Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5

[DarthXedonias]

Tech and power have nothing to do with it.  The issue is being specific enough and making the program safe.  Because different types of psychic sense and ability require such different specifics to trigger them, control them and make them safe, I doubt I will ever be able to create a single sub for that purpose without making it so generalized as to be "generally" useless.

Thanks for the reply @Shannon. Sorry for my late reply but something else did occur to me. So are you saying though that you could make a specific sub for a specific psychic ability then? I did have an idea that you might like. If you can only make subs aimed at specific psychic abilities would you be interested if someone made a poll of those different psychic abilities where people could vote on their top ones they want. Once you have that info regarding pretty much guaranteed purchases you could simply pick the top 2 or 3 choices. I think this idea might work as in if you have 2 to 3 money making subs to choose from you can more plan out what you will be doing over the next few months. As in you could build one of those psychic subs whenever you need to make money for the company in between building major programs. 

Its just an idea I wanted to float by you in case that was possible. Might be a good way to generate income in between main titles since you already know Psychic ability was a major requested sub and this way you can make 2 or 3 of the most requested titles to earn decent money on each.

[Shannon]

Tech and power have nothing to do with it.  The issue is being specific enough and making the program safe.  Because different types of psychic sense and ability require such different specifics to trigger them, control them and make them safe, I doubt I will ever be able to create a single sub for that purpose without making it so generalized as to be "generally" useless.

Thanks for the reply @Shannon. Sorry for my late reply but something else did occur to me. So are you saying though that you could make a specific sub for a specific psychic ability then? I did have an idea that you might like. If you can only make subs aimed at specific psychic abilities would you be interested if someone made a poll of those different psychic abilities where people could vote on their top ones they want. Once you have that info regarding pretty much guaranteed purchases you could simply pick the top 2 or 3 choices. I think this idea might work as in if you have 2 to 3 money making subs to choose from you can more plan out what you will be doing over the next few months. As in you could build one of those psychic subs whenever you need to make money for the company in between building major programs. 

Its just an idea I wanted to float by you in case that was possible. Might be a good way to generate income in between main titles since you already know Psychic ability was a major requested sub and this way you can make 2 or 3 of the most requested titles to earn decent money on each.

I can create a subliminal to develop and increase telekinetic ability, telepathy, clairvoyance, clairaudience and other types of psychic abilities.  However, the more I try to make a sub for all of them, the less effective it becomes for each of them, and the more restrictive I must make the safeties on top of that.

The real issue is that everyone has a different set of "psychic strengths and weaknesses", and I cannot know what each is for each person.  So let's say I create a subliminal for clairvoyance development and the person is one who cannot visualize.  It will necessarily fail.  If the person was born deaf and somehow (for the sake of example) managed to use a subliminal for clairaudience without ever developing the ability to hear normally, they could not (to the best of my understanding) clairaudiate.  If they had very weak telekinetic ability, it might take them years of use to develop telekineses to a detectable level.  And so on.

On top of that, the majority of people self regulate their own psychic ability by actively squashing it, ignoring it, denying it because "science says" it doesn't exist.  The conscious mind working against you is a powerful force.

Ultimately, I'm not entirely sure how profitable it would be to create such programs because there are so many factors working against success.

[DarthXedonias]

I can create a subliminal to develop and increase telekinetic ability, telepathy, clairvoyance, clairaudience and other types of psychic abilities.  However, the more I try to make a sub for all of them, the less effective it becomes for each of them, and the more restrictive I must make the safeties on top of that.

The real issue is that everyone has a different set of "psychic strengths and weaknesses", and I cannot know what each is for each person.  So let's say I create a subliminal for clairvoyance development and the person is one who cannot visualize.  It will necessarily fail.  If the person was born deaf and somehow (for the sake of example) managed to use a subliminal for clairaudience without ever developing the ability to hear normally, they could not (to the best of my understanding) clairaudiate.  If they had very weak telekinetic ability, it might take them years of use to develop telekineses to a detectable level.  And so on.

On top of that, the majority of people self regulate their own psychic ability by actively squashing it, ignoring it, denying it because "science says" it doesn't exist.  The conscious mind working against you is a powerful force.

