01-11-2017, 06:27 AM
(01-10-2017, 02:54 PM)chaosvrgn Wrote:(01-10-2017, 12:39 PM)mat422 Wrote: "The razor" definitely seems like an INTP thing. What's interesting to me though is why you felt a need to repress this part of yourself. Would you say it was more fear based or just a general concern for the well being of others when you release it? I know some INTPs have a tendency to go off the deep end with this stuff and get so lost in the cold calculating logic part they lose a bit of their humanity and then have to regain that emotional balance again. Some of them are so far gone that they've taken to the security of being able to map out and predict the behavior of others as opposed to connecting on a human level. But that's really unhealthy INTP behavior. Anyway from the sound of it it seems like you're well developed at this point to integrate it back into your psyche.
The thing is, you're doing exactly what everyone else does. You're implying that we lack the ability to connect to another person "on a human level." But what does that even mean? If you're a sensor, your way of connecting with another person is vastly different than the way I connect to them as an intuitive. Whose to say which is more "human" than another?
The issue lies with the fact that there are far more sensors than there are intuitives, so much that the sensor manner of interacting with the world is often considered "the default," while we are considered "others." Thus, the fact that there's so many and because the sensors can't understand the way we think, they try to label as flawed, cold human beings. That there's something wrong with us that they need to fix.
This forces us to repress our natural state of being and try to operate as a sensor, which puts us under A LOT of stress because it's completely incompatible with how we think. And THAT'S when you see the really self-destructive and unhealthy INTP behavior come out.
I have had the misfortune of having two ISTJ bosses. I've literally avoided taking jobs that would probably assist with my plans of being a millionaire within 4 years simply because I typed my potential manager as an ISTJ. That's how incompatible we often are. ISTJ's don't live in the world of abstract like an INTP does. Our minds work like this: We see seemingly disparate pieces of data, and our job is to connect the dots and figure the underlying master pattern. Sensors don't work like that. To them, the underlying pattern is irrelevant -- maintaining the resulting structure is much more important. And they do that by upholding societal rules and processes, doing things as they always have been, because if those rules didn't work, we'd all be dead.
See the difference?
It's our inherent nature to question the status quo and push those boundaries. The razor is our process in which we do it. It is the will of the sensor to maintain the status quo. To us, it seems like society itself is constantly against us.
I wasn't trying to imply any of that, probably just how it came out when I wrote it. I brought up the extreme of the INTPs because I know in some of them they avoid developing their weaker attributes by rationalizing the crap out of everything. By connecting more on a human level I meant letting the guard down, trusting the person, not seeing the person you're interacting with as a massive computer that responds to commands, stuff like that. And I barely even know you, so I'm not going to come in here and assume how your mind works or at what level of development you're at. I just brought up that example of the extreme to highlight the difference between an INTP that's learned to work on their weaknesses and one that hasn't. Obviously you're an example of an INTP that is working on your weaknesses because you're going through emotional healing. With that comes a stronger ability to connect with others on a deeper level that you desire to do so with.
Hell I'm the polar opposite of you. I need to learn to disengage from people more. When I encounter some asshole and how badly they treat me my immediate thoughts aren't how I'm going to tear them apart, it's what made them this way and why aren't they cognizant of it? It's draining being that connected to almost every stranger you interact with on a daily basis.
Btw, I'm also an intuitive so I know where you're coming from having to deal with sensors. But after talking about unhealthy INTPs it's only fair that you are given a chance to talk about my type which is INFP. If you want to, I'm here to grow to. Lord knows I've got my fair share of weaknesses that need to be worked on in the critical thinking department.