Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5

[Shannon]

I understand.
I'm just wondering. Hypothetically, if ME were to work, perhaps one could achieve enough / desired growth in 6 months, and not 9. Because, if it were to work, surely some of that growth would occur in the first 6 month.

If the instructions coming out of the models stated 9 months, then it's going to require a minimum of 9 months for the majority to achieve the goals.  That suggests that some will achieve it sooner, but most will need 9 months.  Because realistically, the instruction set is going to take a long time to bring to physical reality, since it relies on causing your soft tissues to change.

[Shannon]

@Shannon Something similar to what Catman said regarding the DMSI release. If people are planning to run the new DMSI would you advise them to now stop any other sub they are running right now in preparation?

My best estimate is that you'll need to stop between now and 10 days from now, but I have to finish the 5.8G build process successfully at least once before I can really start focusing on DMSI 3.4 enough to know what is what.  So far all attempts to build it have failed.  The solution option I am working on right now is going to take me a day or two to know if it works.

Hi Shannon, I was wondering how this does combine with what you said in your answer to Cat's post before:

I suggest all the OF/FRM you can get before you do DMSI.

Or in other words: How much of a pause do you suggest between the sub prior to starting the new DMSI and maybe why exactly? Thanks for elaborating!

At least 7 days; 10+ is better.  The previous program will still be dominating your subconscious attention, and while DMSI's TID probably will not cause turbulence - although 5.8G is a new thing, so maybe it will - there will be more opportunity for turbulence as you have less time between the programs.

[Shannon]

wiĺl the anti sniper still be on for those in relationships in 3.4?

It is too early for me to answer that.  Once I have verified that the current 5.8G scripting/config/build setup works, I will go through and read the script of DMSI so I am working from a comprehensive memory map of what it was trying to accomplish and how last I built it.  Until that point, and then some modeling runs, I won't know how to answer that.

[ncbeareatingman]

A Piece of Shannon's most recent posting in his 'private' journal. "I am blown away by not just what UMS v2 is doing, but how it is doing these things. Find the right usage patterns, and this thing will have your Titanic shift to Full Speed and then take a hard turn straight for the target. And everyone and everything on the ship will be thrown on the floor when it does, but when you pick up the pieces, you'll be on track to amazing things happening that would have been impossible before, because you could not have seen them or accepted them, and would have prevented them from happening to maintain those limiting beliefs you had before. "

Me! Dang Dang Fang!! Wow. Duuude!! Reee-Mark-Ka-able !! Wow. Yeah UMSv2 is one deep puppy !!
A letter to the Universe...
Dear Universe ,thank you!!!

[AbundanceCH]

Rest assured, when we get stable again, and I am not swamped in queue, we'll get to handling the sexual stuff for men.  I know that there are several programs that are very important for a lot of guys in that direction.

Where does that leave universal healing? Or is that going to be a 6g sub?

[Shadow2200]

Is the hardest thing in DMSI is getting the affected to act? Some would it say it goes against a girls nature to chase unless your like some movie star etc. Or is it a thing where we want them to be influenced while still keeping free will to choose?

[Shannon]

Rest assured, when we get stable again, and I am not swamped in queue, we'll get to handling the sexual stuff for men.  I know that there are several programs that are very important for a lot of guys in that direction.

Where does that leave universal healing? Or is that going to be a 6g sub?

It leaves Universal Healing with the rest of the programs to be built after DMSI and NSLW, in the category of "currently undefined".  I don't know yet.  Let me finish those two programs and then we will assess the way forward.  If I try to keep track of more than one or two queued titles, I end up in overload and it usually doesn't come to pass the way I planned anyway because of unforeseen circumstances.

[Shannon]

Is the hardest thing in DMSI is getting the affected to act? Some would it say it goes against a girls nature to chase unless your like some movie star etc. Or is it a thing where we want them to be influenced while still keeping free will to choose?

The hardest thing is getting the user to execute.  We have seen many times now over multiple different versions that when the user actually executes, DMSI works well.  Getting the user to execute has been the biggest obstacle by far.

The second most difficult thing is getting the affected to act in the way the user wants them to, because of a combination of fear, circumstances that are not conducive, and the need to always give the affected their freedom of choice.

