TlR:

(08-25-2025, 02:16 AM)ichigo Wrote: Background



33 year old male. Single. Some previous sexual experiences including LTR but nothing for the last few years.



Listening Patterns



Hard Case Mode: 4 loops (140 mins (2 hours 20 mins) total), 3 days on, 2 days off, vol 8/16 iPhone



Days Listened



12.08.2025 - 21.08.2025 (Came from listening to X4A 6G with a 2-day break in between)



Results



-Started experiencing what I think was TID from FRM about 1 week before I started the programme. I became very conscious of my lower back and how inflexible it is. When in bed I would do deep breathing to try and fill it up and activate it. This would cause uncomfortable sensations. Previously I interpreted this as pain, as if I was doing something wrong and going to injure myself by trying to activate it too much. Now I found myself trying to speak to it, tell it it was part of me and that we wanted to reintegrate it back into my overall system. I have some basic knowledge of "parts work" from psychotherapy but I've never associated it with my lower back before. This focus on my lower back continued throughout my listen.



-Standard DMSI results that I got from previous versions are also present:

-Better looking facial expressions, finding myself having thoughts about how sexy I am

-Improved mood, happier day to day, less stressed, more fun and sociable 

-Increased stares from women, particularly if they don't think I'm looking and I suddenly turn to look, they'll often get "caught" and quickly look away

-Voice deeper 

-More relaxed 

-Body would heat up sometimes, veins popping, particularly after a large meal



-Attended a wedding where I didn't know anyone. I found it much easier to socialise than usual, and found myself being automatically flirty with some women. They were covert in their interest. Also had some more overt interest from a couple of gay men, including one who invited me back to his room for drinks which I politely declined. I'm not gay but the interest from men shows baseline attractiveness increased.



So with all these results, why did I stop listening on 21.08.2025 after just over 1 week on the sub?



I suffer from some issues with weak erections sometimes. I'm not 100% on the cause, but it's interesting how the differences between X4A and DMSI seem to impact it:



-X4A gives me stronger erections

-DMSI gives me weaker erections (this was the case on previous versions also)



Because I started to feel the lack of erection ability from DMSI, I panicked and swapped back to X4A. As what's the point in being sexually attractive, seducing a woman, and then when it comes time for sex you're unable to perform?



I have some theories. X4A is a sexual arousal aura so makes sense it would help me with sexual arousal myself. DMSI is a sexually attractive aura. This may be actually taking the energy I would use for erections and instead using it up on making me "sexy" instead, at the expense of sexual arousal energy? 



I was hoping the change to use for "genetic males only" might change this for me but it doesn't seem to have been the case so far.



However, after reading some of the latest posts from Shannon, I've decided to go back to DMSI. I want to see what the FRM can do for me if I give it enough time, as it was clearly doing something. I'll just live with the erection issues while it's doing it's work, and who knows, perhaps it's somehow fear related and this would help me to clear up that issue in the long-term.



TlR:



DMSI works for me. It's worked for me since v1, in that it makes me more sexually attractive and approachable to women. But I think I am quite a unique case when it comes this issue of erection strength. 



I'll keep going and report back with any updates! 



Sniper feedback / questions for Shannon:



-I get confused about how the sexually attractive aura works, and what kind of results we're supposed to expect, particularly in regards to the sniper. With v1 of DMSI (Aura of Sexual Irresistibility 5.5G), there was no sniper, but I'd see blatant results from people in my vicinity e.g. sex flushes, complaints of heat, blatant IOIs from them. I'd also feel and see the aura on myself: sunburn face, breathing hot, heat in forearms with veins popping. 



Then ever since the sniper was introduced in later versions, I still feel the aura myself sometimes, but I don't see those blatant effects on others. I just get increased stares and milder IOIs. It's like I'm only ever activating the baseline aura and not the snipers. Could you help clarify what we should be feeling and and the effects we should be seeing on others when the sniper kicks in for DMSI?



To contrast, when I run X4A, I feel very clearly when the sniper starts hitting someone. I feel strong vibrations/tingling in my genitals/root, burning sensation in my upper thighs and heat in the face. I also clearly see the effects on the person being sniped in terms of sex flushing, wagging lags, etc. So X4A sniper is obvious when it's kicking in to me... but DMSI's I'm not sure what to look for or what to expect. If it's not arousing them (or is it supposed to be?) then what is it doing when it snipes versus when they're just reacting to your baseline sexy aura? What does it mean to snipe someone with your "sexual attractiveness" if the goal isn't to sexually arouse them? Why would we not want to attract and arouse at the same time if that's possible?