Ultimately, I'm not entirely sure how profitable it would be to create such programs because there are so many factors working against success.

Hmm so in the end it would be more of an issue on the users end instead of the sub itself. As in they have certain abilities that they have an affinity for and some they don't. If they try to dabble in an ability they have no affinity for it might take years of use or if they lack certain skills entirely (such as hearing for example) they will get no where. So if you were to get anywhere the person would need to have some idea of what psychic abilities they have an affinity for. Out of curiosity is there anyway to figure that out by chance? 

I think I have a good idea of what mines are based on certain incidences but I can see where if people don't have many of those incidences or try to consciously forget them it could be a problem. I would also want to know then would making specific psychic subs ever be possible? or is it just the problem that its possible for you to do but you can't guarantee that the person will choose the specific psychic sub that best meshes with their personality?

[Amann]

Hi @Shannon

What would be the best relaxation sub that you would recommend?

Saw sleep magic but don't want to fall asleep just create a feeling of deep relaxation.

Currently using OF so want to make sure that use of a relaxation wouldn't affect OF.

[Shannon]

I can create a subliminal to develop and increase telekinetic ability, telepathy, clairvoyance, clairaudience and other types of psychic abilities.  However, the more I try to make a sub for all of them, the less effective it becomes for each of them, and the more restrictive I must make the safeties on top of that.

The real issue is that everyone has a different set of "psychic strengths and weaknesses", and I cannot know what each is for each person.  So let's say I create a subliminal for clairvoyance development and the person is one who cannot visualize.  It will necessarily fail.  If the person was born deaf and somehow (for the sake of example) managed to use a subliminal for clairaudience without ever developing the ability to hear normally, they could not (to the best of my understanding) clairaudiate.  If they had very weak telekinetic ability, it might take them years of use to develop telekineses to a detectable level.  And so on.

On top of that, the majority of people self regulate their own psychic ability by actively squashing it, ignoring it, denying it because "science says" it doesn't exist.  The conscious mind working against you is a powerful force.

Ultimately, I'm not entirely sure how profitable it would be to create such programs because there are so many factors working against success.

Hmm so in the end it would be more of an issue on the users end instead of the sub itself. As in they have certain abilities that they have an affinity for and some they don't. If they try to dabble in an ability they have no affinity for it might take years of use or if they lack certain skills entirely (such as hearing for example) they will get no where. So if you were to get anywhere the person would need to have some idea of what psychic abilities they have an affinity for. Out of curiosity is there anyway to figure that out by chance? 

I think I have a good idea of what mines are based on certain incidences but I can see where if people don't have many of those incidences or try to consciously forget them it could be a problem. I would also want to know then would making specific psychic subs ever be possible? or is it just the problem that its possible for you to do but you can't guarantee that the person will choose the specific psychic sub that best meshes with their personality?

Most people have relatively well developed empathy - the ability to feel other people's emotions at a distance.  That makes itself known by figuring out that around others, you tend to have your emotions shift, and it can be difficult to know whose emotions you are actually feeling.  I discovered this one day in 11th grade when I walked into math class feeling fine, and sat behind this outcast girl who was severely depressed.  Within 5 minutes I felt "grey", like graphite, depressed and hopeless.  It wasn't unfamiliar to me to be depressed, but I had never felt "grey" before.  And when she left, it went away.  I noted that I only felt like that around her and realized it must be her emotions.  Most of the time, people who are strongly empathic figure it out on their own, but it can be very confusing.

Clairvoyance and clairaudience are probably the next most common psychic abilities that are likely to be developed enough to notice without doing anything to develop them.  Most people mistake clairvoyance and clairaudience for their imagination.  Few indeed realize they can see and or hear things at a distance.  

As for things like the telekinesis, pyrokinesis, manipulating other things... well... who ever really uses those "muscles" except for an extremely rare few who spend years developing them the hard way.  Most people have the potential, but very few have anything more than that developed for the more exotic stuff.

There are some books on how to determine your specific strengths and weaknesses, but I don't remember what they were and I'm sure more have been written since I looked last.

