LTU 5 Journey

[Hanpan]

This thread is just beautiful. I haven't had the time to be active on the forum, but I purchased LTU when it came out in February. The first two months were rough, the next month was pretty good, and LTU has been amazing since then.

And I really agree with everything in here. Our lives become so much easier when fear is reduced. It seems as if my mental capacity has grown now that there is less fear.

I am pleased to hear that.

After reading your comments above, I remember that I posted a "request/suggestion" back asking for a sub to be produced named something like "How to take action/step up/do the right thing/not be a pussy". I think the correct title for that request would now have to be: "Please produce a sub that moves me even more into an "Action type personality" with an even stronger FRM script".

Is it the aim of AM7 to do something like that when it comes out at some point?

The goal of AM7 is to cause those men who use it to achieve their maximum potential for masculinity, leadership and self mastery.  The qualities you describe fit with that.  I think you would be very pleased with AM7.


For now, I can't wait to see how I will develop on LTU over the next many months.

I agree - I believe that in the post I made in 2018 you estimated that AM7 would be out ultimo 2019/primo 2020. I assume that this timeline is unrealistic what I can understand you've been dealing with (sincerely hope you're doing better, and props for taking care of your family). However, the fascinating part of LTU for me is that it seems to constantly be working on my weakest points.  In the beginning, E3 really had to clean up some stuff, then US/LM worked really strong for a while, then my health and energy went from really good to great, and currently, I'm becoming super grounded. So it seems as if this is pretty much a sub that can go on for a very long time. 

Would you expect that the FRM work on one separate area at a time or is it more like a cumulative effect where it removes more and more fear from all parts of life, meaning if FRM works on all 13 titles included in LTU at once or just the main area that LTU is trying to focus on at that point ?

I apologize if this question should have been asked in another thread, I just really like FRM theme of this thread and many of my experiences are similar to what JakeKennedy has described.

[JakeKennedy]

I apologize if this question should have been asked in another thread, I just really like FRM theme of this thread and many of my experiences are similar to what JakeKennedy has described.

No worries. I’m not a don’t derail my thread type guy. I am super interested in all aspects of the FRM. As long as it’s FRM or LTU5 and constructive bring it on brother.

[JakeKennedy]

 However, the fascinating part of LTU for me is that it seems to constantly be working on my weakest points.  In the beginning, E3 really had to clean up some stuff, then US/LM worked really strong for a while, then my health and energy went from really good to great, and currently, I'm becoming super grounded. So it seems as if this is pretty much a sub that can go on for a very long time. 

Just today I was at a fairly formal event with around 100 people.  I was never a high anxiety person but today I felt almost as comfortable as being at home in my living room by myself at the event.  I didn't speak or anything but at one point I was on stage for a short period of time.  Lets just say I was pleasantly surprised.  I was so comfortable it was amazing.  Just another small instance of LTU5 working its magic.

[Zane]

Yeah, you feel at home..

[TheGreatAttractor]

For now, I can't wait to see how I will develop on LTU over the next many months.

Hi,

Is there an LTU 5.1 (or 6.0) in planning?

[Benjamin]

No, Shannon meant how he develops personally while listening to it. The next LTU will be in 6g.

[EvolvingPhoenix]

No, Shannon meant how he develops personally while listening to it. The next LTU will be in 6g.

That won't be for a while though, correct?

[Hanpan]

I have noted that two of the four major personality archetypes (intellect focused and action focused) seem to have little to no fear.  When a person has a preponderance of either or both of those two, they seem to experience little to no fear naturally.  The issue stems from the fact that we are complex and there are many of those parts to consider.  Usually one or more of them will be based in one of the two other personality archetypes, which seem to be focused almost exclusively into one or both of those personality archetypes in all of the "parts "much more prone to experiencing fear.

He probably has a majority of the parts of his personality, consciously and subconsciously, focused in one or both of those two archetypes.  Since it "just is", he has no concept of anything else, and thus cannot teach how to bridge the gap.

It astonishes me how much fear affects us, almost all of us, and how little we really see or understand the amount and breadth of it's impact.  I can't wait to get through the storm I'm dealing with now and resume working on FRM.

Super interesting about the personality archetypes Shannon. That makes a lot of sense and I’ve never heard that before. My mentor is definitely focused around those two archetypes I would say. Especially action. He is super high energy, productive seemingly every second and moves from one deal or decision to the next so fast it’s almost like he doesn’t have time for fear. He just reacts.  At least that’s what it looks like from my view. 

Out of curiosity what are the other two archetypes?

In the past I’ve felt like I could only learn a small fraction from him of what he had to offer because on a basic level I largely have never been able to relate to him. Because I have fears and he doesn’t. As the FRM works on my fears I feel I am increasingly able to take advantage of his experience and wisdom.

Just out of curiosity when it comes to your mentor and fear. Does it seem as if he has a different relationship with fear and challenges than most people, where he actually gets excited about it because he knows that it will allow him to grow, or does it seem as if he doesn't even recognize or experience feelings/emotions such as fear?

[Shannon]

For now, I can't wait to see how I will develop on LTU over the next many months.

Hi,

Is there an LTU 5.1 (or 6.0) in planning?

The next release of LTU will be in 6G as Ben said.  That will happen when it happens.  right now it's like trying to climb a mountain while dealing with an avalanche getting there because of all of the external crap dragging me off course and slowing me down.  So while we are making progress, it's painfully slow right now.  I have made a significant accomplishment recently, one that has me very excited and which I wish I could share with you, but unfortunately it must remain a secret for the time being.  6G is definitely on the way.  Just have to deal with the fallout from the bad, and sometimes very stupid, choices my uncle made before he died and get through developing CHA5 to the best of my ability before we can resume standard progress.

