07-12-2017, 09:30 AM
(07-12-2017, 07:46 AM)robstar Wrote:(07-12-2017, 07:23 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:(07-12-2017, 07:08 AM)robstar Wrote:(07-11-2017, 05:30 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:(07-11-2017, 04:59 AM)RTBoss Wrote: I think you mean, if you were executing the script. You need so much clearing and healing, Sarge, I'm not surprised it's not quite "working" yet for you.
Who makes out for 1.5 hours? If she's rejecting your advances, cut that shit off after the 2nd time, and make an excuse to end the date. Good job giving her all the power, dude.
Giving her all the power? How is that giving her all the power?
EDIT: my brother (who's good with women) once made out with a girl for 6 hours. >>
EDIT 2: happened just before he lost his virginity ad a matter of fact.
You gave her the power because you kept trying to have sex with her even though she rejected you many times.
Lol, what? I thought that was being persistand, not giving a f*ck, going after what I wanted, not being phazed by the woman, etc.
(07-12-2017, 07:08 AM)robstar Wrote: The powerful thing to do would be to have walked away because you had better things to do/other women who would actually have sex with you. OR to have decided that since you were enjoying the experience of making out you would chill out enjoy it and stop trying to escalate, let the burden be on her since she rejected you. What you did, was show that you are both desperate for sex, AND that she was your only option, both very unattractive places to be in.
Hmm. I guess that makes sense, but it's hard to be congruent with having other options when you don't.
(07-12-2017, 07:08 AM)robstar Wrote: It sounds to me despite saying that theory does not help that you are in need for some theory if you don't see why what you did was unattractive.
And we've been through this before, you've mentioned your brother was agreed to a committed relationship for a whole month before having sex with a girl, thats not a guy who's good with women thats a guy who takes what he can get. By the sounds of how you've described your brother, it sounds like he's good with PEOPLE/social skills and occasionally lucks in with women, and it seems he fits into this category: http://www.blackdragonblog.com/2016/01/2...be-alphas/
Fair enough. Well then we can say DMSI isn't working for me and I need to learn more pick up. >>
It's so confusing tho because like I said in the beginning of this response: I was following PUA concepts: be unfazed, go for what you want, be persistent. lol.
But then the advice does a complete 180.
Want to know my latest theory? here it is: if I would have banged her all that I did would be excused and I'd been hailed as a boss.
I really don't trust most of the advice I'm getting nowadays because of that.
The thing is, the concepts don't contradict each other if you use them in moderation and don't apply them to the extreme which I think you have a tendency to do. These are not to be viewed in black and white, all or nothing.
Dmsi is working and will work for you, I believe that, I'm not sure you'd have gotten that date in the first place without it. Who knows, but I'd certainly keep running it. I just think a bit of theory is always helpful, but you gotta take what works for you and discard the rest. I found for me concepts like 'persistence' were less valuable than concepts like "do what you would do if you had tons of options". Anyway if you're gonna reply to me do it in your journal I don't want to clog Catman's journal with our convo.
So if I get this right, in this case it would be good to be persistent as long you see the door still open and back off when notice that the door closes. The hardest thing is probably to see if the door is still open or already closed if you don't have that much experience.
In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.