Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5

[UniversalMan]

@Shannon still early for feedback on ME, but looks promising.
(1 loop per day, hybrid format, earbuds...2 days on 1 day off)

[CatMan]

Thanks for the update, Shannon.

Yeah, basically, I'm wrestling with doing ME and taking advantage of this once-in-a-lifetime downtime we have. Similar to what I've done with OF during it. I just need info on it, seems that's hard to come by before the time to decide which sub to use will occur. It's a 9 month commitment for that sub, so I need to be sure first of my choice. DMSI working in this environment I'm in here currently with this thing dragging on badly, will be far from easy as well, so I have some stuff to think about before deciding in awhile. At least the FRM element of it will fire and benefit me regardless, if I choose to go down that road.

On that subject:

@Shannon still early for feedback on ME, but looks promising.
(1 loop per day, hybrid format, earbuds...2 days on 1 day off)

Hey man! Can you give any exact info on what's going on and why you say it looks promising? You seem to be one of the only guys on it, so your feedback would be deeply appreciated for me, and others possibly. Thanks so much!

[UniversalMan]

Thanks for the update, Shannon.

Yeah, basically, I'm wrestling with doing ME and taking advantage of this once-in-a-lifetime downtime we have. Similar to what I've done with OF during it. I just need info on it, seems that's hard to come by before the time to decide which sub to use will occur. It's a 9 month commitment for that sub, so I need to be sure first of my choice. DMSI working in this environment I'm in here currently with this thing dragging on badly, will be far from easy as well, so I have some stuff to think about before deciding in awhile. At least the FRM element of it will fire and benefit me regardless, if I choose to go down that road.

On that subject:

@Shannon still early for feedback on ME, but looks promising.
(1 loop per day, hybrid format, earbuds...2 days on 1 day off)

Hey man! Can you give any exact info on what's going on and why you say it looks promising? You seem to be one of the only guys on it, so your feedback would be deeply appreciated for me, and others possibly. Thanks so much!

CatMan you are more impatient than me....it is fuler, that's it....it is only 1 month, so, I really have nothing to report.
I did try the earlyer version, but this efect was not so noticeable before.
When I will have something concrete to report, I will.


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[GreekGod22]

@CatMan what downtime are you talking about?

[CatMan]

Thanks for the update, Shannon.

Yeah, basically, I'm wrestling with doing ME and taking advantage of this once-in-a-lifetime downtime we have. Similar to what I've done with OF during it. I just need info on it, seems that's hard to come by before the time to decide which sub to use will occur. It's a 9 month commitment for that sub, so I need to be sure first of my choice. DMSI working in this environment I'm in here currently with this thing dragging on badly, will be far from easy as well, so I have some stuff to think about before deciding in awhile. At least the FRM element of it will fire and benefit me regardless, if I choose to go down that road.

On that subject:

@Shannon still early for feedback on ME, but looks promising.
(1 loop per day, hybrid format, earbuds...2 days on 1 day off)

Hey man! Can you give any exact info on what's going on and why you say it looks promising? You seem to be one of the only guys on it, so your feedback would be deeply appreciated for me, and others possibly. Thanks so much!

CatMan you are more impatient than me....it is fuler, that's it....it is only 1 month, so, I really have nothing to report.
I did try the earlyer version, but this efect was not so noticeable before.
When I will have something concrete to report, I will.


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Ah, I didn't know how long you were on it, fair enough.

Good to hear something may be happening anyway even at this point.

Appreciate the words a lot man! All the best.

[CatMan]

@CatMan what downtime are you talking about?

Hi there.

I'll elaborate. I mean the whole situation the world is in right now, my area in particular is very bad.

Anyway, I've used the time to listen to subs focusing on internal development, like OF/OFV2/OFV3, to prepare for the eventual return to normalcy and when I can then benefit from other subs I'd normally be using. It's also the reason I've been strongly considering ME, if I get some more info on it over the next 5 weeks or so, we'll see. Since using an external focused sub like DMSI now would be pretty difficult to make worthwhile, aside from the FRM benefits.

All the best, hope you had a good birthday. Happy belated!

[GreekGod22]

I understand.
I'm just wondering. Hypothetically, if ME were to work, perhaps one could achieve enough / desired growth in 6 months, and not 9. Because, if it were to work, surely some of that growth would occur in the first 6 month.

[firsthelix]

@Shannon Something similar to what Catman said regarding the DMSI release. If people are planning to run the new DMSI would you advise them to now stop any other sub they are running right now in preparation?

My best estimate is that you'll need to stop between now and 10 days from now, but I have to finish the 5.8G build process successfully at least once before I can really start focusing on DMSI 3.4 enough to know what is what.  So far all attempts to build it have failed.  The solution option I am working on right now is going to take me a day or two to know if it works.

Hi Shannon, I was wondering how this does combine with what you said in your answer to Cat's post before:

I suggest all the OF/FRM you can get before you do DMSI.