Those who believe it goes against a woman's nature to chase are basing their conclusion on what they have personally seen and experienced.  That is a limited subset of what a woman's psychology and responses are comprised of.  It leads to the false conclusion that she will not chase, initiate, etc.

Given the right variables, anyone can be gotten to chase, initiate, etc.  The key is to identify what those variables are, and understand how to adjust them to what they need to be, all the while leaving the affected their free will and freedom of choice.  I have personally seen women chase and initiate many times, even 8-9-10's, when presented with the right circumstances, which do not always include fame, wealth, power, etc.  Even natural perfect 10's are relatively easily gotten to chase hen the variables are set correctly.  In fact were it not for the need to allow the affected their free will and the need to use only positive methods to achieve the goals of DMSI, I could have achieved its goals for everyone within 2-3 releases.  However, that would have been too high a price to pay for both the user and the affected, and therefore, me and IML.

It is easy to destroy, which is the result of the negative path and approach.  It is very difficult to create, which is the result of the positive path and approach.  I only use positive methods, and I will never take away someone's free will.  So it takes much longer and is much more difficult to achieve the same goal, but the upside is that when I am finished, you will be able to achieve the goals without harm to yourself or the affected.

A woman is a human just like everyone else.  And just like everyone else, if you balance the scales correctly, she will chase, initiate, etc. regardless of how good looking she is, her social status or how high value she is. But even if you balance the scales correctly, and she is wanting to, able to and ready to, she may not be willing to because of the cost to her as a consequence of those actions and choices; for example, she may lose a marriage, hurt herself or someone she loves, etc. Free will means that once we get DMSI to it's final state, even when it is successful, she may choose not to act on those desires because of the cost. And there is nothing to be done about that unless we try to only affect women or people who do not have such considerations.

[ncbeareatingman]

Shannon when you getta chance,check out my post today..... the college campus dream. thnks.

[JakeKennedy]

Thanks for the update, Shannon.

Yeah, basically, I'm wrestling with doing ME and taking advantage of this once-in-a-lifetime downtime we have. Similar to what I've done with OF during it. I just need info on it, seems that's hard to come by before the time to decide which sub to use will occur. It's a 9 month commitment for that sub, so I need to be sure first of my choice. DMSI working in this environment I'm in here currently with this thing dragging on badly, will be far from easy as well, so I have some stuff to think about before deciding in awhile. At least the FRM element of it will fire and benefit me regardless, if I choose to go down that road.

On that subject:

@Shannon still early for feedback on ME, but looks promising.
(1 loop per day, hybrid format, earbuds...2 days on 1 day off)

Hey man! Can you give any exact info on what's going on and why you say it looks promising? You seem to be one of the only guys on it, so your feedback would be deeply appreciated for me, and others possibly. Thanks so much!

CatMan you are more impatient than me....it is fuler, that's it....it is only 1 month, so, I really have nothing to report.
I did try the earlyer version, but this efect was not so noticeable before.
When I will have something concrete to report, I will.


[url=https://subliminal-talk.com/private.php?action=send&uid=5114][/url]

I’ve noticed similar. It feels heavier to me than ever before. Like it contains more blood. Gf says it feels thicker.

[Raykon]

Thanks for the update, Shannon.

Yeah, basically, I'm wrestling with doing ME and taking advantage of this once-in-a-lifetime downtime we have. Similar to what I've done with OF during it. I just need info on it, seems that's hard to come by before the time to decide which sub to use will occur. It's a 9 month commitment for that sub, so I need to be sure first of my choice. DMSI working in this environment I'm in here currently with this thing dragging on badly, will be far from easy as well, so I have some stuff to think about before deciding in awhile. At least the FRM element of it will fire and benefit me regardless, if I choose to go down that road.

On that subject:

@Shannon still early for feedback on ME, but looks promising.
(1 loop per day, hybrid format, earbuds...2 days on 1 day off)

Hey man! Can you give any exact info on what's going on and why you say it looks promising? You seem to be one of the only guys on it, so your feedback would be deeply appreciated for me, and others possibly. Thanks so much!

