Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 8

[RTBoss]

Thought I'd pop in and say "Hi!"

Been awhile.  Too long.  For those of you who have been wondering about where I've been, I wanted make a little post about that.
So, let's back up a bit:  

About a year after COVID hit, I was in a bad car fire.  I mentioned this on the forum, as I was then running OF, and I'm positive it helped me act to save myself.  Got banged up, but made it through alive.  The nasty part was the PTSD that followed.  High anxiety, depression, and a much greater alcohol intake.  I found myself withdrawing from a lot of the things I used to enjoy, including this forum.  Even so, I maintained contact with Shannon throughout, and he continues to be a very close personal friend to this day. Now, 3 years later, I have most of those issues handled.  Anxiety and depression are under control, and my alcohol use is greatly reduced.  I still slip here and there, but I'm happy to be where I'm at.  I'm also back to doing a lot of the things I value most.

Regarding IML and my continued involvement with it, here's a little tidbit that may surprise you: I have been helping Shannon out as a tester for years.  Furthermore, around late 2021 (or early 2022, I don't recall, exactly), I asked Shannon if he would create a custom single-stage for me.  I wanted it to be something useful for me, but a title that he could also sell through IML as well.  He agreed, and I ran it for months.  I had some really interesting results and experiences.  But, Shannon wanted additional feedback about the program, so I suggested he bring on Duke as a tester.  I've known Duke for several years and vouched for him.  Shannon thought about it, vetted Duke, and then accepted him as a tester. Duke ran my custom single-stage for a few months, and consequently came up with several very interesting and valuable insights. 
He even suggested a new name for that little-'ole-custom of mine:

Maverick.

I haven't been able to journal, because I'm often running something Shannon needs feedback on.  I could have been here sharing insights and feedback on your journals, or just chattin' everyone up, but I haven't, and I apologize for that.  I miss being active on the forum, and plan to be around and more involved in the future.

Hope you all are doing well, and I look forward to catching up with you!

RTB

[Have at ye]

Welcome back! Nice to see you online again.

[Topaz]

Hey not sure why SM3 early stage 2:
No time for women and if I go out I don't have success with them (I don't expect to have something in the first stages so that's ok)
I am just working a lot
And manifestating things that can help with my health condition and future income stability

To the point I have to ask why am I manifesting or working towards things of that nature instead of manifesting women?
Also I don't organize my apartment or car too much lol
But it's like it is driving me to be a very successful man in the future
Why?

I'm not complaining btw I like it.
But I really don't understand why it happens on SM3 which is a good surprise for me

[RTBoss]

Hey not sure why SM3 early stage 2:
No time for women and if I go out I don't have success with them (I don't expect to have something in the first stages so that's ok)
I am just working a lot
And manifestating things that can help with my health condition and future income stability

To the point I have to ask why am I manifesting or working towards things of that nature instead of manifesting women?
Also I don't organize my apartment or car too much lol
But it's like it is driving me to be a very successful man in the future
Why?

I'm not complaining btw I like it.
But I really don't understand why it happens on SM3 which is a good surprise for me

I have a good friend that get a lot of attention from the servers at Hooter's.  He's 55, 350+ lbs, and can't walk 100 feet without huffing and puffing.

But, he drives a Maserati and has a few million dollars, a great personality, and isn't shy.

Being successful won't hurt in the sex department.

[Shannon]

Hey not sure why SM3 early stage 2:
No time for women and if I go out I don't have success with them (I don't expect to have something in the first stages so that's ok)
I am just working a lot
And manifestating things that can help with my health condition and future income stability

To the point I have to ask why am I manifesting or working towards things of that nature instead of manifesting women?
Also I don't organize my apartment or car too much lol
But it's like it is driving me to be a very successful man in the future
Why?

I'm not complaining btw I like it.
But I really don't understand why it happens on SM3 which is a good surprise for me

It's part of your efforts to make yourself more universally sexually attractive to women.  The end result isn't always a straight shot.  One of the best ways to be sexually attractive to a woman is to be able to offer her security, and MONEY is how she most commonly understands that to be the case.  Not everyone has this response; it depends on your understanding of what makes a man sexually attractive.  But success and money will never be a bad way to get sexual attention from women.  Just have to weed out the ones who are only interested in money, and not really interested in you.

