Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 8

[saamaanazizi]

Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR) is a psychotherapy treatment that is designed to alleviate the distress associated with traumatic memories. Can I have experiment with that while using OGFS v2? 

[Darkness]

Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR) is a psychotherapy treatment that is designed to alleviate the distress associated with traumatic memories. Can I have experiment with that while using OGFS v2? 

Do not do it whilst using the sub. EMDR is  strong and could DELETE some of the progress you make with OGFS.

Do it prior with a professional, also avoid using it for anything related to sexual arousal, it will decrease it majorly or lose it all together.

Or do it after you have bloomed enough after stopping sub use.

[Have at ye]

I was just thinking.

So, as far as I'm aware, EHPRA is healing-oriented, OGSF is removal-oriented, but I was wondering - how about a program that would be transmutation-oriented? Like giving the subC instructions to transmute negative phenomena into positive ones, like what the transmutative absorption shield does to negative outside energies. Unless, of course, the programs already have that.

[Topaz]

So in retro respect my idea of using DMSI and stopping SM3 midway was not bad... Stopped because told shouldn't stop SM3 midway

Maybe back when started I could get something from 1 month DMSI subscription after all?

I'm writing this because I didn't receive the refund for that yet because of "technical issues".

So I'm still waiting for it...

I thought to myself
If I do choose to go with E6 subscription - could I use the DMSI subscription refund for it ?

I just don't want it to be forgotten

Thanks

[Shannon]

Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR) is a psychotherapy treatment that is designed to alleviate the distress associated with traumatic memories. Can I have experiment with that while using OGFS v2? 

Do not do it whilst using the sub. EMDR is  strong and could DELETE some of the progress you make with OGFS.

Do it prior with a professional, also avoid using it for anything related to sexual arousal, it will decrease it majorly or lose it all together.

Or do it after you have bloomed enough after stopping sub use.

Agree.

[Shannon]

I was just thinking.

So, as far as I'm aware, EHPRA is healing-oriented, OGSF is removal-oriented, but I was wondering - how about a program that would be transmutation-oriented? Like giving the subC instructions to transmute negative phenomena into positive ones, like what the transmutative absorption shield does to negative outside energies. Unless, of course, the programs already have that.

I think that these programs are significantly more complex and intricate than you realize. 

[Shannon]

So in retro respect my idea of using DMSI and stopping SM3 midway was not bad... Stopped because told shouldn't stop SM3 midway

I can only guide you to the best of my understanding of your situation.

Maybe back when started I could get something from 1 month  DMSI subscription after all?

I'm writing this because I didn't receive the refund for that yet because of "technical issues".

So I'm still waiting for it...

I thought to myself
If I do choose to go with E6 subscription - could I use the DMSI subscription refund for it ?

I just don't want it to be forgotten

Thanks

It hasn't been forgotten.  I was actually going to work on that next.  We are working through some things that are in the way.  If you don't mind getting your refund as a gift certificate, I can issue it without delay.  Otherwise, if you can find the order number for your subscription purchase, I can look into that as well, but it may not be quite as fast.

[Topaz]

I can only guide you to the best of my understanding of your situation.

I understand man, yes life is not black or white.
Thank you for that

It hasn't been forgotten.  I was actually going to work on that next.  We are working through some things that are in the way.  If you don't mind getting your refund as a gift certificate, I can issue it without delay.  Otherwise, if you can find the order number for your subscription purchase, I can look into that as well, but it may not be quite as fast.

Tbh
I'm not sure what is the difference 
If the gift card is something I can use for subscription and buying programs in the future without an expiration date (not sure when is my next purchase)
Then it's good by me

Order #27849 confirmed

Thanks again

[dweller94]

Hello Shannon,

If I own Ultra Success/Luck Maximizer 4.2 (5.75.3g - Type A/B/C/D) can I run let's say the older v3 side B, I'm sure the price was the same, just wanted to clear this up before I experiment with something, and yes I paid for 4.2.

I don't understand your question.  If you bought both, why not?