I can make the subs, but the results depend on factors outside of my ability to predict or control fully.

[ncbeareatingman]

How is the build process going,Shannon, dare I ask?
As complex as ever no doubt. Perhaps theres a very good learning curve going on with the build of UMSv2 as well as discoveries? dunno, what ever the case, I hope its going well for ya.
Also curious, with out need for details, are you yourself experiencing any TID's from UMSv2,along the way Shannon???

[Shannon]

How is the  build process going,Shannon, dare I ask?
As complex as ever no doubt. Perhaps theres a very good learning curve going on with the build of UMSv2 as well as discoveries? dunno, what ever the case, I hope its going well for ya.
Also curious, with out need for details, are you yourself experiencing any TID's from UMSv2,along the way Shannon???

I'm trying to develop a module that, if it works, will offload a lot of the config work from me to you and let me work with less complexity and much faster.

This, however, is showing signs of being one of the most complex script modules I have ever tried to create.  If it works the way I want it to...    If not, we still have a significant improvement in how well all future programs should work as a result.

Once this is done, I start creating the scripts of Stage 1-2-3 and then building Stage 1.

But I am seeing what I believe to be TID from UMS v2 in two things:
1. I'm very focused on killing my debt now, much more than before, and
2. I have noted recently that running OFv3 produces unbelievable exhaustion.

[DarthXedonias]

Most people have relatively well developed empathy - the ability to feel other people's emotions at a distance.  That makes itself known by figuring out that around others, you tend to have your emotions shift, and it can be difficult to know whose emotions you are actually feeling.  I discovered this one day in 11th grade when I walked into math class feeling fine, and sat behind this outcast girl who was severely depressed.  Within 5 minutes I felt "grey", like graphite, depressed and hopeless.  It wasn't unfamiliar to me to be depressed, but I had never felt "grey" before.  And when she left, it went away.  I noted that I only felt like that around her and realized it must be her emotions.  Most of the time, people who are strongly empathic figure it out on their own, but it can be very confusing.

Clairvoyance and clairaudience are probably the next most common psychic abilities that are likely to be developed enough to notice without doing anything to develop them.  Most people mistake clairvoyance and clairaudience for their imagination.  Few indeed realize they can see and or hear things at a distance.  

As for things like the telekinesis, pyrokinesis, manipulating other things... well... who ever really uses those "muscles" except for an extremely rare few who spend years developing them the hard way.  Most people have the potential, but very few have anything more than that developed for the more exotic stuff.

There are some books on how to determine your specific strengths and weaknesses, but I don't remember what they were and I'm sure more have been written since I looked last.

I can make the subs, but the results depend on factors outside of my ability to predict or control fully.

Hey @Shannon thanks a lot from these replies. I'm actually learning quite a bit. If its fine with you I might still make that voting thread regarding this then depending on the data its up to you if you even want to attempt such a sub or something if you think it will make money. I did have one other question since your last post jogged my memory on it. Do you see the ability to see into the future as one of the more "exotic" psychic gifts or is it more common? Is it one of the more difficult abilities to really master? 

Based on what you said it would seem that if you were to attempt such a thing you would need to have a disclaimer informing buyers of the risks of buying the sub and it might not work due to things out of your control.

[ncbeareatingman]

FLockin A ,Man!! Now thats what I'm J. R. R.. Tolkien About!!

BTW Thank YOU Shannon.....fer the up date...dayumm sam ,a new config!! woofs!! Good Deal !!

[Shannon]

Most people have relatively well developed empathy - the ability to feel other people's emotions at a distance.  That makes itself known by figuring out that around others, you tend to have your emotions shift, and it can be difficult to know whose emotions you are actually feeling.  I discovered this one day in 11th grade when I walked into math class feeling fine, and sat behind this outcast girl who was severely depressed.  Within 5 minutes I felt "grey", like graphite, depressed and hopeless.  It wasn't unfamiliar to me to be depressed, but I had never felt "grey" before.  And when she left, it went away.  I noted that I only felt like that around her and realized it must be her emotions.  Most of the time, people who are strongly empathic figure it out on their own, but it can be very confusing.

