Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 8

[EvolvingPhoenix]

First of all, I don't have Maverick experience, I can't comment on this part. Also, I haven't used this sub as regularly and as long as you have. I used PM regularly for about 3 weeks. It reduces stress levels significantly, I would describe it as 'peace of mind'. I agree 100% about getting respect from other men, there is definitely something like that. I also agree with the other things you said, I had these effects too, even though I only used it regularly for 2 and a half to 3 weeks. And then when I went back and listened to it from time to time, the effects would come back immediately.
As an example of what PM does, I was recently on DMSI and DMSI had made my life a chaos. But when I ran PM, I could clearly feel it picking up my life or encouraging me to pick it up and be better. I don't know if it's because it's 5.11g, although the programs and goals are different, but PM is really much more powerful than DMSI in terms of achieving its goals. Maybe it has something to do with the complexity of the programs, I don't know, but even PM's recommended 1 hour of listening gives serious results. I'm not trying to compare two different programs, I'm just giving an example because these are the sub's I've tried recently.

In general, PM is a very successful program in my opinion, although not many people post about it in the forum.

Thanks for the awesome feedback on Primal Masculinity, do you guys mind if I use those in the testimonial section?

Really I love the feedback the most for myself as it will be my next program, but i'm sure others are looking for feedback on it too.

As an example of what PM does, I was recently on DMSI and DMSI had made my life a chaos. But when I ran PM, I could clearly feel it picking up my life or encouraging me to pick it up and be better. I don't know if it's because it's 5.11g, although the programs and goals are different, but PM is really much more powerful than DMSI in terms of achieving its goals. Maybe it has something to do with the complexity of the programs, I don't know, but even PM's recommended 1 hour of listening gives serious results. I'm not trying to compare two different programs, I'm just giving an example because these are the sub's I've tried recently.

Could it be a difference between the focus on women and sex which I know as well as anyone can throw us off, distract us and make us very frustrated at times as opposed to the focus on yourself and your core with Primal Masculinity?

Like if you wanted to have a 'foundation' for meeting women (such as with AM6 and SM/WM) the stuff you guys are reporting would be a great foundation for it.

The difficulty can be (maybe not for everyone, but for me) is to stop being continually drawn in and drawn back to just wanting to meet women as opposed to working on other things and the focus on the self.

I miss the old discussions around Masculinity and such we used to have here, with guys who actually were experienced and know what they are talking about which then was sadly replaced with literal virgins writing novels of nonsense 'advice' on how to meet women (ridiculous) and now just not much at all.

I feel like that's what DMSI is doing to me and I'm not even getting laid off it yet. It's because of how the focus is on sex (like you pointed out) and now the disconnect between my already strong desires that have only gotten wayy stronger lately and the way things are, mixed with the internal conflict between my deep dark sexual desires and my at least equally deep romantic and wholesome ones is all making me feel pretty exhausted from my own internal issues. 


I think that's affecting my results. Other things are too, like using substances during my vacation recently that negatively affect the energy flooding process and masturbating, but I realize the occasional masturbation is partially due to the deep internal conflict and the frustration of these issues. I'm sure the process of using DMSI is working on all those issues on some level in order to help execute the program, but I realize there's been some self sabotage lately. 

I'm done with my vacay and done with consuming things that negatively affect my energy buildup and auric sniping with the program, but while I have greatly reduced masturbation since using this program (and completely stopped watching porn) I still have these internal issues I need to work through before the program majorly executes. Damn I do want to FEEL THOUGH the way executing the program successfully WOULD make me feel, but I got a lot of internal blockages I need to clear to do that. It's gonna take a bit, I think. 

Is DMSI working? Or did I make a mistake buying it without enough ground work done on myself?