Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5

[Shannon]

Can I use the Stress Relief (5G – Type B) to help me sleep at night? I'll run it every time I sleep

The 5G sleep induction aid is good.  There is also a 5.5G sleep induction aid, and a few based on binaural beats.  Stress relief 5G may help, but it will depend on why you can't sleep.

[ncbeareatingman]

Hows production going Shannon with the new series your're working on....at least the first two,that you indicated were nearing,build mode???? thnks.
damn I cant wait to find out what these titles are about.

[Shannon]

Hows production going Shannon with the new series your're working on....at least the first two,that you indicated were nearing,build mode???? thnks.
damn I cant wait to find out what these titles are about.

I'm working on the new additions to the skeleton script.  Then one of them will be ready to build and the other will be ready for me to develop the key script of.  Since it's key script is similar to the one I have finished, it will allow me to start with about half of the key script finished.

Unfortunately today I have been having trouble getting stable answers from the models.  But we are making progress.

I also came up with a way to optimize one of the existing modules in a way that I think will be very much appreciated.  This change that I made should remove most, if not all of the exhaustion these programs currently trigger.

[fab10]

@Shannon , what are currently the best options for dealing with anger issues? Both in the moment and long term healing. Thanks!

[Shannon]

@Shannon , what are currently the best options for dealing with anger issues? Both in the moment and long term healing. Thanks!

Anger is a little less than straightforward to deal with because it depends on why you are angry, and what part of you is angry.

If you're angry because someone mistreats you and forces you to "just deal with it", the solution is to stop the abuse, not kill the anger.  The solution in that case would probably either be OF or LTU, because that would allow you to act to stop the abuse.  

If your anger is caused by something that has happened in the past, and is over, and you just need to let go of it and move on, E4 or LTU would be good choices.

[ncbeareatingman]

Hows production going Shannon with the new series your're working on....at least the first two,that you indicated were nearing,build mode???? thnks.
damn I cant wait to find out what these titles are about.

I'm working on the new additions to the skeleton script.  Then one of them will be ready to build and the other will be ready for me to develop the key script of.  Since it's key script is similar to the one I have finished, it will allow me to start with about half of the key script finished.

Unfortunately today I have been having trouble getting stable answers from the models.  But we are making progress.

I also came up with a way to optimize one of the existing modules in a way that I think will be very much appreciated.  This change that I made should remove most, if not all of the exhaustion these programs currently trigger.

Shannon's quote: " I also came up with a way to optimize one of the existing modules in a way that I think will be very much appreciated.  This change that I made should remove most, if not all of the exhaustion these programs currently trigger."

 Me: Holy Sheet Man,do you know what this means??? dang!! I swear I keep going back to the image of  Inventing Frankenstein but with some sense, as it were. dang. This ,amoung other things,would mean a tremendous step forward for mankind. geez!!
 I know,I know,its yet to be fully tested and fine tuned up, but thats certainly do able to 'get there' ; to where we'd all like it to be. 

 Low to NO exhaustion, from the labour intensive  input of info/direction/scripting.  
 Wow!! To put it mildly ,Mister,the future of these Subliminals is incredible.
 As Bill Paxton,once said excitedly,in the movie "Tombstone" - "Dang this Berg is hoppin' !!"

[Shannon]

Hows production going Shannon with the new series your're working on....at least the first two,that you indicated were nearing,build mode???? thnks.
damn I cant wait to find out what these titles are about.

I'm working on the new additions to the skeleton script.  Then one of them will be ready to build and the other will be ready for me to develop the key script of.  Since it's key script is similar to the one I have finished, it will allow me to start with about half of the key script finished.

Unfortunately today I have been having trouble getting stable answers from the models.  But we are making progress.

I also came up with a way to optimize one of the existing modules in a way that I think will be very much appreciated.  This change that I made should remove most, if not all of the exhaustion these programs currently trigger.

Shannon's quote: " I also came up with a way to optimize one of the existing modules in a way that I think will be very much appreciated.  This change that I made should remove most, if not all of the exhaustion these programs currently trigger."

 Me: Holy Sheet Man,do you know what this means??? dang!! I swear I keep going back to the image of  Inventing Frankenstein but with some sense, as it were. dang. This ,amoung other things,would mean a tremendous step forward for mankind. geez!!
 I know,I know,its yet to be fully tested and fine tuned up, but thats certainly do able to 'get there' ; to where we'd all like it to be. 

