Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 8

[Benjamin]

The first thing I noticed about the sub is that it felt really mellow to me, kind of like Maverick did. That stands in stark contrast to US which had a stimulating effect. My stress levels dropped immediately. The next thing I noticed is that I felt a kinship with other men. Then I began to notice deference from other men. Then I began to notice hints of intimidation from other men. Then I noticed that I was walking more upright, shoulders back, chin up. Then I began to notice that I was taking up more space. At some point within the last 2 weeks, I began to want other men to challenge me so I could beat them at whatever I was being challenged on.

Other notables are that I started getting acne on my face and back within a week or two of beginning. Also, my scent changed. I began to stink more, especially my feet and armpits. One morning, I woke up with an 8 out of 10 morning wood which is something that hasn't happened in a while. I've been working out regularly mainly because I want my physical conditioning to match my mindset. In one of my offline journal entries, I noted that I want to forge myself into something "weapon-like" on a mental, physical, and emotional level. I don't mean that in the sense of violence. I mean it in the sense of Spartan-like discipline. I also noted that it's "stoking my inner badass". It feels good. Really good.

Here's a quote from my offline journal which really sums it up: "Part of me is wondering if I'll even WANT to run AM7."

First of all, I don't have Maverick experience, I can't comment on this part. Also, I haven't used this sub as regularly and as long as you have. I used PM regularly for about 3 weeks. It reduces stress levels significantly, I would describe it as 'peace of mind'. I agree 100% about getting respect from other men, there is definitely something like that. I also agree with the other things you said, I had these effects too, even though I only used it regularly for 2 and a half to 3 weeks. And then when I went back and listened to it from time to time, the effects would come back immediately.
As an example of what PM does, I was recently on DMSI and DMSI had made my life a chaos. But when I ran PM, I could clearly feel it picking up my life or encouraging me to pick it up and be better. I don't know if it's because it's 5.11g, although the programs and goals are different, but PM is really much more powerful than DMSI in terms of achieving its goals. Maybe it has something to do with the complexity of the programs, I don't know, but even PM's recommended 1 hour of listening gives serious results. I'm not trying to compare two different programs, I'm just giving an example because these are the sub's I've tried recently.

In general, PM is a very successful program in my opinion, although not many people post about it in the forum.

Thanks for the awesome feedback on Primal Masculinity, do you guys mind if I use those in the testimonial section?

Really I love the feedback the most for myself as it will be my next program, but i'm sure others are looking for feedback on it too.

As an example of what PM does, I was recently on DMSI and DMSI had made my life a chaos. But when I ran PM, I could clearly feel it picking up my life or encouraging me to pick it up and be better. I don't know if it's because it's 5.11g, although the programs and goals are different, but PM is really much more powerful than DMSI in terms of achieving its goals. Maybe it has something to do with the complexity of the programs, I don't know, but even PM's recommended 1 hour of listening gives serious results. I'm not trying to compare two different programs, I'm just giving an example because these are the sub's I've tried recently.

Could it be a difference between the focus on women and sex which I know as well as anyone can throw us off, distract us and make us very frustrated at times as opposed to the focus on yourself and your core with Primal Masculinity?

Like if you wanted to have a 'foundation' for meeting women (such as with AM6 and SM/WM) the stuff you guys are reporting would be a great foundation for it.

The difficulty can be (maybe not for everyone, but for me) is to stop being continually drawn in and drawn back to just wanting to meet women as opposed to working on other things and the focus on the self.

I miss the old discussions around Masculinity and such we used to have here, with guys who actually were experienced and know what they are talking about which then was sadly replaced with literal virgins writing novels of nonsense 'advice' on how to meet women (ridiculous) and now just not much at all.