Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5

[Kol]

Funny you mention that as I was musing about my ums run and my current dmsi run. On UMS I carpetbombed to try to break through. Headaches, what headaches? Ignore and keep going. Now that I run DMSI, I stick to 4 loops as per instruction. Ive done 6, but less loops is so good. I think the new setup that has been given for ums ( 3days on 2 loops, then some days off ) is a wise decision.

For me, I think carpetbombing was surely an overdoing. Its not 5g tech anymore. And its about execution anyway. Now that ive reduced loops per instruction, the results keep compounding. Way less confusion, way more enjoyment.

[Kol]

Dear Shannon, I've been meaning to let you know this for weeks and it kept slipping my mind to tell you.
Ok so : Feedback..... UMS1 is STILL working in the background, no bull. its been almost 3 months,since I switched over from UMS1 to DRS, April 3rd to be exact,I remember exactly because I was so thrilled to test drive this puppy and take it out for a spin,including doing doughnuts!! Ha!!   I Just got a suprise gift of straight up cash, but also even more noticeable to me,is the synchronistic  parts, right place right time, two things showing up at the same time,lots of synchronistic kind of thing,timing wise and other wise, I dont mean it in avalanches ..just subtle but noticeable 'line up's' in life on a regular. must be the USLM part and some other 'things' in UMS still at work. Hey Man Im not complaining,as the saying goes!   Loving it.

Can hardly wait,as you well know,ha! fer UMS2 to be out with da platinum lake build',DRS,FRM4.9 and goodness knows what ever else,comes outta your 'energetic tool box' - a gold carborator,that sucks money to us ,rapidly, like a vacuum cleaner 'er som' som'' !! ??? ha,

Same here! Ums effects are still here, even after running refresher and now DMSI, I still have the ums flareup goody goodies

[ncbeareatingman]

Shannon's quote from a few weeks ago,in my journal.
"It will take me at least 2 weeks to upgrade the script and build LTU or UMS. Each stage will take a minimum of 8-10 hours of actual build time once the script is finished being upgraded. Most likely 3-4 weeks. But the result should be a much better approach to both programs actually achieving their goals. It will be worth the time and effort."
Me:
OK....but theres a new sheriff in town,Man,and things have changed,and His Name is New Platinum Lake Build....so my guess-timation for each 6 stage program build( be it UMS2 or LTU6),would be a total of 6 weeks or so, per title,all things,weighed out and considered. I know you've not gotten to them,yet,but when you do, doing the math on how much longer PLB ( Platimum Lake Build) takes to build and is more than worth it,I want to point out( Look at OF already,comin in with some very impressive results and that,this early on in the game stretch of 8 months) and indeed will be worth the time and effort!!
I could see UMS2 out in September,if its built second in line. I wanna be prepared for such in case that is the case. Im not saying it will be,but Im reserving the right to be reserved about it,all. good morning Gents and good day,too! Keith we

[Shannon]

Dear Shannon, I've been meaning to let you know this for weeks and it kept slipping my mind to tell you.
Ok so : Feedback..... UMS1 is STILL working in the background, no bull. its been almost 3 months,since I switched over from UMS1 to DRS, April 3rd to be exact,I remember exactly because I was so thrilled to test drive this puppy and take it out for a spin,including doing doughnuts!! Ha!!   I Just got a suprise gift of straight up cash, but also even more noticeable to me,is the synchronistic  parts, right place right time, two things showing up at the same time,lots of synchronistic kind of thing,timing wise and other wise, I dont mean it in avalanches ..just subtle but noticeable 'line up's' in life on a regular. must be the USLM part and some other 'things' in UMS still at work. Hey Man Im not complaining,as the saying goes!   Loving it.

Can hardly wait,as you well know,ha! fer UMS2 to be out with da platinum lake build',DRS,FRM4.9 and goodness knows what ever else,comes outta your 'energetic tool box' - a gold carborator,that sucks money to us ,rapidly, like a vacuum cleaner 'er som' som'' !! ??? ha,

Good to hear!  It doesn't really surprise me too much, since UMS encourages growth, which will mean that once it is accomplished, old limitations will no longer "fit".