CatMan you are more impatient than me....it is fuler, that's it....it is only 1 month, so, I really have nothing to report.
I did try the earlyer version, but this efect was not so noticeable before.
When I will have something concrete to report, I will.


[url=https://subliminal-talk.com/private.php?action=send&uid=5114][/url]

I’ve noticed similar. It feels heavier to me than ever before. Like it contains more blood. Gf says it feels thicker.

I used it for 4 loops & I swear there are times now where I notice it being bigger girth & harder erection, it could also be because my diet is really good now, but I do notice it's bigger then it was 8 months ago, I want to use it longer but I can't commit to that time, plus I feel confident in myself already that even though m only average size length, it's never been an issue for my past girlfriends, it's not all about size but how you use it & how passionate you are in bed.

I more so want a bigger size because it will feel tighter for me, of course it would be nice to be like 8 inches or 7 but its not the end of the world, I feel like focusing on my mind and health being stronger using Dmsi, Nslw , umv2 or OF is more worth it for me at this time in my life

[THolt]

Thanks for the update, Shannon.

Yeah, basically, I'm wrestling with doing ME and taking advantage of this once-in-a-lifetime downtime we have. Similar to what I've done with OF during it. I just need info on it, seems that's hard to come by before the time to decide which sub to use will occur. It's a 9 month commitment for that sub, so I need to be sure first of my choice. DMSI working in this environment I'm in here currently with this thing dragging on badly, will be far from easy as well, so I have some stuff to think about before deciding in awhile. At least the FRM element of it will fire and benefit me regardless, if I choose to go down that road.

On that subject:

@Shannon still early for feedback on ME, but looks promising.
(1 loop per day, hybrid format, earbuds...2 days on 1 day off)

Hey man! Can you give any exact info on what's going on and why you say it looks promising? You seem to be one of the only guys on it, so your feedback would be deeply appreciated for me, and others possibly. Thanks so much!

CatMan you are more impatient than me....it is fuler, that's it....it is only 1 month, so, I really have nothing to report.
I did try the earlyer version, but this efect was not so noticeable before.
When I will have something concrete to report, I will.


[url=https://subliminal-talk.com/private.php?action=send&uid=5114][/url]

I’ve noticed similar. It feels heavier to me than ever before. Like it contains more blood. Gf says it feels thicker.

I used it for 4 loops & I swear there are times now where I notice it being bigger girth & harder erection, it could also be because my diet is really good now, but I do notice it's bigger then it was 8 months ago, I want to use it longer but I can't commit to that time, plus I feel confident in myself already that even though m only average size length, it's never been an issue for my past girlfriends, it's not all about size but how you use it & how passionate you are in bed.

I more so want a bigger size because it will feel tighter for me, of course it would be nice to be like 8 inches or 7 but its not the end of the world, I feel like focusing on my mind and health being stronger using Dmsi, Nslw , umv2 or OF is more worth it for me at this time in my life

How many subs are you using currently?

[Raykon]

Thanks for the update, Shannon.

Yeah, basically, I'm wrestling with doing ME and taking advantage of this once-in-a-lifetime downtime we have. Similar to what I've done with OF during it. I just need info on it, seems that's hard to come by before the time to decide which sub to use will occur. It's a 9 month commitment for that sub, so I need to be sure first of my choice. DMSI working in this environment I'm in here currently with this thing dragging on badly, will be far from easy as well, so I have some stuff to think about before deciding in awhile. At least the FRM element of it will fire and benefit me regardless, if I choose to go down that road.

On that subject:


Hey man! Can you give any exact info on what's going on and why you say it looks promising? You seem to be one of the only guys on it, so your feedback would be deeply appreciated for me, and others possibly. Thanks so much!

CatMan you are more impatient than me....it is fuler, that's it....it is only 1 month, so, I really have nothing to report.
I did try the earlyer version, but this efect was not so noticeable before.
When I will have something concrete to report, I will.


[url=https://subliminal-talk.com/private.php?action=send&uid=5114][/url]

I’ve noticed similar. It feels heavier to me than ever before. Like it contains more blood. Gf says it feels thicker.