Like I noticed you saw people sex flushing around you with a few seconds listen of this version. I saw that on v1 DMSI (AOSI), I see it on X4A, but for some reason I don't see it with the later versions of DMSI. 



Wishlist product (probably won't happen, but can't hurt to ask!)



-Sexual arousal sniper aura, snipes everyone according to how attractive you find them, but not telling them what to do with their arousal to preserve free will / relationships / etc (same as X4A)

-No auto seduction / auto pilot (so can work for couples too)

-Passive sexually attractive / arousal aura that focuses on attractiveness but with the caveat you have enough sexual arousal energy built up first that you're able to perform sexually

-Other attractiveness amplifiers (body language, voice, celeb effect)

-Enhance self-esteem, self-respect etc. (Goal #2 of DMSI)

-FRM focused on being as sexually attractive / arousing as possible



Hope this is helpful in some way, and thanks for the free release for early DMSI'ers, Shannon.

Quote:Sniper feedback / questions for Shannon:

-I get confused about how the sexually attractive aura works, and what kind of results we're supposed to expect, particularly in regards to the sniper. With v1 of DMSI (Aura of Sexual Irresistibility 5.5G), there was no sniper, but I'd see blatant results from people in my vicinity e.g. sex flushes, complaints of heat, blatant IOIs from them. I'd also feel and see the aura on myself: sunburn face, breathing hot, heat in forearms with veins popping. 

Then ever since the sniper was introduced in later versions, I still feel the aura myself sometimes, but I don't see those blatant effects on others. I just get increased stares and milder IOIs. It's like I'm only ever activating the baseline aura and not the snipers. Could you help clarify what we should be feeling and and the effects we should be seeing on others when the sniper kicks in for DMSI?

To contrast, when I run X4A, I feel very clearly when the sniper starts hitting someone. I feel strong vibrations/tingling in my genitals/root, burning sensation in my upper thighs and heat in the face. I also clearly see the effects on the person being sniped in terms of sex flushing, wagging lags, etc. So X4A sniper is obvious when it's kicking in to me... but DMSI's I'm not sure what to look for or what to expect. If it's not arousing them (or is it supposed to be?) then what is it doing when it snipes versus when they're just reacting to your baseline sexy aura? What does it mean to snipe someone with your "sexual attractiveness" if the goal isn't to sexually arouse them? Why would we not want to attract and arouse at the same time if that's possible?

Like I noticed you saw people sex flushing around you with a few seconds listen of this version. I saw that on v1 DMSI (AOSI), I see it on X4A, but for some reason I don't see it with the later versions of DMSI. 

(08-25-2025, 11:50 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(08-25-2025, 02:16 AM)ichigo Wrote: Background



33 year old male. Single. Some previous sexual experiences including LTR but nothing for the last few years.



Listening Patterns



Hard Case Mode: 4 loops (140 mins (2 hours 20 mins) total), 3 days on, 2 days off, vol 8/16 iPhone



Days Listened



12.08.2025 - 21.08.2025 (Came from listening to X4A 6G with a 2-day break in between)



Results



-Started experiencing what I think was TID from FRM about 1 week before I started the programme. I became very conscious of my lower back and how inflexible it is. When in bed I would do deep breathing to try and fill it up and activate it. This would cause uncomfortable sensations. Previously I interpreted this as pain, as if I was doing something wrong and going to injure myself by trying to activate it too much. Now I found myself trying to speak to it, tell it it was part of me and that we wanted to reintegrate it back into my overall system. I have some basic knowledge of "parts work" from psychotherapy but I've never associated it with my lower back before. This focus on my lower back continued throughout my listen.



-Standard DMSI results that I got from previous versions are also present:

-Better looking facial expressions, finding myself having thoughts about how sexy I am

-Improved mood, happier day to day, less stressed, more fun and sociable 

-Increased stares from women, particularly if they don't think I'm looking and I suddenly turn to look, they'll often get "caught" and quickly look away

-Voice deeper 

-More relaxed 

-Body would heat up sometimes, veins popping, particularly after a large meal



-Attended a wedding where I didn't know anyone. I found it much easier to socialise than usual, and found myself being automatically flirty with some women. They were covert in their interest. Also had some more overt interest from a couple of gay men, including one who invited me back to his room for drinks which I politely declined. I'm not gay but the interest from men shows baseline attractiveness increased.



