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Raykon's Self Esteem 5.5g Journal
12-23-2017, 12:34 PM (This post was last modified: 12-24-2017 07:30 PM by Raykon.)
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Raykon's Self Esteem 5.5g Journal
Been on this program for 2 nights now.

Feel good so far, feels like I have more confidence in myself and and more hopeful that my future will be good.


I went to gift the gift to the Vegan chicks dad today, I was nervous the days leading up to it but I ended up doing it and I was very confident and respectful and I imagine I had a good first impression with him.

I had a little bit of anxiety before meeting him but I tucked it aside easily. (I think my anxiety dissapears much faster since using Anxiety aid)
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12-25-2017, 08:40 AM
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does anyone know if Anxiety Relief can be used for 1 loop before meetings/and stuff. even if im using another program at same time.


i dont know what ITM stands for. does it mean in the moment? And if so. what does in the moment mean.
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12-25-2017, 10:08 AM
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(12-25-2017 08:40 AM)Raykon Wrote:  does anyone know if Anxiety Relief can be used for 1 loop before meetings/and stuff. even if im using another program at same time.


i dont know what ITM stands for. does it mean in the moment? And if so. what does in the moment mean.

In the moment, yes. I believe it's supposed to mean the way you would want to use ARA - relief from anxiety in the present moment.

But - I have no idea what effects using ARA for in the moment relief whilst using SE for long-term programming would have. My bet would be on Shannon advising against it, as it would probably derail SE.

Then again, you paid for the thing, so... Big Grin

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12-25-2017, 12:59 PM
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It is in the moment.. but that would only be if youre using ARA by itself. Doing it with another program like that would derail it.
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12-26-2017, 07:11 AM
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Looking forward to your results Raykon...
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12-26-2017, 03:53 PM (This post was last modified: 12-26-2017 04:37 PM by Raykon.)
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Amann and everyone else, It is with great joy I can tell you guys for sure the program is working, and it's working extremely well and exactly how I hoped it would.

I just got some chicks number (10/10 petite BEAUTY), the thing that I noticed however was that I had even less anxiety and I was even less in my head it felt like. I was more comtorable talking to these women and I also seeked less validation and also it felt like I became even more of a natural now.




I was in a depressed state that day and angry as ****, (the program however was helping calming me down and remain at ease) If I hadn't used the program I believe I woudl have been even MORE depressed and even more angry.


but anyways, I went from depressed/upset/angered and in my pajama's outside by a store met some chick got her snapchat, almost gave her a ride home but she was super shy, she tried running away from me playfully but I playfully jogged and told her to wait and I used my hands to try and slow her/ get her to stay.

I was trying to be careful I didn't want to be too forceful where it starts to turn from playful to serious.

even though a part of me wanted and maybe next time I should have picked her up playfullly.


but anyways, I got her to stay enough to give me her number & she seemed interested in me. because I was so confident and blatantly attracted and direct with her.

I actually met her 2 months ago she was a cashier at a store and I just banged an escort that time right before I met her so I was super confident and felt amazing, I kept staring at her eyes and she in mine and I told her "You know my favorite quality about you is, i mean i dont know your personality but my favorite quality about you is your eyes"

I got her name and I left it at that I hadn't tried to get her number that day 2 months ago.

but today when I saw her I shook her hand asked her name and I said "do you remember me?" "I'm the guy that thought your eyes were pretty" (i was looking at her in the eyes and still holding her hand while I said this. I also leaned in towards her as I said it for some reason.


I asked her wheres shes going and she said metrotown so I offered her a ride, she walked with me to my car that was around the corner (which is a badass 06 350z nissan now btw)

I opened the car door and instead of walking into my car like I expected she said I'm going to walk this way and skytrain..

Thats when the whole chasing incident happened (srry I wrote this story in a wierd timeline/order)

anyways, her friend came and i talked to her friend and met her friend too even though shes not attractive but I wanted the other one to see i'm not just being social with only her because shes hot but im social with everyone. I asked her friend if shes shy and she said "yeah shes really shy!!"


so I realized the running away and not getting into my car was not because of lack of attraction but because of lack of comfort probably.

She didn't know me enough to trust me. I could have been anyone in her mind.

I even made a joke "You think i'm going to steal you? Smile"

and when I was chasing her and touching her lightly tryin to slow her down I said "okay im kidnapping you for real now (in a playful joking way)

**** I was super confident today.

Thats how I know self esteem is working really well.