[NOMAD]

Hey not sure why SM3 early stage 2:
No time for women and if I go out I don't have success with them (I don't expect to have something in the first stages so that's ok)
I am just working a lot
And manifestating things that can help with my health condition and future income stability

To the point I have to ask why am I manifesting or working towards things of that nature instead of manifesting women?
Also I don't organize my apartment or car too much lol
But it's like it is driving me to be a very successful man in the future
Why?

I'm not complaining btw I like it.
But I really don't understand why it happens on SM3 which is a good surprise for me

The 2nd verse of "Can I Get A..." by Jay-Z sums it up fairly well.

It's a woman rapping.

[Topaz]

Hey not sure why SM3 early stage 2:
No time for women and if I go out I don't have success with them (I don't expect to have something in the first stages so that's ok)
I am just working a lot
And manifestating things that can help with my health condition and future income stability

To the point I have to ask why am I manifesting or working towards things of that nature instead of manifesting women?
Also I don't organize my apartment or car too much lol
But it's like it is driving me to be a very successful man in the future
Why?

I'm not complaining btw I like it.
But I really don't understand why it happens on SM3 which is a good surprise for me

It's part of your efforts to make yourself more universally sexually attractive to women.  The end result isn't always a straight shot.  One of the best ways to be sexually attractive to a woman is to be able to offer her security, and MONEY is how she most commonly understands that to be the case.  Not everyone has this response; it depends on your understanding of what makes a man sexually attractive.  But success and money will never be a bad way to get sexual attention from women.  Just have to weed out the ones who are only interested in money, and not really interested in you.

That's interesting 
Personally I don't think money will get women or make a man more attractive 
I know a guy who have no money and had great results with beautiful girls.

Maybe it is the result of doing AM6 first+ non neediness 

But if what you say is the case it's very interesting 

Personally I do have a money problem that can get in the way of long term relationships but not one night stands 
As I understand sex magnet supposed to attract more one night stands 
Again I'm not complaining and I don't really care about the results at least not now. Currently I care more about my life than women.
But I'm curious to understand it 
I mean if my subconscious mind see that for me to be a sex magnet I need to be super successful 
Then all I need to do is AM6+SM3 and in few years I'll probably be a millionaire 
I'm far from a millionaire but my subconscious mind is trying to push me to the rich man's land

[Topaz]

Hey not sure why SM3 early stage 2:
No time for women and if I go out I don't have success with them (I don't expect to have something in the first stages so that's ok)
I am just working a lot
And manifestating things that can help with my health condition and future income stability

To the point I have to ask why am I manifesting or working towards things of that nature instead of manifesting women?
Also I don't organize my apartment or car too much lol
But it's like it is driving me to be a very successful man in the future
Why?

I'm not complaining btw I like it.
But I really don't understand why it happens on SM3 which is a good surprise for me

I have a good friend that get a lot of attention from the servers at Hooter's.  He's 55, 350+ lbs, and can't walk 100 feet without huffing and puffing.

But, he drives a Maserati and has a few million dollars, a great personality, and isn't shy.

Being successful won't hurt in the sex department.

I personally don't like the idea of having success with women only because of money 
But I also don't like the idea of not being successful and able to provide for one's family 

@NOMAD
I've checked the video clip lol that's funny

[samba99]

Thought I'd pop in and say "Hi!"

Been awhile.  Too long.  For those of you who have been wondering about where I've been, I wanted make a little post about that.
So, let's back up a bit:  

About a year after COVID hit, I was in a bad car fire.  I mentioned this on the forum, as I was then running OF, and I'm positive it helped me act to save myself.  Got banged up, but made it through alive.  The nasty part was the PTSD that followed.  High anxiety, depression, and a much greater alcohol intake.  I found myself withdrawing from a lot of the things I used to enjoy, including this forum.  Even so, I maintained contact with Shannon throughout, and he continues to be a very close personal friend to this day. Now, 3 years later, I have most of those issues handled.  Anxiety and depression are under control, and my alcohol use is greatly reduced.  I still slip here and there, but I'm happy to be where I'm at.  I'm also back to doing a lot of the things I value most.

Regarding IML and my continued involvement with it, here's a little tidbit that may surprise you: I have been helping Shannon out as a tester for years.  Furthermore, around late 2021 (or early 2022, I don't recall, exactly), I asked Shannon if he would create a custom single-stage for me.  I wanted it to be something useful for me, but a title that he could also sell through IML as well.  He agreed, and I ran it for months.  I had some really interesting results and experiences.  But, Shannon wanted additional feedback about the program, so I suggested he bring on Duke as a tester.  I've known Duke for several years and vouched for him.  Shannon thought about it, vetted Duke, and then accepted him as a tester. Duke ran my custom single-stage for a few months, and consequently came up with several very interesting and valuable insights. 
He even suggested a new name for that little-'ole-custom of mine:

Maverick.

