Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5

[Shannon]

How about Grow Taller Shannon? Isn't it possible to make it work for the majority of people with the current technology? Like a second growth spurt or something for those in their 20's or even 30's. That would be awesome. I don't know how well its 5g version has sold but i think quite a lot of people would want it. Me included 

I will have to make a poll.

[ncbeareatingman]

I should be done with Stage 1 in 1 to 3 days. Then i need to release something that will result in sales.

Now that I have built Stage 1 of UMSv2 and i know how it goes and how to optimize it i may be able to build Stage 2 and 3 next month,

Me"
We Have Faith and Confidence in you and your abilities.
I thought that months ago,that when it came down to it,that stage 1 of UMSv2 would take a while,but then 2 & 3 could more than likely be done in a one month period...... I really did
and then today,I though, and then hey SHannon, stage 4 you've really got it down and now your home free...home stretch,so to speak in August..... I and IM shure others as well, hope it goes that way.
Heck by the 3rd week of July you might be well into stage 4,but I dont wanna push it. We certainly will see. for shure. thanks for your hard work Man
and I truly see why you'd not want to use that mechanic shop again.

[samba99]

Wonderful news about UMS v2 stage one being ready in 1 to 3 days

Shannon,
How far are you from the step which you calculate the ASRB?

That depends on if I ever get my car back to drive home. 

I'm actually not sure we need ASRB built in anymore. That was useful in part because of how many loops were required. We may now be to the point that the loops are so low that ASRB is unnecessary.

ASRB2 will remain.

When I left off last night I was almost finished with audio processing.  Probably 2 or 3 more hours left to finish building it. But at this rate I'll get home and it'll be time for bed.

Once that part is done I need to upload and figure out ASRB2. BUT I'm pretty sure this oil change will kill my whole day at this point, and I will never use this particular mechanic again.

That's amazing Shannon. Sorry to hear about the long waiting time for oil change. 

UMSv2 stage 1 seems very close now. Thank you for working on it, I think it will be a win win for us. More money for us is more for you indeed. 

Just by designing this and making it, are you excited enough to actually run and use the program? It seems like you are confident with what this program will deliver. 

This is indeed exciting, on another note, maybe DMSI will come out as 3.75.8 who knows

[CatMan]

Do we have a timeline of upcoming subs? I heard that DMSI is next followed by universal healing.  Anything else after that?

Im just thinking wouldnt it be better to see just how well FRM 5.0 works before getting a DMSI out?

No. I can tell you from first hand experience, and so can the overwhelming majority of users, that it works quite well.  The challenge is turning it outwardly.

@Shannon I saw a girl, she was hot and I had a face mask so the thought that the mask would get in the way occurred to me and I left it. Its made me want to ask you that if and once DMSI fulls what its hoped it will do then can it work on a girl a guy likes even if...

a) he has a face mask on

b) he see's her but she hasnt seen him or they havent made eye contact 

c) if all they have is once made eye contact?

just random thoughts that came to mind due to this 1 incident today.

Thanks mate

It won't matter if he is even present. It will pull regardless, as long as she is the primary focus.

I still am confused as to how that can work. I think you said once that a pic of a girl you like, is enough to trigger the program somehow? Maybe you did, it was forever it seems now. This seems so fantastical to me.

Whenever this program gets released, and we're out of this situation we're all in, I look forward to testing this sub out and hopefully finally seeing what it is capable of.

Today, I'm getting my second dose. Small step towards normalcy again, I suppose.

It can work because the way reality works is that the space-time thing is an illusion. It is possible to connect to anyone anywhere on the planet through thought energy or emotions and not only do so and do so instantly but communicate in real "time" instantly once you have. 

Seeing an image of someone can focus you on that person and act as the focus key for making that connection the same as if you saw them in person.

Distance does not really exist. All of this time-space crap is the interpretation of the physical nervous system based on its limits. "Modern science" has discovered some of the tells for this but doesn't yet realize what they are because they still think space-time is real.

That's how and why it can work.

Even if it is someone you don't have any rapport with currently or even know? I think it's something I'd need to see to believe, either way. Overall, the program is such a polar opposite extreme from where I am now with women, so it's hard to conceptualise such a thing as above from this point with women.