But while I already know how to improve LTU5 in significant ways, doing so is not the best use of my very limited time.  There are a lot of programs I still have not yet been able to extract from LTU5, I have to finish CHA5, and we still have to develop the next version of DMSI too.  Plus I believe I now know how to do really amazing things with programs such as sleep induction aid/awakener.  So there's a lot piling up as I deal with my uncle's mess, and as fast as I can deal with it, more is falling from the sky lately.

[LiquidMind]

Shannon I can already tell you that the FRM in LTU is meshing well with current DMSI and once that is upgraded next, you'll have a lot more pieces of the puzzle solved. 

I feel like how a normal human being should right now.

[Shannon]

Shannon I can already tell you that the FRM in LTU is meshing well with current DMSI and once that is upgraded next, you'll have a lot more pieces of the puzzle solved. 

I feel like how a normal human being should right now.

I believe that the completed FRM is going to be a huge piece of the puzzle for making DMSI work and achieve it's goals.  The next version of DMSI will almost certainly have FRM v4.6, given that I have been far too distracted to work on it for at least the last 5 weeks, and it seems unlikely that I will be able to advance it further without more ideas with which to work.  The next version of DMSI is likely to be 3..3.2, and then I think 3.4 will follow.  I think the keys necessary are to get FRM as advanced as possible, implement and correctly tune the ME and then adjust the aura/snipers to affect others in the right ways.

So it looks like 3.3.2 will be a major upgrade which should be 3.4, but I don't think it will achieve all of what I want without some further fine tuning, so we are effectively turning this numbering convention on its head.  My plan is to do the majority of the improvements and corrections necessary to get us to where DMSI needs to be in 3.2.2, and then figure out whatever needs to be adjusted, tweaked and fine tuned with that, which will result in 3.4, which will be the last of the 3.x branch DMSI versions, and will be the last DMSI that is a free upgrade.

I don't know if I will develop DMSI beyond 3.4 yet.

[Hanpan]

For now, I can't wait to see how I will develop on LTU over the next many months.

Hi,

Is there an LTU 5.1 (or 6.0) in planning?

The next release of LTU will be in 6G as Ben said.  That will happen when it happens.  right now it's like trying to climb a mountain while dealing with an avalanche getting there because of all of the external crap dragging me off course and slowing me down.  So while we are making progress, it's painfully slow right now.  I have made a significant accomplishment recently, one that has me very excited and which I wish I could share with you, but unfortunately it must remain a secret for the time being.  6G is definitely on the way.  Just have to deal with the fallout from the bad, and sometimes very stupid, choices my uncle made before he died and get through developing CHA5 to the best of my ability before we can resume standard progress.

But while I already know how to improve LTU5 in significant ways, doing so is not the best use of my very limited time.  There are a lot of programs I still have not yet been able to extract from LTU5, I have to finish CHA5, and we still have to develop the next version of DMSI too.  Plus I believe I now know how to do really amazing things with programs such as sleep induction aid/awakener.  So there's a lot piling up as I deal with my uncle's mess, and as fast as I can deal with it, more is falling from the sky lately.

Thumbs up for working on the sleep induction aid. Will "programs such as the sleep induction aid/awakener" also include the power naps? 

[Shannon]

The power nap isn't a subliminal. It isn't what I'm working on.

[JakeKennedy]

I have noted that two of the four major personality archetypes (intellect focused and action focused) seem to have little to no fear.  When a person has a preponderance of either or both of those two, they seem to experience little to no fear naturally.  The issue stems from the fact that we are complex and there are many of those parts to consider.  Usually one or more of them will be based in one of the two other personality archetypes, which seem to be focused almost exclusively into one or both of those personality archetypes in all of the "parts "much more prone to experiencing fear.

He probably has a majority of the parts of his personality, consciously and subconsciously, focused in one or both of those two archetypes.  Since it "just is", he has no concept of anything else, and thus cannot teach how to bridge the gap.

It astonishes me how much fear affects us, almost all of us, and how little we really see or understand the amount and breadth of it's impact.  I can't wait to get through the storm I'm dealing with now and resume working on FRM.

Super interesting about the personality archetypes Shannon. That makes a lot of sense and I’ve never heard that before. My mentor is definitely focused around those two archetypes I would say. Especially action. He is super high energy, productive seemingly every second and moves from one deal or decision to the next so fast it’s almost like he doesn’t have time for fear. He just reacts.  At least that’s what it looks like from my view. 

Out of curiosity what are the other two archetypes?

In the past I’ve felt like I could only learn a small fraction from him of what he had to offer because on a basic level I largely have never been able to relate to him. Because I have fears and he doesn’t. As the FRM works on my fears I feel I am increasingly able to take advantage of his experience and wisdom.

Just out of curiosity when it comes to your mentor and fear. Does it seem as if he has a different relationship with fear and challenges than most people, where he actually gets excited about it because he knows that it will allow him to grow, or does it seem as if he doesn't even recognize or experience feelings/emotions such as fear?

He doesn’t exhibit any sign that he experiences fear. I’ve asked him questions in the past which presuppose a normal level of human fear and he looks at me like I’m an alien and has no idea what I’m talking about. Sometimes I find him awkward to be around because he has no fear he awkward pauses don’t bother him at all.  Actually he doesn’t seem to notice them. He will also ask very difficult questions and always expect exceptional performance in everything from those around him. Things are very black or white to him. If you want something, you figure out how to achieve it then you act. End of story.

Even though he can be way too intense for a lot of people he is generally very well liked. He still has charisma and a good sense of humor. He is very polarizing. People either love or hate him. With most treating him like a celebrity in this area.