Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5

[Shannon]

Fairly good. I sleep better which is a huge plus. Im also happier and more optimistic in general. No major fear has been adressed, but its not expected since im still only one and a half week in.

You have the option of going back to the instructions or continuing along as you are.  I suspect you'll want to do as instructed if you switch to ultrasonic.  Otherwise, you will probably be fine regardless.  In this case, having you doing 2 loops per day may be useful for contrasting with other options, so I suggest staying with it unless there's a reason not to.

[Raykon]

Yes I want to read the crazy ass emails, just block out the names/emails of who sent it.

[K-Train]

+1 For the crazy emails.

[Qiel]

What do you guys think? Should we start a thread showing all the crazy-ass emails we get?

I think you should add that to the "Review" section on Subliminal-shop. It's win-win. Give the new customer who look up the salespage some insight what the subs could possibly do through factual reviews from the user.

It's a bit funny seeing the testimonial and description in one salespage yet the review section have zero testimonial.

Me as a new customer at first think that's a bit weird.

Luckily I found the forum.

Just my two cent.

[NOMAD]

Re: Crazy Ass Emails

Do it. We could all use a good laugh.

[Shannon]

What do you guys think? Should we start a thread showing all the crazy-ass emails we get?

I think you should add that to the "Review" section on Subliminal-shop. It's win-win. Give the new customer who look up the salespage some insight what the subs could possibly do through factual reviews from the user.

It's a bit funny seeing the testimonial and description in one salespage yet the review section have zero testimonial.

Me as a new customer at first think that's a bit weird.

Luckily I found the forum.

Just my two cent.

I think you misunderstand.  I'm talking about the emails like the one we got from someone who was utterly convinced that their dog talk to them, and send us video proof, which consisted of their dog just looking at them.  For example.

Or the ones where people are being unreasonable and abusive to us for refunding them after they demanded a refund.

That sort of thing.

Crazy shit.

I've long been contemplating sharing these things with the forum as a way of giving you guys a bit of insight into what we deal with on a regular basis from people who are different.

[Raykon]

aha that's wild, I thought you meant reviews as well. 

What do you guys think? Should we start a thread showing all the crazy-ass emails we get?

I think you should add that to the "Review" section on Subliminal-shop. It's win-win. Give the new customer who look up the salespage some insight what the subs could possibly do through factual reviews from the user.

It's a bit funny seeing the testimonial and description in one salespage yet the review section have zero testimonial.

Me as a new customer at first think that's a bit weird.

Luckily I found the forum.

Just my two cent.

I think you misunderstand.  I'm talking about the emails like the one we got from someone who was utterly convinced that their dog talk to them, and send us video proof, which consisted of their dog just looking at them.  For example.

Or the ones where people are being unreasonable and abusive to us for refunding them after they demanded a refund.

That sort of thing.

Crazy shit.

I've long been contemplating sharing these things with the forum as a way of giving you guys a bit of insight into what we deal with on a regular basis from people who are different.

[freerad98]

+1 for the emails. LOL at the example about the dog.

[Jake2015]

@Shannon You made a deal with me when I was on OF v2. That was that once I gave it the full 8months that you would then make UMOP3 for me.

Now im on OF 3 and more than happy to give it the full 6months as im at uni until december and then I finish pretty much forever. So would you be kind enough to do me a similar deal of a sub whether that be UMOP 3 or MLS or another that you and I work out would be best for me at that time and make it with the latest tech available at that time?

I say a sub that you and I work out as being best for me as after uni then my priorities may change though to still overcoming fear and procrastination perhaps but since ill be job hunting and then working in a high stressed industry where learning information on the job and away from it is crucial - coupled with the need to obtain success as quickly as possible - then it may be you may suggest a sub I have never tried before.

Thanks

All of your issues stem from fear.  Deal with that, and you won't need UMOP.  If you can use OFv3 for six months and not get results, making UMOP won't even matter, because you'll have proven that you can and will defeat my subs no matter what I do.  So you execute OF v3, and then we'll talk.  Remember that as far I know, you've found some way to weasel out of, self deceive, avoid, sabotage or otherwise escape everything you've ever used that I created, which makes me wonder why you keep buying and using my subs.  Also remember that if I had been operating in 5.75.6G or earlier, upgrading OFv2 to OFv3 would have required 3-4 days.  It took a month.  I'm already backlogged months and that's just the 3 subs I have on deck.  So I can't be making deals like this, especially when it's worth betting on that you're not going to execute.  Like I said, you execute OFv3 and then we can talk.