We'll see when V3.4 comes out, and some degree of normalcy occurs for us all to allow an environment to test. Then again, maybe that isn't needed with this new revelation of what it can do. So, would I just need to look at a pic for example? Or some kind of focus etc.? Then they would contact me or seek me out somehow? If so, how does the person who doesn't know me yet accomplish this if they don't have contact info?

I mean, I want to believe, but I'm trying to wrap my head around the logistics of such a thing.

P.S. Grow Taller sounds intriguing, I wrote it off until 6G due to your post awhile ago about it when someone asked. I'm sure that'd sell, just not sure if a physical sub would work now. I know a physical sub as well that could be made also and would sell well...lol .

[Shannon]

I should be done with Stage 1 in 1 to 3 days. Then i need to release something that will result in sales.

Now that I have built Stage 1 of UMSv2 and i know how it goes and how to optimize it i may be able to build Stage 2 and 3 next month,

Me"
We  Have Faith and Confidence in you and your abilities.
I thought that months ago,that when it came down to it,that stage 1 of UMSv2 would take a while,but then 2 & 3 could more than likely be done in a one month period...... I really did
and then today,I though, and then hey SHannon, stage 4 you've really got it down and now your home free...home stretch,so to speak in August..... I and IM shure others as well, hope it goes that way.
 Heck by the 3rd week of July you might be well into stage 4,but I dont wanna push it. We certainly will see. for shure. thanks for your hard work Man
and I truly see why you'd not want to use that mechanic shop again.

I almost certainly will be at my limits building 2 programs in one month, and if I manage to build 3 it will be close to a miracle.  Which means next month, I will build Stage 2 of UMSv2, then something to pull in some money, then if I have time I will work on Stage 3.

As it turns out, the mechanic shop says they called me hours before I went in to check on my car.  Which would mean I sat there waiting for hours... in a dead zone for my phone.  On the one hand, it's the first time that's ever happened, which is very suspicious.  On the other hand, I was waiting in a place that is only just recently available to wait in, and it was my first time there.  

At least I stayed calm and didn't lose it on them.  But the time it takes for them to get things done regardless is a bit much, and I caught them in what I'm about 95% sure is a flat out lie while trying to sell me tires today.  So I'm thinking I'll go looking for a new mechanic regardless.

[Shannon]

Wonderful news about UMS v2 stage one being ready in 1 to 3 days

Shannon,
How far are you from the step which you calculate the ASRB?

That depends on if I ever get my car back to drive home. 

I'm actually not sure we need ASRB built in anymore. That was useful in part because of how many loops were required. We may now be to the point that the loops are so low that ASRB is unnecessary.

ASRB2 will remain.

When I left off last night I was almost finished with audio processing.  Probably 2 or 3 more hours left to finish building it. But at this rate I'll get home and it'll be time for bed.

Once that part is done I need to upload and figure out ASRB2. BUT I'm pretty sure this oil change will kill my whole day at this point, and I will never use this particular mechanic again.

That's amazing Shannon. Sorry to hear about the long waiting time for oil change. 

UMSv2 stage 1 seems very close now. Thank you for working on it, I think it will be a win win for us. More money for us is more for you indeed. 

Just by designing this and making it, are you excited enough to actually run and use the program? It seems like you are confident with what this program will deliver. 

This is indeed exciting, on another note, maybe DMSI will come out as 3.75.8 who knows

I had planned to run it as soon as it was built.  I want to.  I even had TID at one point.  But at this time, I am not sure it's a good idea for me to stop using OFv3.  It is doing amazing things for me, and GF is showing signs of having it do things for her that I don't think any sub I have exposed her to has ever been able to do before.  So I'll have to run the models on that one, but for the moment I'm favoring continuing the OF run for a while.  Some of the fears I see this dealing with for us are pretty major, and I don't want to interrupt it while it's doing this work.

But I am definitely going to run UMSv2 as soon as I can.  You bet.

[CatMan]

I should be done with Stage 1 in 1 to 3 days. Then i need to release something that will result in sales.

Now that I have built Stage 1 of UMSv2 and i know how it goes and how to optimize it i may be able to build Stage 2 and 3 next month,

Me"
We  Have Faith and Confidence in you and your abilities.
I thought that months ago,that when it came down to it,that stage 1 of UMSv2 would take a while,but then 2 & 3 could more than likely be done in a one month period...... I really did
and then today,I though, and then hey SHannon, stage 4 you've really got it down and now your home free...home stretch,so to speak in August..... I and IM shure others as well, hope it goes that way.
 Heck by the 3rd week of July you might be well into stage 4,but I dont wanna push it. We certainly will see. for shure. thanks for your hard work Man
and I truly see why you'd not want to use that mechanic shop again.

