is also piracy.  So uploading a copy to a server where you know others will have access to it and download it will be piracy.  You must do your due diligence to safeguard your legal copy against piracy by others, including them copying it without your knowledge.  It's pretty easy to lock your phone these days, and store files in ways that are secure enough to prevent that.

When you or someone else benefits from my work, and I do not get reimbursed fully for what I have set the price to be, then there is an imbalance of value exchange, and piracy takes place.  The only exceptions are:

A) Fair use.  You use your program and you allow others to be exposed at the same time you are using your copy for yourself.
B) Transfer of ownership. If I am not wanting my copy of Program X anymore, I can give it to someone else, and then delete all of my copies and backups of it, relinquish ownership and they can take ownership and use it as their own properly.  You cannot trade for it, sell it or otherwise gain from transferring ownership of that copy to anyone else.

[Shannon]

I don't know what turbulence is like for 6G.  Have not experienced it.  I suspect it will not be necessary to take a break, but if you don't take a break, please report any turbulence effects that you get.

Hi @Shannon , would this non-necessary break be only between 6G subs and not from, say, LTUV6 5.75G to OGSFV3 6G?

I’m planning to run OGSFV3 6G through subscription as well after my full runthough of LTUV6 5.75G is done next Tuesday, April 22nd, and will report any turbulence effects that I would get.

I don’t think I’ve ever experienced turbulence from your subs because I’ve been keeping the 1 - 2 week breaks.

6G will wipe the floor with 5.xG and earlier.  It will dominate it immediately.  Again, I don't know what turbulence you might get, but I would take a break between anything 5G and up if you wanted to be sure that there was no turbulence.

[Shannon]

Snipers weren't there because it was built in 5.xxG.  They were there to give you more options for how to make the program work.  As to whether they'll be making a come back, that will depend on variables I do not know the values of yet.  They require enough energy, and if that energy is not there, then they are not appropriate.  But I can't even model this with sufficient accuracy until the program is built.

For me, DMSI without at least the Short-Range Sniper wouldn't be the same program at all, heh. In my experience tt was one of its most effective functions.

DMSI without at least a short range sniper wouldn't be the program it was designed to be.  That's pretty unlikely to be removed.  Long range sniper, however, is not certain.

[Frosted]

@Shannon Is the healing/clearing partially due to the scripting of the experimental or is it 100% because of 6G? I want to know if I don’t have to worry about healing/clearing as much before I move onto my other goals. I’m sure there’s still benefits to focus on healing/clearing even if you can still get there without directly focusing on it.

The primary goal of the experimental currently in testing has NO relation to healing and clearing.  There is NO such scripting.  It has NO fear removal module.  This is entirely the 6G skeleton script doing what is necessary to achieve the goals delineated in the Key Script.

This effect will show up when there is something in the way of achieving the goals of the Key Script.  For example, if you're running X4A-1600 and there are issues that are working against it, the program will start working on resolving those issues in order to be able to fully execute.  Healing and clearing only shows up (in titles that don't have healing and clearing as a goal) if and when it is necessary to achieve the goals of the Key Script.

So basically people might not have to focus on healing and clearing subs first if they really want to run a certain sub? That’s sick, because having to run OGSF and EPHRA until fully healed before running other subs would be a chore. I was feeling like I might have to buckle down for a few years with healing/clearing since I didn’t want to be inefficient and risk wasting valuable time.

Don’t get me wrong I’m all for focusing on the basics, but I don’t want to feel like I have to fully heal/clear before doing anything or risk inefficiency or mediocre results.

[Shannon]

The primary goal of the experimental currently in testing has NO relation to healing and clearing.  There is NO such scripting.  It has NO fear removal module.  This is entirely the 6G skeleton script doing what is necessary to achieve the goals delineated in the Key Script.

This effect will show up when there is something in the way of achieving the goals of the Key Script.  For example, if you're running X4A-1600 and there are issues that are working against it, the program will start working on resolving those issues in order to be able to fully execute.  Healing and clearing only shows up (in titles that don't have healing and clearing as a goal) if and when it is necessary to achieve the goals of the Key Script.

So basically people might not have to focus on healing and clearing subs first if they really want to run a certain sub? That’s sick, because having to run OGSF and EPHRA until fully healed before running other subs would be a chore. I was feeling like I might have to buckle down for a few years with healing/clearing since I didn’t want to be inefficient and risk wasting valuable time.

6G is designed to get to it's goal however it takes.  If that means healing and clearing, then that's what it will do to unlock what it's going for.

That said... a program designed for healing& clearing will still give you superior results, because it will make that process easier to handle.  I am dealing with a very, very unhappy inner child right now, who seems to be at about the lower limits of human awareness - close to birth - and all he seems to understand is that he's uncomfortable and wants to just hide.  As a result, I am constantly feeling his discomfort emotionally and struggling my ass off to be productive while this process is being worked through.  If this were being done through OGSF or EHPRA, it would almost certainly be easier.

6G will get to the goal, it seems, but saving time will also cost you in other ways.