So with all these results, why did I stop listening on 21.08.2025 after just over 1 week on the sub?



I suffer from some issues with weak erections sometimes. I'm not 100% on the cause, but it's interesting how the differences between X4A and DMSI seem to impact it:



-X4A gives me stronger erections

-DMSI gives me weaker erections (this was the case on previous versions also)



Because I started to feel the lack of erection ability from DMSI, I panicked and swapped back to X4A. As what's the point in being sexually attractive, seducing a woman, and then when it comes time for sex you're unable to perform?



I have some theories. X4A is a sexual arousal aura so makes sense it would help me with sexual arousal myself. DMSI is a sexually attractive aura. This may be actually taking the energy I would use for erections and instead using it up on making me "sexy" instead, at the expense of sexual arousal energy? 



I was hoping the change to use for "genetic males only" might change this for me but it doesn't seem to have been the case so far.



However, after reading some of the latest posts from Shannon, I've decided to go back to DMSI. I want to see what the FRM can do for me if I give it enough time, as it was clearly doing something. I'll just live with the erection issues while it's doing it's work, and who knows, perhaps it's somehow fear related and this would help me to clear up that issue in the long-term.



TlR:



DMSI works for me. It's worked for me since v1, in that it makes me more sexually attractive and approachable to women. But I think I am quite a unique case when it comes this issue of erection strength. 



I'll keep going and report back with any updates! 



Sniper feedback / questions for Shannon:



-I get confused about how the sexually attractive aura works, and what kind of results we're supposed to expect, particularly in regards to the sniper. With v1 of DMSI (Aura of Sexual Irresistibility 5.5G), there was no sniper, but I'd see blatant results from people in my vicinity e.g. sex flushes, complaints of heat, blatant IOIs from them. I'd also feel and see the aura on myself: sunburn face, breathing hot, heat in forearms with veins popping. 



Then ever since the sniper was introduced in later versions, I still feel the aura myself sometimes, but I don't see those blatant effects on others. I just get increased stares and milder IOIs. It's like I'm only ever activating the baseline aura and not the snipers. Could you help clarify what we should be feeling and and the effects we should be seeing on others when the sniper kicks in for DMSI?



To contrast, when I run X4A, I feel very clearly when the sniper starts hitting someone. I feel strong vibrations/tingling in my genitals/root, burning sensation in my upper thighs and heat in the face. I also clearly see the effects on the person being sniped in terms of sex flushing, wagging lags, etc. So X4A sniper is obvious when it's kicking in to me... but DMSI's I'm not sure what to look for or what to expect. If it's not arousing them (or is it supposed to be?) then what is it doing when it snipes versus when they're just reacting to your baseline sexy aura? What does it mean to snipe someone with your "sexual attractiveness" if the goal isn't to sexually arouse them? Why would we not want to attract and arouse at the same time if that's possible?



Like I noticed you saw people sex flushing around you with a few seconds listen of this version. I saw that on v1 DMSI (AOSI), I see it on X4A, but for some reason I don't see it with the later versions of DMSI. 



Wishlist product (probably won't happen, but can't hurt to ask!)



-Sexual arousal sniper aura, snipes everyone according to how attractive you find them, but not telling them what to do with their arousal to preserve free will / relationships / etc (same as X4A)

-No auto seduction / auto pilot (so can work for couples too)

-Passive sexually attractive / arousal aura that focuses on attractiveness but with the caveat you have enough sexual arousal energy built up first that you're able to perform sexually

-Other attractiveness amplifiers (body language, voice, celeb effect)

-Enhance self-esteem, self-respect etc. (Goal #2 of DMSI)

-FRM focused on being as sexually attractive / arousing as possible



Hope this is helpful in some way, and thanks for the free release for early DMSI'ers, Shannon.