I almost certainly will be at my limits building 2 programs in one month, and if I manage to build 3 it will be close to a miracle.  Which means next month, I will build Stage 2 of UMSv2, then something to pull in some money, then if I have time I will work on Stage 3.

As it turns out, the mechanic shop says they called me hours before I went in to check on my car.  Which would mean I sat there waiting for hours... in a dead zone for my phone.  On the one hand, it's the first time that's ever happened, which is very suspicious.  On the other hand, I was waiting in a place that is only just recently available to wait in, and it was my first time there.  

At least I stayed calm and didn't lose it on them.  But the time it takes for them to get things done regardless is a bit much, and I caught them in what I'm about 95% sure is a flat out lie while trying to sell me tires today.  So I'm thinking I'll go looking for a new mechanic regardless.

I had to deal with a similar problem with a mechanic for someone in my family recently. This situation we're in predictably leads to BS'ing in these kinds of jobs to invent business/income. Just is what it is. I sympathise.

[Shannon]

Im just thinking wouldnt it be better to see just how well FRM 5.0 works before getting a DMSI out?

No. I can tell you from first hand experience, and so can the overwhelming majority of users, that it works quite well.  The challenge is turning it outwardly.

@Shannon I saw a girl, she was hot and I had a face mask so the thought that the mask would get in the way occurred to me and I left it. Its made me want to ask you that if and once DMSI fulls what its hoped it will do then can it work on a girl a guy likes even if...

a) he has a face mask on

b) he see's her but she hasnt seen him or they havent made eye contact 

c) if all they have is once made eye contact?

just random thoughts that came to mind due to this 1 incident today.

Thanks mate

It won't matter if he is even present. It will pull regardless, as long as she is the primary focus.

I still am confused as to how that can work. I think you said once that a pic of a girl you like, is enough to trigger the program somehow? Maybe you did, it was forever it seems now. This seems so fantastical to me.

Whenever this program gets released, and we're out of this situation we're all in, I look forward to testing this sub out and hopefully finally seeing what it is capable of.

Today, I'm getting my second dose. Small step towards normalcy again, I suppose.

It can work because the way reality works is that the space-time thing is an illusion. It is possible to connect to anyone anywhere on the planet through thought energy or emotions and not only do so and do so instantly but communicate in real "time" instantly once you have. 

Seeing an image of someone can focus you on that person and act as the focus key for making that connection the same as if you saw them in person.

Distance does not really exist. All of this time-space crap is the interpretation of the physical nervous system based on its limits. "Modern science" has discovered some of the tells for this but doesn't yet realize what they are because they still think space-time is real.

That's how and why it can work.

Even if it is someone you don't have any rapport with currently or even know? I think it's something I'd need to see to believe, either way. Overall, the program is such a polar opposite extreme from where I am now with women, so it's hard to conceptualise such a thing as above from this point with women.

Yes, even then.  I don't blame you for being skeptical of it.  It's pretty unusual for people to be able to experience it on a conscious level in general.  I've been able to do it many times, even when the person was literally in Australia while I was in Florida.  If I can connect to a person emotionally - which seems to require the right kind of personality for success, and is relatively rare in general - I am able to read their emotional state as if I am feeling it as my own emotions, and I can on occasion also change their emotional state.  I have that sort of relationship with my GF, I can sometimes feel her emotions as my own sometimes.  I'm not so good at altering her emotional state through my emotions, though, since she seems to be a much stronger emotional projector than I am.  But I have seen this for myself and other people enough times to know without a doubt that it happens and is possible.  In rare cases, I have (years ago, when meeting strangers on the Internet was relatively safe) met women online and connected with them so strongly that I was able to tell them things about themselves that they'd never told anyone else in their entire lives.

But in your case, you use skepticism to fight the program, and I think at this point you have to know that.  So logically, working against that skepticism might be a good thing for you.

We'll see when V3.4 comes out, and some degree of normalcy occurs for us all to allow an environment to test. Then again, maybe that isn't needed with this new revelation of what it can do. So, would I just need to look at a pic for example? Or some kind of focus etc.? Then they would contact me or seek me out somehow? If so, how does the person who doesn't know me yet accomplish this if they don't have contact info?