[Have at ye]

For me, DMSI without at least the Short-Range Sniper wouldn't be the same program at all, heh. In my experience tt was one of its most effective functions.

DMSI without at least a short range sniper wouldn't be the program it was designed to be.  That's pretty unlikely to be removed.  Long range sniper, however, is not certain.

That's good to hear, I was worried there for a moment.

As to anti-piracy scripting - so, the way I understand it, it would be on the up-and-up if, f. in., I deleted all of my copies of older programs (f. in. 5.11G OGSF, or EPHRA) and then gave them away to someone? An interesting notion, if it's fine I might just do that.

[Shannon]

DMSI without at least a short range sniper wouldn't be the program it was designed to be.  That's pretty unlikely to be removed.  Long range sniper, however, is not certain.

That's good to hear, I was worried there for a moment.

As to anti-piracy scripting - so, the way I understand it, it would be on the up-and-up if, f. in., I deleted all of my copies of older programs (f. in. 5.11G OGSF, or EPHRA) and then gave them away to someone? An interesting notion, if it's fine I might just do that.

You must give them away, and remove all of your own copies and backups completely, and relinquish ownership of those titles completely.  But that is perfectly acceptable, because one copy was paid for and one copy is benefiting and owned by one person.

[MagicalAlchemist]

In my understanding from the quote I sent, if a person or a group of people does not pay a fair price, it is now considered piracy (e.g., group buying, exchanging your audio for personal gain, or purchasing your paid program on the black market).



Does this mean that the primary functionality of your paid 6G subs is degraded, reduced, limited, crippled, or removed, as stated on the OSC sales page?



Even if the individual is unaware that your 6G subs includes an anti-piracy script?

The OSC product description page states that there is no anti-piracy scripting in OSC.  That is to make sure that anyone can use it without triggering the APS.  

The anti-piracy measures my approach takes are triggered by piracy, which is an unequal exchange of value.  The value per user that I ask for a copy is what the price is to purchase; and to use a program temporarily it is to subscribe.  Outside of fair use, gaining value from or having a copy of that program is piracy if the price has not been paid.

Fair use would be, I buy a copy for myself, and my wife wants to get benefit, so she sticks around while I listen to my loops.  Piracy would be, one or both of us as a copy and or uses a copy, without having paid for it.  The exception there is, one of us can have and use it without having paid for it, if someone who has paid for it and rightfully owns it gives that ownership over to one of us and then deletes all of their copies.

To have a copy without having paid for it otherwise is piracy.  Group buys are piracy because one price is paid, but more than one person thereafter has and or uses and benefits from it. 

One copy is paid for, one person owns that copy, and only they have the right thereafter to have, make backups of, and use that copy.  So if I buy a copy, and I for some reason have to use it at 10 am, and my wife happens to be out working, and then she comes home and uses my copy, she is committing piracy because that's not fair use, and I am committing piracy by allowing her to do this.  She does not own that copy, and has no right to use it when she sees fit.  She can only legally benefit from it while I am using my copy.

Giving her a copy would be piracy.  Her having and accepting that copy, even if she doesn't use it, is piracy.  To prevent that, I would either buy her a gift certificate, give it to her and let her get herself a copy with it, or she could buy herself a copy.

Sharing, selling, renting, distributing, and enabling others to do any of these things by your actions or lack of actions, is also piracy.  So uploading a copy to a server where you know others will have access to it and download it will be piracy.  You must do your due diligence to safeguard your legal copy against piracy by others, including them copying it without your knowledge.  It's pretty easy to lock your phone these days, and store files in ways that are secure enough to prevent that.

When you or someone else benefits from my work, and I do not get reimbursed fully for what I have set the price to be, then there is an imbalance of value exchange, and piracy takes place.  The only exceptions are:

A) Fair use.  You use your program and you allow others to be exposed at the same time you are using your copy for yourself.
B) Transfer of ownership. If I am not wanting my copy of Program X anymore, I can give it to someone else, and then delete all of my copies and backups of it, relinquish ownership and they can take ownership and use it as their own properly.  You cannot trade for it, sell it or otherwise gain from transferring ownership of that copy to anyone else.

Thank you for the detailed explanation of the technical aspects and functioning of APS. You can include this in the FAQ so that people will know about and be aware of APS.

However, you have not explained whether there are any side effects when some of these illegal users are affected by APS. And in the long run, what is the impact if someone continuously uses your 6G subliminal audio without paying a fair price (piracy)?

This is just my analysis regarding the impact on a user affected by APS, so please correct me:

1. The 6G subliminal still works, but the results may be degraded, reduced, held back, crippled, or removed.

2. The person will feel uncomfortable when using your 6G subliminal audio in the long term and might decide to stop using it when APS is triggered.

3. The person justifies their act of piracy as a form of Robin Hood, because they convincing themselves and others that they remain unaffected by APS impact. As a result, even if APS is triggered, they and others do not experience any negative effects and only obtain positive outcomes.

4. They are completely unaware of APS and do not know what side effects APS can cause, and thus, they are not affected by APS at all.

5. APS only works by advising buyers to purchase your product legally at a fair price from your official store, but without causing any negative side effects or reducing any results.

