03-23-2013, 03:01 PM
Excellent progress! It sounds to me like what is holding you back is the fact that you ate in a transition phase between where you are and where you want to be. You've made great progress, but you're not there yet and it sounds as if you get into a group and then start becoming needy.
The hotter the girl the less you care what happens the more she becomes invested in qualifying to a higher value male the more she pursues the more you turn the tables on her. She comes after you, and you really don't have to do much of anything at all.
Now of course I am not an expert with dealing with women in clubs, as I don't go clubbing, and the women in clubs have a very different mindset than the ones I usually encounter. But the general idea is, display high value, make her qualify, and keep her in pursuit by passing her shit tests. When she qualifies herself to you, she is acknowledging that you have higher value than she does, and she wants your attention and approval.
When you display neediness, give her too much attention, care too much what she thinks, wants, says, does... you display lower value and she realizes you are not the man she thought you were and loses interest.
The most natural successful man I ever met is a very close friend of mine, and he can pull women like enough to make you crazy frustrated watching him. He does it so well because he genuinely does not give the slightest shit about the outcome, the woman, or anything else except that he is enjoying himself. He teases them, laughs at them, makes fun of them, and even is cruel to them. He's told me that he's taken a lot of pleasure in crushing a woman over the course of an evening and leaving her hot, wet and crying with sexual frustration and her own insecurities, because she started off the interaction so sure that she was invincible. He plays on their insecurities when he encounters that type, and they always crumble.
I don't necessarily recommend doing that, as it's negative, but the things you can learn from him are:
Much respect for the growth you've made.
The hotter the girl the less you care what happens the more she becomes invested in qualifying to a higher value male the more she pursues the more you turn the tables on her. She comes after you, and you really don't have to do much of anything at all.
Now of course I am not an expert with dealing with women in clubs, as I don't go clubbing, and the women in clubs have a very different mindset than the ones I usually encounter. But the general idea is, display high value, make her qualify, and keep her in pursuit by passing her shit tests. When she qualifies herself to you, she is acknowledging that you have higher value than she does, and she wants your attention and approval.
When you display neediness, give her too much attention, care too much what she thinks, wants, says, does... you display lower value and she realizes you are not the man she thought you were and loses interest.
The most natural successful man I ever met is a very close friend of mine, and he can pull women like enough to make you crazy frustrated watching him. He does it so well because he genuinely does not give the slightest shit about the outcome, the woman, or anything else except that he is enjoying himself. He teases them, laughs at them, makes fun of them, and even is cruel to them. He's told me that he's taken a lot of pleasure in crushing a woman over the course of an evening and leaving her hot, wet and crying with sexual frustration and her own insecurities, because she started off the interaction so sure that she was invincible. He plays on their insecurities when he encounters that type, and they always crumble.
I don't necessarily recommend doing that, as it's negative, but the things you can learn from him are:
- Nobody is better than you are.
- Women, no matter how hot, are still human, and they all have their insecurities just like you do.
- If you care what happens outside of enjoying yourself (with or without her), she'll usually see this as a DLV.
- Treat her like she's your little sister: tease her, make fun of her, but don't give her all your attention, and don't give her attention on her terms.
- As a man who is of higher value than she is, you have to have the mindset that she must earn your interest, attention, and response. If she doesn't... you lose interest and walk away. In other words, stop trying to get her approval, and start playing her game on her. make her win your attention, affection, respect, approval and time. Lose interest and leave if she doesn't.
Much respect for the growth you've made.
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The scientist has a question to find an answer for. The pseudo-scientist has an answer to find a question for. ~ "Failure is the path of least persistence." - Chinese Fortune Cookie ~ Logic left. Emotion right. But thinking, straight ahead. ~ Sperate supra omnia in valorem. (The value of trust is above all else.) ~ Meowsomeness!
The scientist has a question to find an answer for. The pseudo-scientist has an answer to find a question for. ~ "Failure is the path of least persistence." - Chinese Fortune Cookie ~ Logic left. Emotion right. But thinking, straight ahead. ~ Sperate supra omnia in valorem. (The value of trust is above all else.) ~ Meowsomeness!