I was NEVER that comftorable. I was SUPER playful and direct and it didnt feel like i had any inner turmoil. not even a little. I think my anxiety is even less now.


anyways, I'll stay on this program long time. I had severely low self esteem many years ago and AM had faded, so i can probably really benefit from this.

Also the way im communicating with my friends is different then its ever BEEN.

im EVEN MORE expressive, honest and genuine. I really noticed this.
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12-26-2017, 04:24 PM (This post was last modified: 12-26-2017 04:26 PM by Amann.)
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Raykon that's exactly what I wanted to hear! ..Sounds like you're doing great with it...even if it has only been a few days... .I guess I'm gonna have to buy SE now!

I created a thread discussing SE and AM6 :http://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Men-s-Product-Discussion-Self-Esteem-AM6-EPRHA-

As you've done AM6 before do you think you could compare it to how you felt when you did AM6? Not necessarily now...but in say a week ..to give the program a bit more time to run.

Now I'm even more intrigued to see how this subs works!

P.S...Metrotown...skytrain....guess who found the knucklehead! Lol
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12-26-2017, 04:38 PM
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(12-26-2017 04:24 PM)Amann Wrote:  Raykon that's exactly what I wanted to hear! ..Sounds like you're doing great with it...even if it has only been a few days... .I guess I'm gonna have to buy SE now!

I created a thread discussing SE and AM6 :http://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Men-s-Product-Discussion-Self-Esteem-AM6-EPRHA-

As you've done AM6 before do you think you could compare it to how you felt when you did AM6? Not necessarily now...but in say a week ..to give the program a bit more time to run.

Now I'm even more intrigued to see how this subs works!

P.S...Metrotown...skytrain....guess who found the knucklehead! Lol

I might be wrong but I'm strongly feeling that this is more powerful then AM , and even DMSI was for me.

I am extremely self aware analytical and intuitive. I am positive this sub is game changer.



but yeah I will get back to you in a week or two and let you know if that feeling is even more powerful.
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12-26-2017, 04:55 PM
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Raykon, your sharing this gives me hope, as I've considered ARA as my next sub choice since (I think) it hits fears head on and negates them. Thus, the anxiety loses its ground.

If the same scripts are used in SE, I'm so very game. Low self esteem/self image has been normal for me, and I'm actually miserable in it. SE provides hope since, like many 5.5 subs, it heals the core while building the new images/ideas of one's self.

Thank you for being so descriptive in your journal!
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12-26-2017, 05:47 PM (This post was last modified: 12-26-2017 06:42 PM by Raykon.)
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(12-26-2017 04:55 PM)findingme Wrote:  Raykon, your sharing this gives me hope, as I've considered ARA as my next sub choice since (I think) it hits fears head on and negates them. Thus, the anxiety loses its ground.

If the same scripts are used in SE, I'm so very game. Low self esteem/self image has been normal for me, and I'm actually miserable in it. SE provides hope since, like many 5.5 subs, it heals the core while building the new images/ideas of one's self.

Thank you for being so descriptive in your journal!

I don't think the script is the same but I might be getting a side effect.

I also did use ARA for 2 weeks and a bit so that might also be why.

I think anxiety relief would be better if ur already close to the point of approaching and being good with chicks.

But if ur not then self esteem is more valuable.
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12-26-2017, 09:15 PM
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Sounds like Self Esteem is pretty cool, i'd assume we can expect more shifts emotionally and with confidence and such with SE as opposed to UD as it's more specifically focused on that.

I unfortunately seemed to have derailed UD but it got me to a point of honestly and expression even E2 and DMSI didn't do and I started saying things that made me angry that I was always told I shouldn't say or that was bad to say but I just had enough of being treated in a certain way and expressed it. It felt powerful, I also noticed it seemed to be directing me towards expressing my masculinity more. Aswell as being more assertive due to being annoyed at certain things, reminds me of AM a bit.

Though a few weeks ago the frustration built up massively and went and since then i've been feeling weaker than I have in a long time, unable to be assertive and such and it's annoying me.
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12-26-2017, 09:17 PM
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(12-26-2017 09:15 PM)Benjamin Wrote:  Sounds like Self Esteem is pretty cool, i'd assume we can expect more shifts emotionally and with confidence and such with SE as opposed to UD as it's more specifically focused on that.