Thanks Man ok lets wait and see. In answer to your question the reason I still bought and used your sub partially has to be thanks to @CatMan After OF 2 I thought there would be no more OF coming until the release of 6G so I resigned to my fate that no need to purchase any more subs but catmans involvement and your agreeing has allowed OF 3 to happen.

Second reason is because I rather spend money in the hope I get success either from the sub or from data I can share to help me in a future program so why not.

Third I do believe you can crack the code and make me execute. You manage to come up with new ways of trying to get more to execute so whether that means you need to listen more to a sub such as UMS to help you or you just need to get more steak I dont know but im sure you will have me execute cos for you to have me not execute will probably annoy you as much as it annoys me lol

Fourthly FRM 5.0 is what happened to OF 2 as well as other things to become OF 3 so why not test and see if the sub really is more effective or not.

that aside I do have a question. Does caffeine affect the sub? I hardly drink water im mostly drinking caffeine pop/soda/soft drinks such as coca cola without sugar or english tea be it normal or decaf (which still has traces of caffeine). Could this be affecting my reasons for not executing in the past perhaps?

Jake I have nothing against you personally, but to be frank, you piss me off.  Now I have other customers who piss me off for similar reasons, and I grit my teeth and bear it because it can be good for developing the subs.  But in your case, you seem to be the most extreme example I have ever seen of a specific type of resistance that I may never have a solution to.  And that frustrates me to no end.

I of course want all of my customers to succeed, but with 5.75.7G we are close to finished with 6G and if this doesn't work for you, there's nothing left I can do.  The changes coming in 6G will probably not involve more power.  They will probably be refinements from here on out.

So at this point, your best hope is that you find the right usage pattern for OFv3.  You may need more loops per day, fewer days off, more days on, or some combination of these.  I am relatively confident that something like that will break through and I'm seeing hints that it's already breaking through, but I don't follow you too closely because the resistance you've always shown in the past frustrates me so much.

I want to help you, but at the same time, I am writing a list of instructions.  Very advanced, complex and intricate instructions, but they're just instructions.  And if you, whatever level of you, doesn't choose to execute them, then eventually there will be nothing left for me to do.  We are not far from that point.

I don't want you spending money again and again on things that don't get you results.  Some of my customers do that, and while it's more money in my pocket, it's very frustrating for me because I want you guys to get what you paid for.

I also don't want you filling the forum with "Shannon's subs do jack schitt for me" because you represent 1 in a million or less, and yet because most people who get results don't post here, it makes it look like those of you who come here asking for help or having a problem are in the majority, when in fact nothing could be further from the truth.  The forum is advertising for us, and this sort of misunderstanding really degrades our sales, which reduces our income, which lowers our R&D budget, which slows down R&D, which makes everything worse.  So of course I want you to succeed, but if nothing I do works for you, I also don't want people to think you're a typical case instead of the incredibly rare bonehead you are.

Before this version came out, I had written you off.  The models kept telling me that there was going to be a big jump in power before 6G came out, and it seems to have happened with 5.75.7G, so given what I have seen so far I think it's still a reasonable bet that this will work for you.  We just have to find the right exposure levels and timings, and that I don't have a problem helping you with.  But one of the biggest issues you have, I think, is that you don't want the goal, you don't want it enough, you don't want to take enough responsibility for your choices, and you want to have something to fall back on to blame for not being where you want to be.  In other words, if I give you a grocery list and 100 times you go to the store, buy nothing and come back empty handed, eventually I am going to stop doing that.  

That means that it's time to "shit or get off the pot", as mom used to say.  I'm always glad to help my customers, but I also don't have time to waste while people play games trying to avoid achieving, and dance around the goal.  If that happens too much or too long, sooner or later I'm going to have to say, "It's time for you to find something else that works better for you," and send you on your way.

I really don't want to do that, partly because I want you to succeed, and partly because finally breaking through would be a win-win for us both.  But if in the end my best isn't good enough... I'm going to have to send you on your way to find something that does work for you. 