With regards to your erectile responses to X4A and DMSI, the reasons for that will include the following:

1. X4A is working directly to arouse, and it will therefore be flooding you with arousing energy.  DMSI is working to attract, and it will flood you with attractive energy.  
2. Arousing energy will arouse you regardless of your sex, but attractive energy will not be attractive to yourself: a straight man expressing arousing energy intended to attract and interest straight women will not be attracted by that energy, because that is what he already is and has, not what he is trying to achieve.
3. Erectile issues can stem from a lot of different causes, but most men these days who experience ED are experiencing it because of either advanced age (low hormone levels) or because of what I call psychological entanglement.  In other words, they get into a feedback loop of responses to what they read, see and experience that causes them to experience ED as a result and it's usually self reinforcing.  It basically boils down to deep subconscious fears.  If this is part of what stands in the way of you achieving the full potential of DMSI - and it would seem that while some parts of you definitely execute, others would be afraid of being humiliated, embarassed, etc. should a sexual opportunity actually arise - then FRM will kickj in and focus on working you through whatever is in the way.  That would definitely not be what I would expect to cause easy erections.
4. X4A is designed as a reaction tto DMSI.  It is designed to be as light, simple and easy to execute as possible in v1xxx, and this means it is trying to achieve it's goals in part by not triggering fears or resistance in guys who have those to deal with in response to DMSI.  It will therefore be easier to flow with sexually, because it's not trying to dig out the issues and work you through them, or achieve some grand plan that might be more likely to scare some guys.

Giving up on DMSI isn't how you do it.  You have no idea what DMSI 5 in 6G is going to be able to accomplish until you run it properly.

Quote:Sniper feedback / questions for Shannon:

-I get confused about how the sexually attractive aura works, and what kind of results we're supposed to expect, particularly in regards to the sniper. With v1 of DMSI (Aura of Sexual Irresistibility 5.5G), there was no sniper, but I'd see blatant results from people in my vicinity e.g. sex flushes, complaints of heat, blatant IOIs from them. I'd also feel and see the aura on myself: sunburn face, breathing hot, heat in forearms with veins popping. 

Then ever since the sniper was introduced in later versions, I still feel the aura myself sometimes, but I don't see those blatant effects on others. I just get increased stares and milder IOIs. It's like I'm only ever activating the baseline aura and not the snipers. Could you help clarify what we should be feeling and and the effects we should be seeing on others when the sniper kicks in for DMSI?

To contrast, when I run X4A, I feel very clearly when the sniper starts hitting someone. I feel strong vibrations/tingling in my genitals/root, burning sensation in my upper thighs and heat in the face. I also clearly see the effects on the person being sniped in terms of sex flushing, wagging lags, etc. So X4A sniper is obvious when it's kicking in to me... but DMSI's I'm not sure what to look for or what to expect. If it's not arousing them (or is it supposed to be?) then what is it doing when it snipes versus when they're just reacting to your baseline sexy aura? What does it mean to snipe someone with your "sexual attractiveness" if the goal isn't to sexually arouse them? Why would we not want to attract and arouse at the same time if that's possible?

Like I noticed you saw people sex flushing around you with a few seconds listen of this version. I saw that on v1 DMSI (AOSI), I see it on X4A, but for some reason I don't see it with the later versions of DMSI. 

Version 1 was a very un-calibrated attempt at what became DMSI later.  It did not have snipers, but it also did not have any limits on energy usage or any efforts at efficient energy usage or sourcing.  If you will recall, it was exhausting to run and made people eat double what they would normally eat to keep up, and then it was exhausting to run anyway.  Version 1 was burning people out to achieve those results.  It wasn't good, or sustainable.

The sniper isn't going to reduce results.  It's going to create a set of two different possible results (or three, since v5 has the short and medium range sniper).  You'll have Baseline, which is just being affected by the aura.  You'll have the influence of the Short Range Sniper (SRS), and you will have the influence of the Medium Range Sniper (MRS).

The snipers affect those being sniped by focusing the energy of your aura on them and increasing the intensity of the energy to elicit more awareness of the effect, get their attention and make you more obvious to them, as well as increase their attraction according to how they rank on your physical attractiveness scale.

One thing you should know is that women are masters of disguise.  They can be ragingly aroused or extremely attracted, but you might have no idea if she's trying to hide it.  That happens when she's attracted or aroused enough to know it, but not attracted or aroused enough to overcome whatever reasons she has to try to fight that response.  The more attractive she is, the harder she'll be sniped, but also, the more she will tend to try to curb her responses, at least in public. DMSI attempts to get her to do what she needs to do to get you in a position where she has sufficient privacy to act on her attraction as she desires, but you don't necessarily know what her reasons for fighting the influence are.  Maybe she's married, engaged, in a LTR, has a baby, has had bad experiences letting her vajayjay make decisions for her, or maybe she's just not feeling good physically or emotionally that day.  Lots of things to consider.

Attraction as the goal is intended to generate arousal as a secondary function, in response to the attraction.  It's intended to give you a 1-2 punch, instead of "just a right hook" (arousal only).  