2nd question I owe the old Core States of Awareness Exploration Kit which I use for meditation, my dad wanted to try the alpha audio do I need to purchase it again for him to test, here's the thing if it helps him in meditation, I will get a copy for him, not trying to cheat here as I have the money, it's just that it may not suit him.



Thank you.

He cannot use it unless he is exposed as a side effect of you using it.  If you play it on speakers for yourself and he is exposed, that is okay.  But that will be decidedly less effective than using headphones.  However, headphones you cannot use it for yourself and have him exposed as a side effect.



So either you expose him while using it for yourself on speakers, or you need to buy a copy for him.

I'm unsure if I received a refund for version 3. I currently own version 4.2, which was a free upgrade for others, but I paid for it. It's been so long that I can't remember. It's confusing because I have other products that were subscriptions (now cancelled) that still appear and are usable, though I know better than to use those. To be on the safe side I'm going to get the Ultra Success Luck Magnifier v5.0 (5.11G - Type A/B/C/D) as a subscription to try out the new technology. I'll also get a copy of the core states for my dad. Thanks.

In two minds:

Do I get this: Ultra Success 5.11G (Type A/B/C/D Hybrid) or Ultra Success Luck Magnifier v5.0 (5.11G - Type A/B/C/D) ?

For me luck is right place right time and just good stuff happening, what do you suggest Shannon?

[Shannon]

I can only guide you to the best of my understanding of your situation.

I understand man, yes life is not black or white.
Thank you for that

It hasn't been forgotten.  I was actually going to work on that next.  We are working through some things that are in the way.  If you don't mind getting your refund as a gift certificate, I can issue it without delay.  Otherwise, if you can find the order number for your subscription purchase, I can look into that as well, but it may not be quite as fast.

Tbh
I'm not sure what is the difference 
If the gift card is something I can use for subscription and buying programs in the future without an expiration date (not sure when is my next purchase)
Then it's good by me

Order #27849 confirmed

Thanks again

Just to be sure the order number is correct, what was the program you subscribed to with this order?  Because I thought I remembered you specifying a subscription of a different price than this one.

[Topaz]

Have subscribed to one month DMSI $38.95
It's Order #27849

That's the price in the shop and that's what I've paid

[callie]

When I wake up. It honestly doesn't have much to do with when I use the sub. Even on my days off, those dreams can still occur 

By the last few days on my off days, the tension in my head usually subsides, and I start feeling really tired. This is actually a good thing, as it allows me to sleep properly with no nightmares for at least one or two days until next cycle begins

I ask when it happens because it means something very different if it's happening when you use it after waking up vs before or while sleeping.

At this point, my best advice is that subliminals are not the right path for you, and that you need to seek professional psychological assistance to determine what your root issue(s) are and how best to deal with them.  I don't think self help is your best bet, given this response and your history.

I’m aware of what my root issues are, for the most part. They need to be addressed by helping me forgive myself and by grieving my past. That’s why I’m using E6 in the first place

I’m emotionally closed off. I’ve been that way since running OFv4 and OGSFv1. I don’t blame the subs, though - I ran them in ultrasonic, a format that has always felt too forcing for me, and I’ve never been able to stick with it long-term because the pacing is just too fast for me. I blame myself for ignoring my instincts and pushing forward despite the increasing dissociation. I should never have used E6 in ultrasonic to begin with 

Regarding your comment that subliminals might not be the right path for me, I have a question. When I decided to purchase a subscription to E6, I experienced wonderful TID the very next day - I felt at peace with myself, and everything felt so alive. If that can happen as TID, doesn’t that suggest it’s a possible outcome, since (correct me if I'm wrong) TID is essentially a glimpse of a 'future' self manifesting in your current timeline?

[Shannon]

I ask when it happens because it means something very different if it's happening when you use it after waking up vs before or while sleeping.

At this point, my best advice is that subliminals are not the right path for you, and that you need to seek professional psychological assistance to determine what your root issue(s) are and how best to deal with them.  I don't think self help is your best bet, given this response and your history.