OFv3 does not have state shift override active, but state shifting caused by drugs will still have effects.  I wonder if perhaps you don't use caffeine, etc. to avoid sleep so you can always be tired and have an excuse to avoid doing things you want with tiredness and sleep schedule as your excuse.

Thanks for that response Shannon I hear you. Im glad that OF may be breaking through as you and so many seem to feel it is or could be working for me thus I executing so lets see. Im glad that its for now only 1 loop with 2 days on and 3 off as that is easy for me to do without any issues or hiccups at all. All I need to do is play. Thank you for offering to help me when the time comes to tweak the protocols to see what is the sweet spot for me in terms of intensity and usage.

For me the best time to do that wont be when I reach day 15 but to wait for when im back at uni as then I can really work at doing this and monitoring it. I also feel it may be better for me to give each tweak not a week or 2 weeks but perhaps a month to see if it works or needs tweaking again simply based on my past with subs and perhaps on how this current sub is working for me. I think a month to see something before anything is tweaked makes more sense.

Also once im back at uni I will be there for 6months and have no plans to fly again back to the UK and thus have that mess up my listening (which it has done in the past) so we have nothing to lose but to work at this full steam ahead and with this I hope also to sort my regime both sleep, study, diet, exercise all in this 6months so if you or the models suggest I listen for 8hours then that is indeed more doable than before. I think with this sub the 1 loop has really helped whereas in the past the many long hours caused me stress to fit in.

Regarding sleep it all started around maybe 15years ago when i would stay up at night either to porn or chatting to a girl online that I fell for. We could chat for hours and hours online and then that pattern of staying up at night really stuck. Since then my lifestyle at home in the UK led to this sticking further as it became my responsiblity for the last 10 years to be the one to stay up with mum until she fell asleep amongst other things I dont share here. Yes this caused anger and frustration in me which I do believe led to my subconscious revolting. I also believe there has been such revolts against my family's decisions in the past whilst growing up. I couldn't express my anger as I was taught it was bad to and also as it changed fuck all so I do believe I internalised it and thus became subconsciously a self sabateur where I resorted to consciously wanting to change and change badly but subconsciously could not. Yes I do want the goal badly enough and I know I do and that false argument as I see it doesnt fit as I know my circumstances at home arent normal and thus get carried further when im abroad and dealing with the shit there as a mature student and then flying back and forth with my ill health too has made matters worse. The past with the subs due to all this was hard due to the hours to listen and the frustration of not getting anywhere but now the 1 loop and the 2 days on and off means even if it takes me until the 180th day to see something so be it its worth it however so far you and others seem to see that im showing signs so im more than happy lol

My only request for when im back at uni and the time is right to ask you to look at how YOU want me to change the protocol for me (if indeed you think I should) is to ask that you read my journal. Dont focus on it too much now as you say but when ready do read it as im sharing everything there for you to get data and maybe by that time you will notice whatever it is you notice to see me execute and how to move ahead. 

I like you do believe this version with FRM 5.0 is likely to break through and maybe it already is so 

Regarding caffeine (which I only mention due the subs otherwise its not a concern for me), well ive made long changes in the past such as only drink water or herbal teas but then due to stresses (some of which ive mentioned above but not all) lead me back to my comfort foods such as sugar/carbs and caffeine. Wanting to change isnt my issue, changing and sticking to it long enough to become a habit without something derailing me is the issue. I have always felt or rather felt for a long time that every time I struggle to change and try to change I am derailed and this has been noticed by my family. There are times yes when I give up and think fuck it but I never fully ever give up thats just not in me and I work to change and try to change and even now as a mature student ive resorted to go back to do the course I felt I wanted to because i just dont give up. So wanting to change isnt my issue though I see what you mean too. I have never felt able to do what I want to at home so when im back at my uni apartment im hoping to make changes slowly in the 6 months to build momentum.