I haven't been able to journal, because I'm often running something Shannon needs feedback on.  I could have been here sharing insights and feedback on your journals, or just chattin' everyone up, but I haven't, and I apologize for that.  I miss being active on the forum, and plan to be around and more involved in the future.

Hope you all are doing well, and I look forward to catching up with you!

RTB

Hello RT welcome,

I am alittle bit confiused, shannon previously said that he created maverick for himself only and not for anyone else. now hearing this from you that you requested shannon to build such sub. I am confisued which one is which.

infact this below qoute is from Maverick description:

"Simply put, it was originally built for men because it was originally a private experimental. I thought I was going to be the only one to ever use it, and I wanted to explore the potential of men. In the end, it worked so well that I decided to publish it"

----------------------------------------------

Shannon,

not that it matters alot, but, please clarify if Maverick was originally created for your own or it was a custom request? 

thanks

[RTBoss]

Thought I'd pop in and say "Hi!"

Been awhile.  Too long.  For those of you who have been wondering about where I've been, I wanted make a little post about that.
So, let's back up a bit:  

About a year after COVID hit, I was in a bad car fire.  I mentioned this on the forum, as I was then running OF, and I'm positive it helped me act to save myself.  Got banged up, but made it through alive.  The nasty part was the PTSD that followed.  High anxiety, depression, and a much greater alcohol intake.  I found myself withdrawing from a lot of the things I used to enjoy, including this forum.  Even so, I maintained contact with Shannon throughout, and he continues to be a very close personal friend to this day. Now, 3 years later, I have most of those issues handled.  Anxiety and depression are under control, and my alcohol use is greatly reduced.  I still slip here and there, but I'm happy to be where I'm at.  I'm also back to doing a lot of the things I value most.

Regarding IML and my continued involvement with it, here's a little tidbit that may surprise you: I have been helping Shannon out as a tester for years.  Furthermore, around late 2021 (or early 2022, I don't recall, exactly), I asked Shannon if he would create a custom single-stage for me.  I wanted it to be something useful for me, but a title that he could also sell through IML as well.  He agreed, and I ran it for months.  I had some really interesting results and experiences.  But, Shannon wanted additional feedback about the program, so I suggested he bring on Duke as a tester.  I've known Duke for several years and vouched for him.  Shannon thought about it, vetted Duke, and then accepted him as a tester. Duke ran my custom single-stage for a few months, and consequently came up with several very interesting and valuable insights. 
He even suggested a new name for that little-'ole-custom of mine:

Maverick.

I haven't been able to journal, because I'm often running something Shannon needs feedback on.  I could have been here sharing insights and feedback on your journals, or just chattin' everyone up, but I haven't, and I apologize for that.  I miss being active on the forum, and plan to be around and more involved in the future.

Hope you all are doing well, and I look forward to catching up with you!

RTB

Hello RT welcome,

I am alittle bit confiused, shannon previously said that he created maverick for himself only and not for anyone else. now hearing this from you that you requested shannon to build such sub. I am confisued which one is which.

infact this below qoute is from Maverick description:

"Simply put, it was originally built for men because it was originally a private experimental. I thought I was going to be the only one to ever use it, and I wanted to explore the potential of men. In the end, it worked so well that I decided to publish it"

----------------------------------------------

Shannon,

not that it matters alot, but, please clarify if Maverick was originally created for your own or it was a custom request? 

thanks

Shannon will be around later to address this, but when I read your response, it didn't make sense to me.  I left the whole "Maverick" release alone, since releasing the custom I had ordered and rebranding it was the brain-child of Shannon and Duke, collectively (without my involvement - which I thought was really awesome, BTW).  

Would you please post a link to that product description quote to help Shannon, Duke, and me get on the same page with you?

Thanks.

[Shannon]

It's part of your efforts to make yourself more universally sexually attractive to women.  The end result isn't always a straight shot.  One of the best ways to be sexually attractive to a woman is to be able to offer her security, and MONEY is how she most commonly understands that to be the case.  Not everyone has this response; it depends on your understanding of what makes a man sexually attractive.  But success and money will never be a bad way to get sexual attention from women.  Just have to weed out the ones who are only interested in money, and not really interested in you.