I mean, I want to believe, but I'm trying to wrap my head around the logistics of such a thing.

If you use DMSI - even the current version - you can focus on a visual image of a person and connect to them this way, and affect them as if they are in the same room you are.  The requirements are that you have to execute the script; you have to be in a position where there are not other people you're very attracted to close enough to drain you of the energy necessary to do this (about 200 feet); and they must be extremely attractive to you sexually.  If you will recall, we have had some people report this sort of thing where people from a long distance reacted to them using the program.  

It should be better in 3.4, but before you can do anything, you have to execute.  It does not and never did require "belief".  Only execution.  And that is your particular downfall.  We shall see how FRM 5.0 works for you in that regard.

A person who doesn't know your contact info can't do anything about their attraction unless they have a way to locate you through the energy link, but I'm not sure that's possible.

P.S. Grow Taller sounds intriguing, I wrote it off until 6G due to your post awhile ago about it when someone asked. I'm sure that'd sell, just not sure if a physical sub would work now. I know a physical sub as well that could be made also and would sell well...lol .

I'm not convinced until I see it with my own eyes that a Grow Taller sub will ever be able to ignore fused growth plates in the bones.  We shall see.  That aside, are you referring to OED or IER?

[ncbeareatingman]

My response to reviewing the DMSI description page,after ages of not seeing it at all.


 I just went over to the DMSI description page, I wanted to verify something I'd thought was so,that in fact it is indeed for ANY one to Use and benefit from....its been so long since I even wanted to go there.....Geez Man this thing is  a MONSTER program.wow.
 talk about all the bells and whistles,kitchen sink , the carburetor & Chassis ! dang. to say this burrito is loaded with all the  works is almost unbelievable. dang its got it all. wow.

[ncbeareatingman]

Hi Hoooo Silver!!

Ex: "
5bd558d36876a6a6383e676fdd81ad93bfe885c22f60c6064a0a27dd926ac815 Ultimate_Monetary_Success_v2_Stage_1_5757G_Hybrid_Subliminal_(Trickling_Stream_Silent).mp3 "

Yes !! UMSv2 is well on the way.....not quite here yet,but lets put it this way, the Stork is ready and 'the water has broken"
Yee haw. not my best anology but it'll work under duress,fer now.


I wont be using these anytime soon...but MY Vote for upcoming creations would be E5 and then MHS after that.....Universal Healing sounds amazing though. the potential seem incredible with the new tech and all. Go 5.75.7 !!! Wow!!

[Jake2015]

No. I can tell you from first hand experience, and so can the overwhelming majority of users, that it works quite well.  The challenge is turning it outwardly.


It won't matter if he is even present. It will pull regardless, as long as she is the primary focus.

I still am confused as to how that can work. I think you said once that a pic of a girl you like, is enough to trigger the program somehow? Maybe you did, it was forever it seems now. This seems so fantastical to me.

Whenever this program gets released, and we're out of this situation we're all in, I look forward to testing this sub out and hopefully finally seeing what it is capable of.

Today, I'm getting my second dose. Small step towards normalcy again, I suppose.

It can work because the way reality works is that the space-time thing is an illusion. It is possible to connect to anyone anywhere on the planet through thought energy or emotions and not only do so and do so instantly but communicate in real "time" instantly once you have. 

Seeing an image of someone can focus you on that person and act as the focus key for making that connection the same as if you saw them in person.

Distance does not really exist. All of this time-space crap is the interpretation of the physical nervous system based on its limits. "Modern science" has discovered some of the tells for this but doesn't yet realize what they are because they still think space-time is real.

That's how and why it can work.

Even if it is someone you don't have any rapport with currently or even know? I think it's something I'd need to see to believe, either way. Overall, the program is such a polar opposite extreme from where I am now with women, so it's hard to conceptualise such a thing as above from this point with women.