Clairvoyance and clairaudience are probably the next most common psychic abilities that are likely to be developed enough to notice without doing anything to develop them.  Most people mistake clairvoyance and clairaudience for their imagination.  Few indeed realize they can see and or hear things at a distance.  

As for things like the telekinesis, pyrokinesis, manipulating other things... well... who ever really uses those "muscles" except for an extremely rare few who spend years developing them the hard way.  Most people have the potential, but very few have anything more than that developed for the more exotic stuff.

There are some books on how to determine your specific strengths and weaknesses, but I don't remember what they were and I'm sure more have been written since I looked last.

I can make the subs, but the results depend on factors outside of my ability to predict or control fully.

Hey @Shannon thanks a lot from these replies. I'm actually learning quite a bit. If its fine with you I might still make that voting thread regarding this then depending on the data its up to you if you even want to attempt such a sub or something if you think it will make money. I did have one other question since your last post jogged my memory on it. Do you see the ability to see into the future as one of the more "exotic" psychic gifts or is it more common? Is it one of the more difficult abilities to really master? 

Based on what you said it would seem that if you were to attempt such a thing you would need to have a disclaimer informing buyers of the risks of buying the sub and it might not work due to things out of your control.

The ability to "see the future" is known as prophecy when you are doing it visually and "prophetic whatever" when you do it through other senses.  It's not rare visually and empathically, but it's also not common either.  

Prophetic ability is definitely a can of worms, and here's why.  What you see is not guaranteed to happen.  It may either be the most likely future or the one your subconscious is most wanting or afraid of.  Now if it's the "most likely", but doesn't happen, then you're going to have people complaining that the sub doesn't work.  If you can't discern what you want vs what is most likely then you're going to be wrong a lot.  If you can't discern what you're afraid of vs what is most likely, then you're going to unconsciously steer things towards manifesting what you're afraid of, and make negative things tend to happen more.

Then we have to consider the potential consequences of having this ability be easily accessible to someone or a group or more than one group who wants to use it to control, manipulate, take advantage of, misuse, harm with it.  How do you prevent that?

It's not something I really think is wise for me to make...

[ncbeareatingman]

Most people have relatively well developed empathy - the ability to feel other people's emotions at a distance.  That makes itself known by figuring out that around others, you tend to have your emotions shift, and it can be difficult to know whose emotions you are actually feeling.  I discovered this one day in 11th grade when I walked into math class feeling fine, and sat behind this outcast girl who was severely depressed.  Within 5 minutes I felt "grey", like graphite, depressed and hopeless.  It wasn't unfamiliar to me to be depressed, but I had never felt "grey" before.  And when she left, it went away.  I noted that I only felt like that around her and realized it must be her emotions.  Most of the time, people who are strongly empathic figure it out on their own, but it can be very confusing.

Clairvoyance and clairaudience are probably the next most common psychic abilities that are likely to be developed enough to notice without doing anything to develop them.  Most people mistake clairvoyance and clairaudience for their imagination.  Few indeed realize they can see and or hear things at a distance.  

As for things like the telekinesis, pyrokinesis, manipulating other things... well... who ever really uses those "muscles" except for an extremely rare few who spend years developing them the hard way.  Most people have the potential, but very few have anything more than that developed for the more exotic stuff.

There are some books on how to determine your specific strengths and weaknesses, but I don't remember what they were and I'm sure more have been written since I looked last.

I can make the subs, but the results depend on factors outside of my ability to predict or control fully.

Hey @Shannon thanks a lot from these replies. I'm actually learning quite a bit. If its fine with you I might still make that voting thread regarding this then depending on the data its up to you if you even want to attempt such a sub or something if you think it will make money. I did have one other question since your last post jogged my memory on it. Do you see the ability to see into the future as one of the more "exotic" psychic gifts or is it more common? Is it one of the more difficult abilities to really master? 

Based on what you said it would seem that if you were to attempt such a thing you would need to have a disclaimer informing buyers of the risks of buying the sub and it might not work due to things out of your control.

The ability to "see the future" is known as prophecy when you are doing it visually and "prophetic whatever" when you do it through other senses.  It's not rare visually and empathically, but it's also not common either.  