Or in other words: How much of a pause do you suggest between the sub prior to starting the new DMSI and maybe why exactly? Thanks for elaborating!

[Shadow2200]

wiĺl the anti sniper still be on for those in relationships in 3.4?

[Shannon]

Shannon, is overcome premature ejaculation still in the plans before 6g or is it for 6g?

I don't know right now.  There's a lot up in the air at the moment and I have to get caught up from the vacation before I will know.

Shannon I was wondering if you can add Noporn and Nofap also in it …I mean even if we watch porn it to learn stuff to get better in bed and not using it as an escape mechanism

That will depend on whether or not that turns out to be the most beneficial for the majority of users.  I'll run it through the models and see what results when the time comes.

Ok,That’s was a bad idea ..what if you simply make Noporn and Nofap with new frm.. come on bro I have been waiting  for years.. Since 4g era

Throw it on the pile, man.  Right now I am struggling to get 5.8G up and running, and get it tested in it's current configuration.  It took me three tries just to build the test program, and I have to make sure this doesn't take things too far in real world testing still.  This makes 5.8G significantly more complex to script, configure and build than 5.75.7G was, and it was already crazy.  I have a lot on my plate, and no matter what I build, someone is going to be upset because it wasn't what they wanted me to build.  Meanwhile, every step forward makes everything slow down and get harder and harder to do.

Rest assured, when we get stable again, and I am not swamped in queue, we'll get to handling the sexual stuff for men.  I know that there are several programs that are very important for a lot of guys in that direction.

[Shannon]

Shannon, I remember you saying it might be impossible to run 2 subs at the same time (latest tech and above).

Does this apply to self improvement subs only or is there a possibility we one day might be able to run for example UMS and ME, or LTU and grow thick hair, or grow taller etc?

Basically self improvement sub + physical change sub rather than 2 self improvement subs.  This combination would like pose the less difficulties when combined.

Currently, it is not possible.  The best I have been able to do is create TID that is minimally disruptive.  In the end, no matter what I do, 1/2=0.5.

[Shannon]

Are we going to see the return of the "meet them half way programing" in the new version of DMSI?

That was only present as "training wheels".  Absolutely not.

i hace noticed although the "meet them half way programing" was just a training aid. It did help people try to make something happen when nothing was happening with the aura alone. So it could be useful as a back up.

Back up was for when the program was still planning multiple updates.  This is going to be the last build of the 3.x series, and the last free update, and possibly the last version of DMSI.  There will be no training wheels or backups.  It will either swim or it will sink, and we will move on.

Besides, that is neither necessary for this version and counter to the goals of the program.

Perhaps at some point I will make a subliminal to cause you "man must hunt woman" types to become super hunters or something.  DMSI is about getting them to hunt you.

[Shannon]

@Shannon I finished OFV2 on Friday September 24th, it being the day off of the cycle.

I was going to start MLS 2 weeks after which would be this Saturday October 9th.

But I feel the need to do OFV3 instead.

Can I do OFV3, then MLS, then back to OFV3 then back to MLS?

Or do I need to do what was suggested for MLS which is to do 4 runs consecutively?

If you want to achieve the program's goals, follow the instructions.  If you don't mind partial results, or none, then feel free to ignore the instructions and do as you please, as most people do.

I was listening to OFV2 Hybrid Ocean Surf Silent through my headphones while sleeping.

The OFV3 instructions says: "Therefore, please take the specifics given here as guidelines for where and how to start using the program.  Use it this way for at least 14 days, and only adjust how you use it if you need to.

DO NOT use the Hybrid format until you are familiar with how the Masked and/or Ultrasonic formats affect you for at least one month of use each. Please be aware that Hybrid format in 5.75.7G may be overload for some or possibly all users."

Does that mean I still need to listen to Masked for at least 14 days to 1 month and/or Ultrasonic even if I have gone through Hybrid with OFV2?

That instruction is there because every release builds on things.  The OFv2 is not the same technology generation as the OFv3 release, and when things change, so do the instructions.  You need to understand how you respond to non-hybrid before you start using hybrid format so that you can know what is happening if hybrid is overload for you.  So yes, wait on hybrid until you know how the others affect you for the specified amount of time.

So it's a 5 day cycle: Day 1 = 1 loop; Day 2 = 1 loop; Day 3, 4, 5 = off ?

In the beginning.  Then you will make whatever adjustments are necessary to the loops, days off and days on, one variable per ASRB2

Can I start OFV3 right away instead of this Saturday October 9th?

You CAN do anything you like.  You SHOULD consider that there is turbulence to consider, and adjust accordingly.  That is why we suggest a break between programs.

[Shannon]

@Shannon still early for feedback on ME, but looks promising.
(1 loop per day, hybrid format, earbuds...2 days on 1 day off)

Thank you for the feedback.