Yes, even then.  I don't blame you for being skeptical of it.  It's pretty unusual for people to be able to experience it on a conscious level in general.  I've been able to do it many times, even when the person was literally in Australia while I was in Florida.  If I can connect to a person emotionally - which seems to require the right kind of personality for success, and is relatively rare in general - I am able to read their emotional state as if I am feeling it as my own emotions, and I can on occasion also change their emotional state.  I have that sort of relationship with my GF, I can sometimes feel her emotions as my own sometimes.  I'm not so good at altering her emotional state through my emotions, though, since she seems to be a much stronger emotional projector than I am.  But I have seen this for myself and other people enough times to know without a doubt that it happens and is possible.  In rare cases, I have (years ago, when meeting strangers on the Internet was relatively safe) met women online and connected with them so strongly that I was able to tell them things about themselves that they'd never told anyone else in their entire lives.

But in your case, you use skepticism to fight the program, and I think at this point you have to know that.  So logically, working against that skepticism might be a good thing for you.

We'll see when V3.4 comes out, and some degree of normalcy occurs for us all to allow an environment to test. Then again, maybe that isn't needed with this new revelation of what it can do. So, would I just need to look at a pic for example? Or some kind of focus etc.? Then they would contact me or seek me out somehow? If so, how does the person who doesn't know me yet accomplish this if they don't have contact info?

I mean, I want to believe, but I'm trying to wrap my head around the logistics of such a thing.

If you use DMSI - even the current version - you can focus on a visual image of a person and connect to them this way, and affect them as if they are in the same room you are.  The requirements are that you have to execute the script; you have to be in a position where there are not other people you're very attracted to close enough to drain you of the energy necessary to do this (about 200 feet); and they must be extremely attractive to you sexually.  If you will recall, we have had some people report this sort of thing where people from a long distance reacted to them using the program.  

It should be better in 3.4, but before you can do anything, you have to execute.  It does not and never did require "belief".  Only execution.  And that is your particular downfall.  We shall see how FRM 5.0 works for you in that regard.

A person who doesn't know your contact info can't do anything about their attraction unless they have a way to locate you through the energy link, but I'm not sure that's possible.

P.S. Grow Taller sounds intriguing, I wrote it off until 6G due to your post awhile ago about it when someone asked. I'm sure that'd sell, just not sure if a physical sub would work now. I know a physical sub as well that could be made also and would sell well...lol .

I'm not convinced until I see it with my own eyes that a Grow Taller sub will ever be able to ignore fused growth plates in the bones.  We shall see.  That aside, are you referring to OED or IER?

Based on the above @Shannon:

1) Do the subs work even if a person is skeptic?

2) regarding DMSI working on someone with a mask on thank you for replying. Regarding working on someone not even in the same location or simply from a picture/photo. So what if that person is a celebrity that I and lets say 100 other DMSI uses always get attracted to whenever we see her photo/movie etc wont this counter everyones DMSI as we battle it out? 

2B) Also wont this result in turmoil for the said celebrity too either internally or perhaps externally with her relationshops with others/lovers etc?

Just some thoughts that came to mind regarding this but if DMSI can achieve all this, hell even a girl i like near me would be more than enough for me haha

Regarding what should be the next sub. Maybe a vote/poll could help since there may be a pressing matter for some such as growing taller, or breasts or hair or whatever that could take precedence.

as @CatMan said E4 would be a good one perhaps.

Personally for me since fear is the root of everything to make any sub work, im just going to focus on OF 4 and onwards until we really nail this.

Thanks

[Jake2015]

@Shannon on a seperate note I am going to now increase my loops to 2 a day rather than keep to the 1 day. Im currently on 2 days on and 2 days off.

I however have the urge to add a silent track before the 2 tracks start. Maybe of 30mins. No idea why I even have this urge, is this relevant in anyway?

[CatMan]

FRM 5.0 is having effects, yes. Early days yet, which is even more encouraging.

I was referring to IYPS. But, I remember your post about Grow Taller and how you had doubts it can work with current technology. If there's sufficient interest, up to you about whether to produce it before 6G, I guess. Would perhaps be an intriguing benchmark test as well as IYPS, to show progress possibly if nothing else.

[MegaMan]

FRM 5.0 is having effects, yes. Early days yet, which is even more encouraging.

I was referring to IYPS. But, I remember your post about Grow Taller and how you had doubts it can work with current technology. If there's sufficient interest, up to you about whether to produce it before 6G, I guess. Would perhaps be an intriguing benchmark test as well as IYPS, to show progress possibly if nothing else.

Could you please elaborate on what IYPS is? I didn't find it in the glossary. Thanks.