Prophetic ability is definitely a can of worms, and here's why.  What you see is not guaranteed to happen.  It may either be the most likely future or the one your subconscious is most wanting or afraid of.  Now if it's the "most likely", but doesn't happen, then you're going to have people complaining that the sub doesn't work.  If you can't discern what you want vs what is most likely then you're going to be wrong a lot.  If you can't discern what you're afraid of vs what is most likely, then you're going to unconsciously steer things towards manifesting what you're afraid of, and make negative things tend to happen more.

Then we have to consider the potential consequences of having this ability be easily accessible to someone or a group or more than one group who wants to use it to control, manipulate, take advantage of, misuse, harm with it.  How do you prevent that?

It's not something I really think is wise for me to make...

 I agree Shannon.. how ever I  do hope that in the future and maybe in the not too distant future you'll once again consider the Lottery Sub with some special limiter's in it to prevent malicious use or harmful usage ( that is to self or others) By the sound of it though, UMS v2....well..lets just say we might not need  the here to fore mentioned.

[freerad98]

..snip...

I'm trying to develop a module that, if it works, will offload a lot of the config work from me to you and let me work with less complexity and much faster.

This, however, is showing signs of being one of the most complex script modules I have ever tried to create.  If it works the way I want it to...    If not, we still have a significant improvement in how well all future programs should work as a result.

Once this is done, I start creating the scripts of Stage 1-2-3 and then building Stage 1.

But I am seeing what I believe to be TID from UMS v2 in two things:
1. I'm very focused on killing my debt now, much more than before, and
2. I have noted recently that running OFv3 produces unbelievable exhaustion.

I quit using AoL this past Monday, but this TID from UMS 2 seems to be already kicking my butt. I've noticed a definite surge in my wanting to understand technical signals with crypto trading and binge-watching related videos. Maybe another result of TID?

[NOMAD]

Most people have relatively well developed empathy - the ability to feel other people's emotions at a distance.  That makes itself known by figuring out that around others, you tend to have your emotions shift, and it can be difficult to know whose emotions you are actually feeling.  I discovered this one day in 11th grade when I walked into math class feeling fine, and sat behind this outcast girl who was severely depressed.  Within 5 minutes I felt "grey", like graphite, depressed and hopeless.  It wasn't unfamiliar to me to be depressed, but I had never felt "grey" before.  And when she left, it went away.  I noted that I only felt like that around her and realized it must be her emotions.  Most of the time, people who are strongly empathic figure it out on their own, but it can be very confusing.

Mine developed pretty well at a very young age. It's part of why I often refer to the childhood version of me as a "sensitive" kid. On one hand, it feeds my intuition and helps me to read situations and people. On the other, being affected by the varying moods of different people is draining. I consider it a blessing and a curse (weighted mostly toward the latter). I imagine that further development of other psychic skills would come with similar tradeoffs.

[RTBoss]

Most people have relatively well developed empathy - the ability to feel other people's emotions at a distance.  That makes itself known by figuring out that around others, you tend to have your emotions shift, and it can be difficult to know whose emotions you are actually feeling.  I discovered this one day in 11th grade when I walked into math class feeling fine, and sat behind this outcast girl who was severely depressed.  Within 5 minutes I felt "grey", like graphite, depressed and hopeless.  It wasn't unfamiliar to me to be depressed, but I had never felt "grey" before.  And when she left, it went away.  I noted that I only felt like that around her and realized it must be her emotions.  Most of the time, people who are strongly empathic figure it out on their own, but it can be very confusing.

Mine developed pretty well at a very young age. It's part of why I often refer to the childhood version of me as a "sensitive" kid. On one hand, it feeds my intuition and helps me to read situations and people. On the other, being affected by the varying moods of different people is draining. I consider it a blessing and a curse (weighted mostly toward the latter). I imagine that further development of other psychic skills would come with similar tradeoffs.

A branch-off of DRS may be a practical "Psychic Self Defense" sub, where you develop the skills necessary to ward off the negative effects of other's energies/emotions/psychic attacks.  But perhaps DRS is already sufficient enough in that respect.