[Shannon]

I have read a few threads where people were carpetbombing when they thought they were in resistance with the sub. I understand that by doing more and pushing they hope to "break through" the wall of resistance.
How do we know that it is helping or not helping in each case? I mean of course in the moment when the mind starts cooperating it helped. But the questions is more like "how long should we use the method of carpetbombing and after which time is it necessary to try a new method?"
A have seen it a few times on the forum and on myself that in the beginning I begin to execute the script a bit and then it goes into nothing (=interpreted as resistance of the mind). A lot of times the users answer with a lot more loops while the answer could also mean less loops, for the mind to "allow" it and accept it instead of brute force it.

"Carpet bombing" is not recommended.  It is only going to be useful for a very, very small number of people.  The idea behind it is that where there is resistance, the program does not have enough influence to overcome the resistance, so more exposure is necessary to achieve that.  But nobody wants to do things in a scientific manner, which would be slowly incrementing the amounts until you hit the sweet spot.

Going too far is just as bad as not going far enough.

[Shannon]

Shannon's quote from a few weeks ago,in my journal.
"It will take me at least 2 weeks to upgrade the script and build LTU or UMS. Each stage will take a minimum of 8-10 hours of actual build time once the script is finished being upgraded. Most likely 3-4 weeks. But the result should be a much better approach to both programs actually achieving their goals. It will be worth the time and effort."
Me:
OK....but theres a new sheriff in town,Man,and things have changed,and His Name is  New Platinum Lake Build....so my guess-timation for each 6 stage program build( be it UMS2 or LTU6),would be a total of 6 weeks or so, per title,all things,weighed out and considered. I know you've not gotten to them,yet,but when you do, doing the math on how much longer PLB ( Platimum Lake Build) takes to build and is more than worth it,I want to point out( Look at OF already,comin in with some very impressive results and that,this early on in the game stretch of 8 months) and indeed will be worth the time and effort!!
I could see UMS2 out in September,if its built second in line. I wanna  be prepared for such in case that is the case. Im not saying it will be,but Im reserving the right to be reserved about it,all. good morning Gents and good day,too! Keith we

The difference in build time between the Platinum Lake build method and the previous one is that PL takes about 150% longer to build in most cases.  So for 6 stage set, it will no longer take 6 days to actually build the audio for stages 1-6, it will take about 9.

For LTU6, we can't add new titles.  It's already at the limit.  So what we can do is optimize the existing Key and Core scripts, and upgrade the skeleton script with things like FRM 4.9, turning on DRS (if possible), and updating the rest of the skeleton script to the latest standards and status.

UMS will have the same, but may be getting new goals also.  I will see what you guys have suggested, pick what isn't already present that I think can add to what it already includes, and then run those options through the models to determine whether or not they'll go in.

I don't know how long these will take to build, but I'm hoping it doesn't take too long.

[KingDavid93]

Hi @Shannon

The last few days that I have taken off from OF I have been experiencing increasing levels of exhaustion- could this be attributed to OF?

Today for example I had a lot of trouble getting out of bed I took a bunch of vitamins with lots of b complex to wake me up

[Shannon]

It is very possible. I'm experiencing a lot more energy being used and so is my GF. It doubtless takes a lot of energy to do this and make progress while keeping the process calm and orderly.

[AbundanceCH]

Shannon, is the detox subliminal you have available powerful enough to detoxify the body from vaccines? If not could you make it a goal for the script of the next version to detoxify the body of any and all vaccines?

Also from what i've researched into chemtrails we are getting all this stuff into our brain and our bodies. Does the detoxify subliminal work to detoxify the brain?

[Shannon]

Shannon, is the detox subliminal you have available powerful enough to detoxify the body from vaccines? If not could you make it a goal for the script of the next version to detoxify the body of any and all vaccines?

I don't think you understand what a vaccine is, and what it does.  Or why people are against vaccines.

A vaccine is usually made by taking the infecting agent and either weakening it or killing it, and this gives your body the chance to detect the invader and prepare a defense without having to fight it.  In some cases, vaccines may include things like antibodies and other aspects of what your immune system uses to defend against a particular invader.  

The issue people have with vaccines is that some of them in the past have been made with preservatives that included undesirable chemicals in them.  Typically, that is something like a derivative of mercury.

You cannot detoxify the body of viruses or antibodies, as they are not toxins in and of themselves.  You can detoxify the body of the toxins they release when they die.  The amount of toxins from the viruses in a vaccine shot is small enough that you don't need to worry about it.  Once the vaccine is in your body, it gets flushed out within a short period of time and the only thing that remains is the boost to your immune system's ability to find and fight that specific pathogen that the vaccine is helping you fight.  