That's interesting 
Personally I don't think money will get women or make a man more attractive 
I know a guy who have no money and had great results with beautiful girls.

Maybe it is the result of doing AM6 first+ non neediness 

But if what you say is the case it's very interesting 

Personally I do have a money problem that can get in the way of long term relationships but not one night stands 
As I understand sex magnet supposed to attract more one night stands 
Again I'm not complaining and I don't really care about the results at least not now. Currently I care more about my life than women.
But I'm curious to understand it 
I mean if my subconscious mind see that for me to be a sex magnet I need to be super successful 
Then all I need to do is AM6+SM3 and in few years I'll probably be a millionaire 
I'm far from a millionaire but my subconscious mind is trying to push me to the rich man's land

What you're not understanding is this:

Money will only trigger some women... some women will respond to his intelligence... some will respond to his physique... some will respond to the way he smells... or the way he looks... or how educated he is... or what his job is... or how powerful he is... or how old he is... or how tall he is... or how closely he resembles her father... or how he has sex with her... and so on and so forth.  Just as with men, women are not all alike.  They all have different specific experiences and beliefs and personalities and physiologies and triggers.  Also, N=1 means nothing.  Knowing "a guy who" is statistically meaningless.  You can't draw a conclusion about all women (or all men) from that.

What I am saying is that if you're having that response, then some part of ou at a subconscious level believes that money and success is a way to be more sexually attractive to women.  And with regard to the women who are triggered by those things, that is correct.  But that is not all women.

However, ALL women will respond to one thing, and that is a man who can make her feel SECURE.  And guess what kind of man makes all women feel secure?  A wealthy and successful one.  So I'd say you're on the right track. 

[Shannon]

Thought I'd pop in and say "Hi!"

Been awhile.  Too long.  For those of you who have been wondering about where I've been, I wanted make a little post about that.
So, let's back up a bit:  

About a year after COVID hit, I was in a bad car fire.  I mentioned this on the forum, as I was then running OF, and I'm positive it helped me act to save myself.  Got banged up, but made it through alive.  The nasty part was the PTSD that followed.  High anxiety, depression, and a much greater alcohol intake.  I found myself withdrawing from a lot of the things I used to enjoy, including this forum.  Even so, I maintained contact with Shannon throughout, and he continues to be a very close personal friend to this day. Now, 3 years later, I have most of those issues handled.  Anxiety and depression are under control, and my alcohol use is greatly reduced.  I still slip here and there, but I'm happy to be where I'm at.  I'm also back to doing a lot of the things I value most.

Regarding IML and my continued involvement with it, here's a little tidbit that may surprise you: I have been helping Shannon out as a tester for years.  Furthermore, around late 2021 (or early 2022, I don't recall, exactly), I asked Shannon if he would create a custom single-stage for me.  I wanted it to be something useful for me, but a title that he could also sell through IML as well.  He agreed, and I ran it for months.  I had some really interesting results and experiences.  But, Shannon wanted additional feedback about the program, so I suggested he bring on Duke as a tester.  I've known Duke for several years and vouched for him.  Shannon thought about it, vetted Duke, and then accepted him as a tester. Duke ran my custom single-stage for a few months, and consequently came up with several very interesting and valuable insights. 
He even suggested a new name for that little-'ole-custom of mine:

Maverick.

I haven't been able to journal, because I'm often running something Shannon needs feedback on.  I could have been here sharing insights and feedback on your journals, or just chattin' everyone up, but I haven't, and I apologize for that.  I miss being active on the forum, and plan to be around and more involved in the future.

Hope you all are doing well, and I look forward to catching up with you!

RTB

Hello RT welcome,

I am alittle bit confiused, shannon previously said that he created maverick for himself only and not for anyone else. now hearing this from you that you requested shannon to build such sub. I am confisued which one is which.

infact this below qoute is from Maverick description:

"Simply put, it was originally built for men because it was originally a private experimental. I thought I was going to be the only one to ever use it, and I wanted to explore the potential of men. In the end, it worked so well that I decided to publish it"

----------------------------------------------

Shannon,

not that it matters alot, but, please clarify if Maverick was originally created for your own or it was a custom request? 

thanks

You are referring to the following from the FAQ of Maverick's description page:

Q: Why is it a "men only" subliminal?