I used it for 4 loops & I swear there are times now where I notice it being bigger girth & harder erection, it could also be because my diet is really good now, but I do notice it's bigger then it was 8 months ago, I want to use it longer but I can't commit to that time, plus I feel confident in myself already that even though m only average size length, it's never been an issue for my past girlfriends, it's not all about size but how you use it & how passionate you are in bed.

I more so want a bigger size because it will feel tighter for me, of course it would be nice to be like 8 inches or 7 but its not the end of the world, I feel like focusing on my mind and health being stronger using Dmsi, Nslw , umv2 or OF is more worth it for me at this time in my life

How many subs are you using currently?

I only used ME for one day , but I've been teethering back & forth between Aura of Love & OF, there will be times when I feel OF is fading away but after a couple loops I feel good again, it's confusing , I'm not sure what to do at this point because I love the feeling aura of love gives me , & I love the feeling OF has. Perhaps aura of love & OF should be combined as loving yourself probably helps overcome fears. 

There is insane synergy between these two programs.
An amazing combination.

Personally I think It would be a brilliant idea to build a combo sub of these two programs, the feeling of fear reduction plus self love is amazing. I think allot of people would be interested in something like this.

I also think it would help with the issue ive noticed with OF of people fearing me or becoming uncomfortable in my presence , I was losing friends because of it & not getting invited out. As soon as I did Aura of Love I immediately was able to repair those relationships.

I feel like it's not normal to become this fearless , aura of love takes the edge off & makes its so that you still have likeablity. 

I definitely felt like I was too intimidating to people.

But don't get me wrong it helped me in other aspects like in my business I was killing it!!
& I don't regret doing it , it's changed my life, for the better, I just don't like that people are intimidated.

[Johannesbrst]

CatMan you are more impatient than me....it is fuler, that's it....it is only 1 month, so, I really have nothing to report.
I did try the earlyer version, but this efect was not so noticeable before.
When I will have something concrete to report, I will.


[url=https://subliminal-talk.com/private.php?action=send&uid=5114][/url]

I’ve noticed similar. It feels heavier to me than ever before. Like it contains more blood. Gf says it feels thicker.

I used it for 4 loops & I swear there are times now where I notice it being bigger girth & harder erection, it could also be because my diet is really good now, but I do notice it's bigger then it was 8 months ago, I want to use it longer but I can't commit to that time, plus I feel confident in myself already that even though m only average size length, it's never been an issue for my past girlfriends, it's not all about size but how you use it & how passionate you are in bed.

I more so want a bigger size because it will feel tighter for me, of course it would be nice to be like 8 inches or 7 but its not the end of the world, I feel like focusing on my mind and health being stronger using Dmsi, Nslw , umv2 or OF is more worth it for me at this time in my life

How many subs are you using currently?

I only used ME for one day , but I've been teethering back & forth between Aura of Love & OF, there will be times when I feel OF is fading away but after a couple loops I feel good again, it's confusing , I'm not sure what to do at this point because I love the feeling aura of love gives me , & I love the feeling OF has. Perhaps aura of love & OF should be combined as loving yourself probably helps overcome fears. 

There is insane synergy between these two programs.
An amazing combination.

Personally I think It would be a brilliant idea to build a combo sub of these two programs, the feeling of fear reduction plus self love is amazing. I think allot of people would be interested in something like this.

I also think it would help with the issue ive noticed with OF of people fearing me or becoming uncomfortable in my presence , I was losing friends because of it & not getting invited out. As soon as I did Aura of Love I immediately was able to repair those relationships.

I feel like it's not normal to become this fearless , aura of love takes the edge off & makes its so that you still have likeablity. 

I definitely felt like I was too intimidating to people.

But don't get me wrong it helped me in other aspects like in my business I was killing it!!
& I don't regret doing it , it's changed my life, for the better, I just don't like that people are intimidated.

Perhaps OF was helping you to overcome the fear of "loosing" friends. Friends that leave you if you don't go out with constantly shouldn't be considered friends. 


I'm saying what Shannon probably will - stick with something and stay with it for the recommended time. Otherwise you are just setting yourself up to be stick in a "I between land" for indefinite time.