The toxins in the serum that it is contained in, if there are any, are going to be things that would be flushed out of your body normally in most cases, and in the case of things like mercury, will be affected by Universal Detox already.  However, those toxins and preservatives - at least in the case of manufacture in the United States - are, as far as I know, not in use anymore and have not been for decades.

Also from what i've researched into chemtrails we are getting all this stuff into our brain and our bodies.  Does the detoxify subliminal work to detoxify the brain?

You'll need to take "chemtrails" with a large grain of salt.  While you can find all sorts of stuff on them online, that doesn't make their existence a reality.  

If they exist, the reality is that physics and chemistry argue against them on basis of cost and dilution alone.  You really cannot easily comprehend how vast the ocean of air is in the atmosphere.  It would be about like putting a gallon of gasoline in all the world's oceans combined... there is 326 million trillion gallons of water in all the earth's oceans.  So if we say there is as much air as there is water on earth (and my bet would be there is a heck of a lot more air than water), then we have a dilution rate of 1 part per 326 million trillion parts of air.  They don't even have the methods to measure that small an amount.  It might as well not exist.  And you could have hundreds of planes flying around the world making these chemtrails every day for a thousand years before it would become detectable in the atmosphere.  That's to say nothing of the effects on whatever chemicals they would be spraying from various forms of solar radiation, chemical reactions with oxygen, ozone and other chemicals and elements, and so on which would break them down and turn them into something else.

But, if they do exist, Universal Detox will trigger your body to detox itself to the best of its ability regardless.

[ncbeareatingman]

Shannon's quote from a few weeks ago,in my journal.
"It will take me at least 2 weeks to upgrade the script and build LTU or UMS. Each stage will take a minimum of 8-10 hours of actual build time once the script is finished being upgraded. Most likely 3-4 weeks. But the result should be a much better approach to both programs actually achieving their goals. It will be worth the time and effort."
Me:
OK....but theres a new sheriff in town,Man,and things have changed,and His Name is  New Platinum Lake Build....so my guess-timation for each 6 stage program build( be it UMS2 or LTU6),would be a total of 6 weeks or so, per title,all things,weighed out and considered. I know you've not gotten to them,yet,but when you do, doing the math on how much longer PLB ( Platimum Lake Build) takes to build and is more than worth it,I want to point out( Look at OF already,comin in with some very impressive results and that,this early on in the game stretch of 8 months) and indeed will be worth the time and effort!!
I could see UMS2 out in September,if its built second in line. I wanna  be prepared for such in case that is the case. Im not saying it will be,but Im reserving the right to be reserved about it,all. good morning Gents and good day,too! Keith we

The difference in build time between the Platinum Lake build method and the previous one is that PL takes about 150% longer to build in most cases.  So for 6 stage set, it will no longer take 6 days to actually build the audio for stages 1-6, it will take about 9.

For LTU6, we can't add new titles.  It's already at the limit.  So what we can do is optimize the existing Key and Core scripts, and upgrade the skeleton script with things like FRM 4.9, turning on DRS (if possible), and updating the rest of the skeleton script to the latest standards and status.

UMS will have the same, but may be getting new goals also.  I will see what you guys have suggested, pick what isn't already present that I think can add to what it already includes, and then run those options through the models to determine whether or not they'll go in.

I don't know how long these will take to build, but I'm hoping it doesn't take too long.

 OK well thank you letting me know what you can and what you know thus far. whew thats a mouthful. I saw voting page for 4.9 FRM -DMSI relate,page,at first I was like 'damn,gotta wait that much more' but by the time I went and signed in and came back to respond herer,which I've been meaning to do ,since 2 days ago, Then I remembered something.
Griffin man's approach. The longer it takes, the better the technology will be,yea! The latest and greatest!! Encouraging!

  Sooooo we wait. One of the main reasons is Ding dang it,I want to be hooked on phonic's,oppps having  flash backs of da 80's,Marty ,back to da Future.... ok here we are again in present time, is that Fear Remover 4.9 is such a game changer man and all the dudes are having such a powerful time with it,including Shannon,himself,His GF and so on!!

  Wow. I felt left behind,sorta...I could purchase Overcome Fears,right  now,but hell,UMS2 would be out by the time I got 6 weeks into 'er sooner, if I were to run OF,I'd really wanna commit to the whole Kit n' kaboodle,Man. argh!!
 However the good n groovy news is that DRS,FRM 4.9, Platinum Lake build,and some good good goodies are gonna be in the New and Improved UMS2. Sooo we do our best to stay groovy and at attention for all things unfolding thru IML's & in Life!!
 Thanks none the less fer sharing the latest,Shannon. Keith.