I’m aware of what my root issues are, for the most part. They need to be addressed by helping me forgive myself and by grieving my past. That’s why I’m using E6 in the first place

I’m emotionally closed off. I’ve been that way since running OFv4 and OGSFv1. I don’t blame the subs, though - I ran them in ultrasonic, a format that has always felt too forcing for me, and I’ve never been able to stick with it long-term because the pacing is just too fast for me. I blame myself for ignoring my instincts and pushing forward despite the increasing dissociation. I should never have used E6 in ultrasonic to begin with 

Regarding your comment that subliminals might not be the right path for me, I have a question. When I decided to purchase a subscription to E6, I experienced wonderful TID the very next day - I felt at peace with myself, and everything felt so alive. If that can happen as TID, doesn’t that suggest it’s a possible outcome, since (correct me if I'm wrong) TID is essentially a glimpse of a 'future' self manifesting in your current timeline?

TID is an odd phenomenon that results from one of the modules, which causes you to experience the program's effects before you start using the program.

The ultrasonic being too fast paced - you must be dealing with a very, very early part of yourself if you think that.  The script is the same in all formats and the script instructs you to go at your own pace.  The only way ultrasonic at instructed volume could make you feel that is if some incredibly sensitive part of yourself perceived it as being too loud, too aggressive. 

I will spend some time looking at what format and volume would be best for you, but I'm a little slammed today.

While we wait, can you give me an overview of your experience with OGSF v1?

[callie]

I’m aware of what my root issues are, for the most part. They need to be addressed by helping me forgive myself and by grieving my past. That’s why I’m using E6 in the first place

I’m emotionally closed off. I’ve been that way since running OFv4 and OGSFv1. I don’t blame the subs, though - I ran them in ultrasonic, a format that has always felt too forcing for me, and I’ve never been able to stick with it long-term because the pacing is just too fast for me. I blame myself for ignoring my instincts and pushing forward despite the increasing dissociation. I should never have used E6 in ultrasonic to begin with 

Regarding your comment that subliminals might not be the right path for me, I have a question. When I decided to purchase a subscription to E6, I experienced wonderful TID the very next day - I felt at peace with myself, and everything felt so alive. If that can happen as TID, doesn’t that suggest it’s a possible outcome, since (correct me if I'm wrong) TID is essentially a glimpse of a 'future' self manifesting in your current timeline?

TID is an odd phenomenon that results from one of the modules, which causes you to experience the program's effects before you start using the program.

The ultrasonic being too fast paced - you must be dealing with a very, very early part of yourself if you think that.  The script is the same in all formats and the script instructs you to go at your own pace.  The only way ultrasonic at instructed volume could make you feel that is if some incredibly sensitive part of yourself perceived it as being too loud, too aggressive. 

I will spend some time looking at what format and volume would be best for you, but I'm a little slammed today.

While we wait, can you give me an overview of your experience with OGSF v1?

It feels like ages ago since I used OGSFv1, and I don’t remember much, except that it was similar to what I’ve experienced with E6 on and off since I increased the volume in ultrasonic. To give a short example, it feels like the part of me that’s been repressed and exiled starts to hate everything about myself. This often manifests in my dreams, where someone goes into a hateful rage and tries to kill me. Then I start hating them back and try to defend myself, usually ending up killing that part of me in the dream. I then wake up feeling absolutely devastated. It's like the part of me that needs to be integrated and healed ends up becoming even more isolated instead. This creates tension in my body and insane pressure in my head, and triggers all kinds of strange physical symptoms. I feels like my psyche is at war, and I believe the physical issues are are the psychosomatic effects of that

When I’ve felt healing, that isolated part in my dreams approaches me, and we’re able to reason with each other, eventually feeling sorry for one another. It’s strange. These moments usually occur long after I’ve quit using the sub, as a sort of blooming effect. This also suggests to me that the pacing was too aggressive while using the sub.

The ultrasonic being too fast paced - you must be dealing with a very, very early part of yourself if you think that.  The script is the same in all formats and the script instructs you to go at your own pace.  The only way ultrasonic at instructed volume could make you feel that is if some incredibly sensitive part of yourself perceived it as being too loud, too aggressive. 

I am sensitive. I feel things deeply. So that is a very likely conclusion, imo. 

As for E6, I actually switched to masked format recently. And things have been manageable again, which is good.