 Low to NO exhaustion, from the labour intensive  input of info/direction/scripting.  
 Wow!! To put it mildly ,Mister,the future of these Subliminals is incredible.
 As Bill Paxton,once said excitedly,in the movie "Tombstone" - "Dang this Berg is hoppin' !!"

Well, if it works as intended.

[fab10]

@Shannon , what are currently the best options for dealing with anger issues? Both in the moment and long term healing. Thanks!

Anger is a little less than straightforward to deal with because it depends on why you are angry, and what part of you is angry.

If you're angry because someone mistreats you and forces you to "just deal with it", the solution is to stop the abuse, not kill the anger.  The solution in that case would probably either be OF or LTU, because that would allow you to act to stop the abuse.  

If your anger is caused by something that has happened in the past, and is over, and you just need to let go of it and move on, E4 or LTU would be good choices.

Thanks, I’m doing LTU so that part is covered. In fact it must be LTU that made me realize how healing my anger should be my focus now. 

Would it be possible and beneficial to add Tranquilizer A in the moment when something really upsets me?

[Shannon]

@Shannon , what are currently the best options for dealing with anger issues? Both in the moment and long term healing. Thanks!

Anger is a little less than straightforward to deal with because it depends on why you are angry, and what part of you is angry.

If you're angry because someone mistreats you and forces you to "just deal with it", the solution is to stop the abuse, not kill the anger.  The solution in that case would probably either be OF or LTU, because that would allow you to act to stop the abuse.  

If your anger is caused by something that has happened in the past, and is over, and you just need to let go of it and move on, E4 or LTU would be good choices.

Thanks, I’m doing LTU so that part is covered. In fact it must be LTU that made me realize how healing my anger should be my focus now. 

Would it be possible and beneficial to add Tranquilizer A in the moment when something really upsets me?

That is mixing subliminals, and it's going to derail LTU if you do.  Basically what you're doing is forcing your subconscious to execute Tranquilizer instead of LTU.  That's going to cause issues most likely.  I wouldn't.

[reki]

Can I use the Stress Relief (5G – Type B) to help me sleep at night? I'll run it every time I sleep

The 5G sleep induction aid is good.  There is also a 5.5G sleep induction aid, and a few based on binaural beats.  Stress relief 5G may help, but it will depend on why you can't sleep.

I can't seem to find the 5.5g sleep indiuction aid here.
http://www.subliminal-shop.com/categories/sleep/
Anyhow I'm just going to wait for the 5.75g sleep induction aid. I'm going to use first the stress relief 5g while waiting.

[MagicalAlchemist]

Shannon, since i change my volume variable to 4/15, should i reset my previous 6 loops (based on autoconfig) to 3 loops or just keep going with my current loop?

[Shannon]

Shannon, since i change my volume variable to 4/15, should i reset my previous 6 loops (based on autoconfig) to 3 loops or just keep going with my current loop?

Switch only one variable at a time.

[London1]

I can tell you my experience with the previous MLS, and the current one will be an extension so it should be helpful. 

On MLS you'll have a deep desire to learn about anything you want to, and studying will come in any form that is useful to what you're trying to learn. If you want to box for example, I found that my ability to mirror good boxers body movement and and practice their techniques enhanced greatly, I would naturally slip into a place where I would watch and emulate without even consciously deciding to (like I was in a trance like concentration), and automatically become better. 

You'll be able to connect dots and create mental models in a way which allows you to not only learn something, but learn it quickly and efficiently, and that skill in developing mental models/connecting dots is hyper useful in any mental domain. For trading you'll find you can visualise price movements and how different types of moving averages will move in line with those movements (something that I found I was able to do when I was on it previously). You will absolutely recognise patterns, solve problems and learn from mistakes - on the last point you'll actually remember mistakes you'd forgotten and wonder how you ever made them since the mistake was so obvious .

The main problem i ended up with was sticking with a couple of things and not tyring to learn absolutely everything. I also self sabotaged through over eating, stonewalling and other things which i won't get into. 

