02-04-2016, 08:29 AM
(02-04-2016, 08:13 AM)Xyer Wrote:(02-04-2016, 07:47 AM)Shannon Wrote: In my experience, whenever you start experiencing depression while running a sub, it's because the subconscious self knows the sub is going to win if it doesn't try to stop you. Depression is it's way of saying to the conscious mind that it feels hopeless to void the fear it has, and it wants the conscious you to stop. In some cases, I have found that there is fear of being freed of fear, fear of being freed of guilt and fear of being freed of shame. The issue is that people are frequently taught that the guilt, shame and fear are keeping them safe from something, and that something is usually preposterous, but because this is input into their minds when they are very young, they have not yet developed critical thinking capacity when it happens, and they believe and accept it hook line and sinker as being true. Then they spend the rest of their lives being limited by the beliefs of their inner 4 or 5 or 6 year old, who didn't understand enough to realize that they were eventually going to be capable of handling all this without guilt, shame and fear.
Rock on.
Rock on Shannon. That's great explanation, you're like professor. But what about sargemaximus experience while using SM v.3 he's not just depression, he almost suicide. "whenever you start experiencing depression while running a sub, it's because the subconscious self knows the sub is going to win if it doesn't try to stop you", does in sargemaximus case, the subconscious thought that suicide is the most right answer in the situation or not? Thank you for your kind answer.
void should have been "avoid".
In Sargemaximus' case, he's dealing with an extreme fear. The more extreme the fear, the more extreme the response. I have seen people respond with depression that became a threat of suicide from their subconscious, and of course I'm never going to advise people to do something that risks their life. Unfortunately, that just leads to staying where you are because the subconscious wins. So we have to find a different way to approach the issue, or the person has to outgrow being influenced so strongly by their subconscious fears that they would seriously entertain things like suicide. I think the solution in general is to make the process less fearful and more comfortable. The rate of change to time has to adjust to what the person can handle.
There are a variety of ways the subconscious can react to get you to stop something that it fears. Threats of suicide is just one. But in the end it's up to the person how they respond to those threats and reactions. Self destruction to avoid dealing with a fear is pretty unreasonable, but then, emotions are unreasonable.
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The scientist has a question to find an answer for. The pseudo-scientist has an answer to find a question for. ~ "Failure is the path of least persistence." - Chinese Fortune Cookie ~ Logic left. Emotion right. But thinking, straight ahead. ~ Sperate supra omnia in valorem. (The value of trust is above all else.) ~ Meowsomeness!