A: Simply put, it was originally built for men because it was originally a private experimental.  I thought I was going to be the only one to ever use it, and I wanted to explore the potential of men.  In the end, it worked so well that I decided to publish it, but I have quite simply had more than enough of working on it.  So it is offered as it is, as it ended up being when I finished the experiment.  I have no plans to work on it after this or make different versions of it for different groups of people.

This is actually a mistake.  I'm glad you pointed this out.  I'm really not sure how that got written that way, or made it through editing.  The only thing I can think of is that it may have been because the description was written by two people, and the other person may have believed I was using it.  However, as I said, that is not the case.  Here are the facts:

RTBoss came to me at one point privately and asked me to consider building a custom subliminal of a specific design he had in mind.  Normally I don't accept custom jobs, but his design was exceptionally good.  It was going to be useful for my research & development, and he was willing to pay what I told him it would require to make it worth my time to make for him, pay for it up front, and wait multiple months for it to be built (because despite the price, I have to prioritize customer focused programs.  That's part of why I don't accept custom jobs.).  So I agreed to make it.  It proved to be very difficult and very useful, resulting in 5.9G. 

RTBoss then used it, and after a couple months, suggested that his friend Duke should also use it as a tester.  RT believed that Duke would be better suited for it than he was.  I was introduced to Duke behind the scenes, and after a long interview and consideration, I accepted him as a tester and he started testing it.  Duke concluded that it was much more than the sum of it's parts and was extremely powerful, valuable and important, and encouraged me to offer it for sale.  The rest is history.

However, I have never used it, and I said so multiple times on the forum.  I never used it myself because I was worried that it would damage my long term relationship.  So RTB and Duke used it before it was published.

I will correct this now.  Thank you for pointing it out.  Here is what it should say:

Q: Why is it a "men only" subliminal?

A: Simply put, it was originally built for men because it was originally a private experimental custom job.  I thought the purchaser was going to be the only one to ever use it, and I wanted to explore the potential of men through this program.  In the end, it worked so well that I decided to publish it, but I have quite simply had more than enough of working on it.  So it is offered as it is, as it ended up being when I finished the experiment.  I have no plans to work on it after this or make different versions of it for different groups of people.

[NOMAD]

Thought I'd pop in and say "Hi!"

Been awhile.  Too long.  For those of you who have been wondering about where I've been, I wanted make a little post about that.
So, let's back up a bit:  

About a year after COVID hit, I was in a bad car fire.  I mentioned this on the forum, as I was then running OF, and I'm positive it helped me act to save myself.  Got banged up, but made it through alive.  The nasty part was the PTSD that followed.  High anxiety, depression, and a much greater alcohol intake.  I found myself withdrawing from a lot of the things I used to enjoy, including this forum.  Even so, I maintained contact with Shannon throughout, and he continues to be a very close personal friend to this day. Now, 3 years later, I have most of those issues handled.  Anxiety and depression are under control, and my alcohol use is greatly reduced.  I still slip here and there, but I'm happy to be where I'm at.  I'm also back to doing a lot of the things I value most.

Regarding IML and my continued involvement with it, here's a little tidbit that may surprise you: I have been helping Shannon out as a tester for years.  Furthermore, around late 2021 (or early 2022, I don't recall, exactly), I asked Shannon if he would create a custom single-stage for me.  I wanted it to be something useful for me, but a title that he could also sell through IML as well.  He agreed, and I ran it for months.  I had some really interesting results and experiences.  But, Shannon wanted additional feedback about the program, so I suggested he bring on Duke as a tester.  I've known Duke for several years and vouched for him.  Shannon thought about it, vetted Duke, and then accepted him as a tester. Duke ran my custom single-stage for a few months, and consequently came up with several very interesting and valuable insights. 
He even suggested a new name for that little-'ole-custom of mine:

Maverick.

I haven't been able to journal, because I'm often running something Shannon needs feedback on.  I could have been here sharing insights and feedback on your journals, or just chattin' everyone up, but I haven't, and I apologize for that.  I miss being active on the forum, and plan to be around and more involved in the future.

Hope you all are doing well, and I look forward to catching up with you!

RTB

Welcome back my friend. 

"You've got mail."

Check your inbox.

[Topaz]

Thanks for your response

About Maverick I cannot see it in the shop and not sure what is that program doing

I've looked it up again and again are you sure it's available to all?