I unfortunately seemed to have derailed UD but it got me to a point of honestly and expression even E2 and DMSI didn't do and I started saying things that made me angry that I was always told I shouldn't say or that was bad to say but I just had enough of being treated in a certain way and expressed it. It felt powerful, I also noticed it seemed to be directing me towards expressing my masculinity more. Aswell as being more assertive due to being annoyed at certain things, reminds me of AM a bit.

Though a few weeks ago the frustration built up massively and went and since then i've been feeling weaker than I have in a long time, unable to be assertive and such and it's annoying me.

Whats UD stand for?
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12-26-2017, 09:18 PM
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Universal Detox.
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12-26-2017, 09:27 PM
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(12-26-2017 09:18 PM)Benjamin Wrote:  Universal Detox.

Oh yeah that's right. I have that program but never used it for long time at all.

I really want too one day in the future I imagine a long time of using it would be really beneficial but it's so hard with all these other great subs.
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12-27-2017, 03:11 AM
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Snapchat... So the guy sends her a D pic and she responds with a pic of her house with the streetsigns visible and that's how to setup a date (i.e. I'm too old to even know what to do with a snapchat contact)

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12-27-2017, 03:55 AM
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(12-27-2017 03:11 AM)LionKing Wrote:  Snapchat... So the guy sends her a D pic and she responds with a pic of her house with the streetsigns visible and that's how to setup a date (i.e. I'm too old to even know what to do with a snapchat contact)

If you're too old for snap chat then perhaps you could take a D pic with a regular camera, get a few dozen copies of it made at your local photo store and mail them out to all the girls you fancy.

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12-27-2017, 06:54 AM
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(12-27-2017 03:55 AM)Determined Wrote:  
(12-27-2017 03:11 AM)LionKing Wrote:  Snapchat... So the guy sends her a D pic and she responds with a pic of her house with the streetsigns visible and that's how to setup a date (i.e. I'm too old to even know what to do with a snapchat contact)

If you're too old for snap chat then perhaps you could take a D pic with a regular camera, get a few dozen copies of it made at your local photo store and mail them out to all the girls you fancy.

Lol. didn't write it clearly enough, but that was actually an interested question: is a snapchat contact just as useful as WhatsApp or something if you're used to it, or does it just get you a Like from the girl?

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12-27-2017, 09:30 AM
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(12-27-2017 06:54 AM)LionKing Wrote:  
(12-27-2017 03:55 AM)Determined Wrote:  
(12-27-2017 03:11 AM)LionKing Wrote:  Snapchat... So the guy sends her a D pic and she responds with a pic of her house with the streetsigns visible and that's how to setup a date (i.e. I'm too old to even know what to do with a snapchat contact)

If you're too old for snap chat then perhaps you could take a D pic with a regular camera, get a few dozen copies of it made at your local photo store and mail them out to all the girls you fancy.

Lol. didn't write it clearly enough, but that was actually an interested question: is a snapchat contact just as useful as WhatsApp or something if you're used to it, or does it just get you a Like from the girl?

I don't know about older ages, but ages 28 and lower use snapchat now instead of texting preferred. Because snapchats deletes messages automatically shorly after its recieved. also because u can send pictures and messages at same time and also save pictures and send videos too.

Its great for flirting and getting ot know chicks.

As my friend says "it's the new texting, shes more likely to respond to your snapchat then she is text, its just as good for building connection or attraction but less intense or forward as texting.
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12-27-2017, 09:48 AM
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Snap chat evolved from millennial culture. With the advent of camera phones, taking 10+ photos a day (mostly selfies) were common. Even Spiegel had the innovative idea to create Snap Chat to capitalise on this. Now you can share photos with your friends, add in filters and other silly things and even make your own "snap story" which is just a series of photos or short videos collated together to show all your contacts what your day was like.

As you can imagine, this new platform can be used in many humerous and entertaining ways which gives it a light hearted feel. If you're cheeky, you can have a lot of fun on snap chat.

Presumably since you're an older gent, taking numerous photos isn't apart of your repertoire. As Raykon mentioned it's great for flirting and it's not as serious as texting is.

If you can master the art of the camera phone then snapchat is definitely for you

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12-27-2017, 09:54 AM (This post was last modified: 12-27-2017 09:54 AM by Raykon.)
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Oh I forgot to mention. I talked to the chick from yesterday via snapchat and the date is confirmed for sat at 6. Shes Super into me based on her replys on text.

she did say I came on a bit strong (aggressive/forward) but it obviously worked and turned her on because she was super enthusiastic and willing to date me.

she shit tested me 5 or 6 times via text (snapchat) before confirming date.
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