If you manage to not self sabotage in some way then when this works it's like the world becomes an interesting place of possibility and there's no real mental limit on what you can learn/do.

Sh!t dude - thats amazing.. I use price and moving averages.. and would love to box too.. thanks bro..

Did this happen quickly or only after you finished the program? also, how is your learning ability now? I mean can you still box or trade the stuff you "learnt" while on the program?

The abilities improved over the course of the programme; with motivation to learn coming immediately as well as an increase in intelligence which became very clear at work. I ran into problems though as i clearly started self sabotaging. For example I have an intolerance to gluten and wheat which when I eat them turn me into a zombie and I went from a completely gluten/wheat free and sugar free diet to indulging in these all the time; so the results were not consistent. I also started not doing the course according to specifications, missing days etc. This was my resistance and I put it down to -

(1) a fear of being powerful. having this ability made me feel unconstrained and i didn't know how to handle it
(2) fear of loss of control. similar to the above, but the change was very significant and made me feel out of control of what was happening
(3) ego identification. The improvement in intelligence was delicious for my ego, and I became very involved with the 'idea' or 'identity' of being a smart person, again this was a change in who I was which I resisted.

This isn't IML advice, so if Ben/Shannon want me to remove it I can but I found a personal journal helps where you ask yourself a few questions. The questions that help me are
 - Why do I not want to achieve the goals of the programme?
 - What do I gain from not achieving the goals of the programme?
 - What do I lose from achieving the goals of the programme?
 - How real are these reasons, are they worth not achieving the goals of the programme?
 - Can I accept the consequences of executing the programme?


The above is surprisingly difficult to do, I've found some painful negative beliefs about myself and the world which don't have much basis in reality but are none the less hard to shift. Again this is just personal experience and nothing to do with advice from IML. 

As regards practicing what I learned, I started USLM after MLS which is a long story of misadventure so in short no. At the time, I had a coach teaching me trading who couldn't get over how quickly i was absorbing information and thought I had some form of psychic ability and wanted to work with me. At the end of the course I'd stopped using MLS and he was shocked because I was no longer demonstrating what I had, he kept asking me what happened and was genuinely sad because he thought he'd found a valuable business partner. 

Basically if you do MLS according to instructions and take some steps to get out of your own way, there's no reason to not experience all of the results whilst using it. I don't have experience of results post the sub.

One thing I'd like to point out is that this is exactly what I was working on correcting in MLS 4.0.  That's why it has a heavy dose of FRM and uses DRS.  It's designed to improve on everything V3 did well, and correct everything it did not do well.  It actually has more focus on FRM than OF v2, which was quite a shock to see coming out of the models again, and again, and again... I have only ever seen that happen one other time, and that was with a sub focused on sex.  There is a lot of fear involved in getting to sex and achieving one's full potential.  

So don't think you need to do OF before MLS 4.  MLS 4 should take care of that for you.

Hi @Shannon I havent been on for a while and read your above reply regarding MLS having more FRM then OFv2.

As you may recall, my reasons for starting with ILM subs in 2015 was to overcome my procrastination (& subsequent fears) surrounding learning and particularly academic learning (as im a mature student in university).

I am currently about to start my 9th cycle of OFv2, thus my 9th week, reducing the volume to 7/15 for this 9th cycle using US if you recall via my s10 samsung phone.

So far I havent felt or noticed any change or difference whatsoever, and would continue to go as low as 3/15 as you mentioned may be needed for some folks.

I having read what you said regarding a stronger/better/improved FRM (if I understood correctly) being in MLS and having read that MLS also deals with procrastination and lack of focus and motivation around studying as well as fear (anxiety, stress etc) based upon learning makes me now wonder shall I change to MLS?

I did 45 days of OFv1 then bought and changed to OFv2 as i am committed to actually get executing with your subs and get over my issues. So what do you suggest and advise please?

If you do suggest I change to MLS, then how shall I considering ill be in a the 9th cycle of OFv2, ie: Do i need some time off before starting MLS etc?

Im just really trying here mate, thanks.

Shannon, since i change my volume variable to 4/15, should i reset my previous 6 loops (based on autoconfig) to 3 loops or just keep going with my current loop?

Switch only one variable at a time.

How often should you switch variables for those that are not excecuting?
Is a week good?