[Zane]

@Shannon I want to inform you of something.

After listening to DMSI 3.2 In 2018 .. Every other Sub was working Flawlessly MLS-5.5G , UMOP-5.5G and USLM3-5.5G .

But after some very horrible events .. Something changed ..

When I would Listen to USLM-3,USLM-4.2, MLS-5.5, Aura of Love—— They stopped working on me . I mean they were working but depression,guilt , shame , fear were so much that I totally cut off myself from the world . As I knew I cannot be fixed..

I am not blaming IML subs cause how can I . They saved me when nothing worked before . Specially OF-5G and DMSI-3.2 .

This time I am on DMSI again and I am feeling better. No Antidepressants worked tbh .. Only DMSI is showing hopes of recovery .

As @Steve_ said that it’s somewhat like a mood booster . For me it’s more than that ..2018-2020 were heaven for me …

So I would request you so see what is it in DMSI that acts like a Happiness pill and makes you adventures and Confident .. there is something. I know FRM is off right now .. but still maybe you can put then into other subs .. so that some DMSI effects remain … I mean the Subs could be like —


Develop Maximum Success/Learning/Money Irresistibility

Please look into it ..

Btw I did Try EPRAH and tbh as I said it worked before the shit show ..but after that I just couldn’t continue listening to it …I guess my way of healing might be different. If you know this type of personality of mine then please share you wisdom .. I can tell you more in detail but I don’t wanna say it here ..

Sorry if I talk too much .. it’s just my situation and no one gets it .

[Shannon]

The OSC product description page states that there is no anti-piracy scripting in OSC.  That is to make sure that anyone can use it without triggering the APS.  



The anti-piracy measures my approach takes are triggered by piracy, which is an unequal exchange of value.  The value per user that I ask for a copy is what the price is to purchase; and to use a program temporarily it is to subscribe.  Outside of fair use, gaining value from or having a copy of that program is piracy if the price has not been paid.



Fair use would be, I buy a copy for myself, and my wife wants to get benefit, so she sticks around while I listen to my loops.  Piracy would be, one or both of us as a copy and or uses a copy, without having paid for it.  The exception there is, one of us can have and use it without having paid for it, if someone who has paid for it and rightfully owns it gives that ownership over to one of us and then deletes all of their copies.



To have a copy without having paid for it otherwise is piracy.  Group buys are piracy because one price is paid, but more than one person thereafter has and or uses and benefits from it. 



One copy is paid for, one person owns that copy, and only they have the right thereafter to have, make backups of, and use that copy.  So if I buy a copy, and I for some reason have to use it at 10 am, and my wife happens to be out working, and then she comes home and uses my copy, she is committing piracy because that's not fair use, and I am committing piracy by allowing her to do this.  She does not own that copy, and has no right to use it when she sees fit.  She can only legally benefit from it while I am using my copy.



Giving her a copy would be piracy.  Her having and accepting that copy, even if she doesn't use it, is piracy.  To prevent that, I would either buy her a gift certificate, give it to her and let her get herself a copy with it, or she could buy herself a copy.



Sharing, selling, renting, distributing, and enabling others to do any of these things by your actions or lack of actions, is also piracy.  So uploading a copy to a server where you know others will have access to it and download it will be piracy.  You must do your due diligence to safeguard your legal copy against piracy by others, including them copying it without your knowledge.  It's pretty easy to lock your phone these days, and store files in ways that are secure enough to prevent that.



When you or someone else benefits from my work, and I do not get reimbursed fully for what I have set the price to be, then there is an imbalance of value exchange, and piracy takes place.  The only exceptions are:



A) Fair use.  You use your program and you allow others to be exposed at the same time you are using your copy for yourself.

B) Transfer of ownership. If I am not wanting my copy of Program X anymore, I can give it to someone else, and then delete all of my copies and backups of it, relinquish ownership and they can take ownership and use it as their own properly.  You cannot trade for it, sell it or otherwise gain from transferring ownership of that copy to anyone else.

Thank you for the detailed explanation of the technical aspects and functioning of APS. You can include this in the FAQ so that people will know about and be aware of APS.



However, you have not explained whether there are any side effects when some of these illegal users are affected by APS. And in the long run, what is the impact if someone continuously uses your 6G subliminal audio without paying a fair price (piracy)?



This is just my analysis regarding the impact on a user affected by APS, so please correct me:



1. The 6G subliminal still works, but the results may be degraded, reduced, held back, crippled, or removed.



2. The person will feel uncomfortable when using your 6G subliminal audio in the long term and might decide to stop using it when APS is triggered.



3. The person justifies their act of piracy as a form of Robin Hood, because they convincing themselves and others that they remain unaffected by APS impact. As a result, even if APS is triggered, they and others do not experience any negative effects and only obtain positive outcomes.



4. They are completely unaware of APS and do not know what side effects APS can cause, and thus, they are not affected by APS at all.



5. APS only works by advising buyers to purchase your product legally at a fair price from your official store, but without causing any negative side effects or reducing any results.

Why all the interest in my anti-piracy approach?