[Shannon]

Shannon's quote from a few weeks ago,in my journal.
"It will take me at least 2 weeks to upgrade the script and build LTU or UMS. Each stage will take a minimum of 8-10 hours of actual build time once the script is finished being upgraded. Most likely 3-4 weeks. But the result should be a much better approach to both programs actually achieving their goals. It will be worth the time and effort."
Me:
OK....but theres a new sheriff in town,Man,and things have changed,and His Name is  New Platinum Lake Build....so my guess-timation for each 6 stage program build( be it UMS2 or LTU6),would be a total of 6 weeks or so, per title,all things,weighed out and considered. I know you've not gotten to them,yet,but when you do, doing the math on how much longer PLB ( Platimum Lake Build) takes to build and is more than worth it,I want to point out( Look at OF already,comin in with some very impressive results and that,this early on in the game stretch of 8 months) and indeed will be worth the time and effort!!
I could see UMS2 out in September,if its built second in line. I wanna  be prepared for such in case that is the case. Im not saying it will be,but Im reserving the right to be reserved about it,all. good morning Gents and good day,too! Keith we

The difference in build time between the Platinum Lake build method and the previous one is that PL takes about 150% longer to build in most cases.  So for 6 stage set, it will no longer take 6 days to actually build the audio for stages 1-6, it will take about 9.

For LTU6, we can't add new titles.  It's already at the limit.  So what we can do is optimize the existing Key and Core scripts, and upgrade the skeleton script with things like FRM 4.9, turning on DRS (if possible), and updating the rest of the skeleton script to the latest standards and status.

UMS will have the same, but may be getting new goals also.  I will see what you guys have suggested, pick what isn't already present that I think can add to what it already includes, and then run those options through the models to determine whether or not they'll go in.

I don't know how long these will take to build, but I'm hoping it doesn't take too long.

 OK well thank you letting me know what you can and what you know thus far. whew thats a mouthful. I saw voting page for 4.9 FRM -DMSI relate,page,at first I was like 'damn,gotta wait that much more' but by the time I went and signed in and came back to respond herer,which I've been meaning to do ,since 2 days ago, Then I remembered something.
Griffin man's approach. The longer it takes, the better the technology will be,yea! The latest and greatest!! Encouraging!

    Sooooo we wait. One of the main reasons is Ding dang it,I want to be hooked on phonic's,oppps having  flash backs of da 80's,Marty ,back to da Future.... ok here we are again in present time, is that Fear Remover 4.9 is such a game changer man and all the dudes are having such a powerful time with it,including Shannon,himself,His GF and so on!!

  Wow. I felt left behind,sorta...I could purchase Overcome Fears,right  now,but hell,UMS2 would be out by the time I got 6 weeks into 'er sooner, if I were to run OF,I'd really wanna commit to the whole Kit n' kaboodle,Man. argh!!
 However the good n groovy news is that DRS,FRM 4.9, Platinum Lake build,and some good good goodies are gonna be in the New and Improved UMS2. Sooo we do our best to stay groovy and at attention for all things unfolding thru IML's & in Life!!
 Thanks none the less fer sharing the latest,Shannon. Keith.

Just set that money aside and let me work my magic.  I know it's frustrating to wait so long, but if you want the best hand crafted subliminals in the world, well, I can only work so fast and do it right.  : Unfortunately going faster isn't possible.  But remember, not only is it better quality the longer you wait, but it's also more appreciated.  And you wouldn't be so impatient if I was willing to do it fast instead of right, because it wouldn't be worth getting impatient for.

[ncbeareatingman]

Shannon's quote from a few weeks ago,in my journal.
"It will take me at least 2 weeks to upgrade the script and build LTU or UMS. Each stage will take a minimum of 8-10 hours of actual build time once the script is finished being upgraded. Most likely 3-4 weeks. But the result should be a much better approach to both programs actually achieving their goals. It will be worth the time and effort."
Me:
OK....but theres a new sheriff in town,Man,and things have changed,and His Name is  New Platinum Lake Build....so my guess-timation for each 6 stage program build( be it UMS2 or LTU6),would be a total of 6 weeks or so, per title,all things,weighed out and considered. I know you've not gotten to them,yet,but when you do, doing the math on how much longer PLB ( Platimum Lake Build) takes to build and is more than worth it,I want to point out( Look at OF already,comin in with some very impressive results and that,this early on in the game stretch of 8 months) and indeed will be worth the time and effort!!
I could see UMS2 out in September,if its built second in line. I wanna  be prepared for such in case that is the case. Im not saying it will be,but Im reserving the right to be reserved about it,all. good morning Gents and good day,too! Keith we

The difference in build time between the Platinum Lake build method and the previous one is that PL takes about 150% longer to build in most cases.  So for 6 stage set, it will no longer take 6 days to actually build the audio for stages 1-6, it will take about 9.