[Shannon]

Sh!t dude - thats amazing.. I use price and moving averages.. and would love to box too.. thanks bro..

Did this happen quickly or only after you finished the program? also, how is your learning ability now? I mean can you still box or trade the stuff you "learnt" while on the program?

The abilities improved over the course of the programme; with motivation to learn coming immediately as well as an increase in intelligence which became very clear at work. I ran into problems though as i clearly started self sabotaging. For example I have an intolerance to gluten and wheat which when I eat them turn me into a zombie and I went from a completely gluten/wheat free and sugar free diet to indulging in these all the time; so the results were not consistent. I also started not doing the course according to specifications, missing days etc. This was my resistance and I put it down to -

(1) a fear of being powerful. having this ability made me feel unconstrained and i didn't know how to handle it
(2) fear of loss of control. similar to the above, but the change was very significant and made me feel out of control of what was happening
(3) ego identification. The improvement in intelligence was delicious for my ego, and I became very involved with the 'idea' or 'identity' of being a smart person, again this was a change in who I was which I resisted.

This isn't IML advice, so if Ben/Shannon want me to remove it I can but I found a personal journal helps where you ask yourself a few questions. The questions that help me are
 - Why do I not want to achieve the goals of the programme?
 - What do I gain from not achieving the goals of the programme?
 - What do I lose from achieving the goals of the programme?
 - How real are these reasons, are they worth not achieving the goals of the programme?
 - Can I accept the consequences of executing the programme?


The above is surprisingly difficult to do, I've found some painful negative beliefs about myself and the world which don't have much basis in reality but are none the less hard to shift. Again this is just personal experience and nothing to do with advice from IML. 

As regards practicing what I learned, I started USLM after MLS which is a long story of misadventure so in short no. At the time, I had a coach teaching me trading who couldn't get over how quickly i was absorbing information and thought I had some form of psychic ability and wanted to work with me. At the end of the course I'd stopped using MLS and he was shocked because I was no longer demonstrating what I had, he kept asking me what happened and was genuinely sad because he thought he'd found a valuable business partner. 

Basically if you do MLS according to instructions and take some steps to get out of your own way, there's no reason to not experience all of the results whilst using it. I don't have experience of results post the sub.

One thing I'd like to point out is that this is exactly what I was working on correcting in MLS 4.0.  That's why it has a heavy dose of FRM and uses DRS.  It's designed to improve on everything V3 did well, and correct everything it did not do well.  It actually has more focus on FRM than OF v2, which was quite a shock to see coming out of the models again, and again, and again... I have only ever seen that happen one other time, and that was with a sub focused on sex.  There is a lot of fear involved in getting to sex and achieving one's full potential.  

So don't think you need to do OF before MLS 4.  MLS 4 should take care of that for you.

Hi @Shannon I havent been on for a while and read your above reply regarding MLS having more FRM then OFv2.

As you may recall, my reasons for starting with ILM subs in 2015 was to overcome my procrastination (& subsequent fears) surrounding learning and particularly academic learning (as im a mature student in university).

I am currently about to start my 9th cycle of OFv2, thus my 9th week, reducing the volume to 7/15 for this 9th cycle using US if you recall via my s10 samsung phone.

So far I havent felt or noticed any change or difference whatsoever, and would continue to go as low as 3/15 as you mentioned may be needed for some folks.

I having read what you said regarding a stronger/better/improved FRM (if I understood correctly) being in MLS and having read that MLS also deals with procrastination and lack of focus and motivation around studying as well as fear (anxiety, stress etc) based upon learning makes me now wonder shall I change to MLS?

I did 45 days of OFv1 then bought and changed to OFv2 as i am committed to actually get executing with your subs and get over my issues. So what do you suggest and advise please?

If you do suggest I change to MLS, then how shall I considering ill be in a the 9th cycle of OFv2, ie: Do i need some time off before starting MLS etc?

Im just really trying here mate, thanks.

Shannon, since i change my volume variable to 4/15, should i reset my previous 6 loops (based on autoconfig) to 3 loops or just keep going with my current loop?

Switch only one variable at a time.

How often should you switch variables for those that are not excecuting?
Is a week good?

Yes.  If you're changing volume, then generally you should be setting it to where you think is the best option, and adjusting it one notch per week.