Oh, and another thing to consider is that women can smell in-congruence a mile away.  If you are signaling attractive qualities, but in some way you're also signaling unattractive qualities (insecurity, uncertainty, fear, etc., her automatic response will be to conclude that you're either not fully developed or you're not really as attractive as you're trying to portray yourself to be.  That can also significantly reduce, or even kill, responses.

Finally... I think you would see it a lot more on DMSI - you, specifically, and guys like you - if there was no FRM.  The FRM is a "damned if I do and damned if I don't" thing, because if I put it in, it immediately throws guys into fear removal, instead of full execution.  If I don't, then it will immediately force the program to start working on fear removal anyway, but without anywhere near as much finesse, and it will tend to get more results for certain guys depending on what they need - but it won't work for a lot of "hard cases" because they need FRM so much.  

My results are what you would get from full execution.  You have to get through the internal blockages to achieve full execution.  DMSI is trying to do a lot more than X4A is, and it's a much more complex script.  X4A is light specifically to minimize the amount of chance for anything to trigger fears that would slow down or impair results.  DMSI is going for the gold, so to speak.

Quote:The aura is getting stronger. As I mentioned before, with X4A I feel the vibrating in my thighs/genital/root. With DMSI I feel it primarily in my forearms and face. Yesterday I was in a coffee shop and could feel all of the above happening at once. And I was getting looks which is normal DMSI, but some looks were crazy. Like just overt, staring in my direction with massive smiles on faces. I've also seen some of the arousal results X4A usually gives me. Women sat near me, some with husbands, I could start to smell their arousal after time and after about 20-30 minutes they want to use the bathroom, and came back looking flushed. Happened twice.

(08-30-2025, 02:01 AM)treble Wrote: Getting a lot of value from this thread. Thanks for sharing. Seems like you may not need to spend much time with the fear removal stuff and are already executing quite well, too.

Quote:The aura is getting stronger. As I mentioned before, with X4A I feel the vibrating in my thighs/genital/root. With DMSI I feel it primarily in my forearms and face. Yesterday I was in a coffee shop and could feel all of the above happening at once. And I was getting looks which is normal DMSI, but some looks were crazy. Like just overt, staring in my direction with massive smiles on faces. I've also seen some of the arousal results X4A usually gives me. Women sat near me, some with husbands, I could start to smell their arousal after time and after about 20-30 minutes they want to use the bathroom, and came back looking flushed. Happened twice.

Bruh.

Forreal? Smell it?? That's wild lol

(08-30-2025, 11:11 AM)Shannon Wrote: A few points.

First, DMSI does not cause erectile difficulty.  It is simply not arousing you.  If you have some degree of erectile difficulty, DMSI will not help with it; it is not designed for that.  But it does not cause erectile difficulty.

Second, the program you describe would already exist if it were possible.  I have ideas I am working on for the future.

Third, do not try to mix or alternate DMSI with X4A.  You may not get turbulence, but that doesn't mean you're doing yourself any favors.  What will result, in the BEST case, is that you start a situation where your "ship" has two captains who both have different goals taking turns running the ship.  That will result in a zig zag, which will get you half way between both goals, but fail to get you to either goal in the end.

Regardless of if X4A is still running in your head, after a few days of DMSI, there would be no resources for it to use.  They would be going entirely to DMSI.  My subliminals are not designed to share resources outside of a shield addition, because sharing resources degrades the results that are possible even when we make resource allocation and use dynamic.  Don't try to alternate.

The ladies inside your aura were expressing their arousal in response to DMSI's influence.  Smelling it was a sure sign that they were ready to go, right then and there, at least physiologically.

(09-01-2025, 04:05 AM)ichigo Wrote: Began last night and getting worse today... some kind of heavy anxiety and sadness kicking in. Tbh just feel like I  want to cry.  I've got that separation anxiety type feeling, similar to when I first broke up with my ex, but not quite that severe. Feeling needy. But it's come out of no where. 

I'm currently by myself but I'd imagine the aura won't be kicking in right now. I've got massive urges to switch back to X4A but obviously FRM is doing something and this is resistance kicking in.

Luckily I can be a bit lazy at work today, I'm hoping this passes by tomorrow. Tough to be productive when you're going through this.

Hopefully there's a rainbow at the end of this. 

On the flip side, I think I noticed some released tension around the lower stomach / psoas area. That's somewhere I'm pretty tight.