For LTU6, we can't add new titles.  It's already at the limit.  So what we can do is optimize the existing Key and Core scripts, and upgrade the skeleton script with things like FRM 4.9, turning on DRS (if possible), and updating the rest of the skeleton script to the latest standards and status.

UMS will have the same, but may be getting new goals also.  I will see what you guys have suggested, pick what isn't already present that I think can add to what it already includes, and then run those options through the models to determine whether or not they'll go in.

I don't know how long these will take to build, but I'm hoping it doesn't take too long.

 OK well thank you letting me know what you can and what you know thus far. whew thats a mouthful. I saw voting page for 4.9 FRM -DMSI relate,page,at first I was like 'damn,gotta wait that much more' but by the time I went and signed in and came back to respond herer,which I've been meaning to do ,since 2 days ago, Then I remembered something.
Griffin man's approach. The longer it takes, the better the technology will be,yea! The latest and greatest!! Encouraging!

    Sooooo we wait. One of the main reasons is Ding dang it,I want to be hooked on phonic's,oppps having  flash backs of da 80's,Marty ,back to da Future.... ok here we are again in present time, is that Fear Remover 4.9 is such a game changer man and all the dudes are having such a powerful time with it,including Shannon,himself,His GF and so on!!

  Wow. I felt left behind,sorta...I could purchase Overcome Fears,right  now,but hell,UMS2 would be out by the time I got 6 weeks into 'er sooner, if I were to run OF,I'd really wanna commit to the whole Kit n' kaboodle,Man. argh!!
 However the good n groovy news is that DRS,FRM 4.9, Platinum Lake build,and some good good goodies are gonna be in the New and Improved UMS2. Sooo we do our best to stay groovy and at attention for all things unfolding thru IML's & in Life!!
 Thanks none the less fer sharing the latest,Shannon. Keith.

Just set that money aside and let me work my magic.  I know it's frustrating to wait so long, but if you want the best hand crafted subliminals in the world, well, I can only work so fast and do it right.  : Unfortunately going faster isn't possible.  But remember, not only is it better quality the longer you wait, but it's also more appreciated.  And you wouldn't be so impatient if I was willing to do it fast instead of right, because it wouldn't be worth getting impatient for.

 OH Im cool as a cucumber about it man,I really am. impateint  a little but more so excited,encouraged and enthused. like I said and meant it too, the longer the wait the better the over all the product. I'll have the money set aside for shure,no prob. you just do your magic like you said and it'll all  pan out. I've  got plenty to keep me cleared,to keep me busy both internal work as well as external work,alike. some major shifts are starting to  shake in my world and its a damn good sign. keep rockin' it man, I know you're moving as fast as you can. the ding dang thing about being  online,in chat,blog or journal is that ,way too often what you really are saying and whats being interpeted can be so cris-crossed,mixed,and/or misunderstood. Beside Im gonna be impatient regardless, I have a lotta wonderful qualities patience has never been a high one for me. Love and Light Man. yawl keep groovin to OF and I'll keep plugging away with DRS and we'll meet in da middle sometime, in august 'er September. welcome to Jooo-ly!!

PS: I think that natural calmness (some would 'term' it patience) will be an outcome of utlizing Fear Remover 4.9 when the time comes, fore you see Shannon,one of my core challenges,one of my deepest issues is "fear of not getting what I want-fear of not getting my needs met"stuff. thats where the impatience comes in,since I was a child in the 60's. I know over time this and many other connected fear based 'thoughts' & energies WILL indeed get handled,as such and so here I am opening up about some deep stuff,that runs with me, why not after K-train,Chris P. Bacon(ha!) and RTBoss,already have,and in and with respect so am I. damn it, if I cant be on the remover fears track with the rest of the team,I shure as hell can keep up by being just as open and deep,too!! Salute!!

[TouchyCat]

Is there a confirmation issue? I just purchased OF 5.75G yet subliminal-shop webpage still says "Pending Payment."