[Jake2015]

@Jake2015 It might be wishful thinking but I have seen hints that you are executing this time. I have also seen that you’re still trying to find ways to sabotage yourself again, but much less than you did before. You are breaking through, just don’t overthink it and let it happen. And please give me permission to kick your ass next time you come up with a way to sabotage your progress .

thanks bro I think you, @Shannon, @Qiel, @4Kingdoms, @Kol and @CatMan (apologies if i've missed someone or anyone so say who so I can acknowledge you too) have all said so so that cannot be wishful thinking nor a fluke now so

Im not sure how you or anyone sees me trying to sabotage as im just hitting play and listening this time as its just so easy and fuck all that I need speakers and this and that now its just mobile phone and play but yeah if anyone see me doing that please point it out so I can become aware ofcourse.

yeah overthinking is natural as im eager to break through bro and just eager to see hints or signs I am doing but now im more chilled. I just wake up get on with my day and if I notice anything im sharing it later in the day. To be honest the biggest stress or issue I have is making sure I get on to my journal to reply hahaha the rest is just me enjoying life as normal for now. 

hahahah you absolutely have permission to kick my ass bro! thank you  

[Jake2015]

What do you guys think? Should we start a thread showing all the crazy-ass emails we get?

I think you should add that to the "Review" section on Subliminal-shop. It's win-win. Give the new customer who look up the salespage some insight what the subs could possibly do through factual reviews from the user.

It's a bit funny seeing the testimonial and description in one salespage yet the review section have zero testimonial.

Me as a new customer at first think that's a bit weird.

Luckily I found the forum.

Just my two cent.

I think you misunderstand.  I'm talking about the emails like the one we got from someone who was utterly convinced that their dog talk to them, and send us video proof, which consisted of their dog just looking at them.  For example.

Or the ones where people are being unreasonable and abusive to us for refunding them after they demanded a refund.

That sort of thing.

Crazy shit.

I've long been contemplating sharing these things with the forum as a way of giving you guys a bit of insight into what we deal with on a regular basis from people who are different.

wow I never knew about this so yeah definitely agree with sharing this too as not only does it over insight and perhaps humour but also adds more trust in ILM and faith etc for those that may need it. My 2 cents anyway.

[Ampersnd]

I'm assuming that after the 14 day mark, it'd be fine to run OFv.3 3 days on, 2 days off to experiment?

[Shannon]

I'm assuming that after the 14 day mark, it'd be fine to run OFv.3 3 days on, 2 days off to experiment?

In the interest of as much scientific observation as possible i prefer one variable to change one notch per ASRB2 cycle. The exception would be if ypu have your subconscious urging a specific change as a result of executing AutoConfig.

[samba99]

Shannon,

How is it going with UMS v2 stage 1? What are you currently working on?

I have purchased v2 the entire set. Shortly after that, UMS v1 helped me to make double the amount I paid for v2. Pretty awesome stuff

Hey, great news!  

Right now I am working not on Stage 1, but on Stage 4.  Stage 4 is the script from which stages 1, 2 and 3 will be extracted.  I'm working out how to configure the set, so I don't have to spend 4x as long doing configuration work.  Not very exciting to talk about, but my job is rarely exciting to talk about...

I wonder if that double the amount you paid for v2 wasn't TID from v2?  Have you ever had v1 do things like that for you before?

Shannon I know I replied to this post but I think I have a better view at it now.

 It seems as it was indeed a result of UMSv2 TID. Here how it feels, imagine a gate of abundance (or a channel) this gate is located somewhere above me ( I say above because when the gate opens, the very first feeling I feel is in my head area, then it washes my body as it flows downward to my heart, abdominal and other areas)

When the gate opens there is a magnitude of motivations, insight and vision almost always in this order motivation or inspiration > insight > clear vision > execution.... And the result of this gate opening is effortless monetary profit.

However as that result is achieved (certain amount of profit) the gate closes and everything disappear (including some part of the profit) 

To put in simple words here is how the actions are manifested when gate is closed Vs Open
Gate is Open: Order and clearance of thought hence leading to profit
Gate is Closed: Chaos and confusion with loss in profit.

Now I am reporting this because someone else few days ago raised a concern whether UMSv1 help address the issue of keeping us at a baseline level which seems the case right now (with slow progression upward)

And I am wondering if this is just a limitation of TID UMSv2 or there is an actual flaw in the script that is keeping us progressing at a slow rate by alternating our behavior between chaos and order. Its almost like the profits from the gate opening blinds me into chaos ( at least for a short duration until the gates is open again)


I really don't know what you may get from this feedback but I thought I would report since this been happening for a while and it could just be a limitation of TID for the time being.