DMSI 3.2 - Tiger's Blood -The BEAST is alive & ready to devour it's prey.

[wolverine_i_am]

Same here. My urge to fap, or even edge, has gone. I also plan to daygame more this week. Good luck!

[Shannon]

Spent my first weekend in jail. It was okay.

I did a loop today after I got out and went downtown walked the strip with some friends, approached 1 tall women and she had no interest whatsoever, she seemed scared and not interested in conversing at all. She seemed shy too.

I felt 0 feelings of rejection after I did it, also I am much more over the other chick now, and also I feel less jealousy when I hear of other guys getting laid allot. I used to have a little bit of envy surface but now I don't and feel even MORE SO that my time of glory is just around the corner (its already here but now its just a matter of meeting woman)\

Can't wait to get my ID back.. IN the mean time im going to start approaching day game again next week.

Also going to hit up strip clubs and potentionally bang some escorts later down into the DMSI road to test its powers. Want to see if I can make an escort my **** buddy. and also get strippers numbers.

I feel so excited and happy for DMSI. I can feel this version is allot stronger. I can definitely feel this even though I hadn't used it for the last two days because of jail. i can tell those 2 or 3 loops did something to my thoughts/mind.

So, not sure I understand how paying for sex (or sexual teasing) is "testing the power" of DMSI when the goal of DMSI is to get people to approach and initiate very much without expecting payment... this sounds like a clever loophole you're trying to create and exploit.

[Raykon]

Spent my first weekend in jail. It was okay.

I did a loop today after I got out and went downtown walked the strip with some friends, approached 1 tall women and she had no interest whatsoever, she seemed scared and not interested in conversing at all. She seemed shy too.

I felt 0 feelings of rejection after I did it, also I am much more over the other chick now, and also I feel less jealousy when I hear of other guys getting laid allot. I used to have a little bit of envy surface but now I don't and feel even MORE SO that my time of glory is just around the corner (its already here but now its just a matter of meeting woman)\

Can't wait to get my ID back.. IN the mean time im going to start approaching day game again next week.

Also going to hit up strip clubs and potentionally bang some escorts later down into the DMSI road to test its powers. Want to see if I can make an escort my **** buddy. and also get strippers numbers.

I feel so excited and happy for DMSI. I can feel this version is allot stronger. I can definitely feel this even though I hadn't used it for the last two days because of jail. i can tell those 2 or 3 loops did something to my thoughts/mind.

So, not sure I understand how paying for sex (or sexual teasing) is "testing the power" of DMSI when the goal of DMSI is to get people to approach and initiate very much without expecting payment... this sounds like a clever loophole you're trying to create and exploit.

Okay fair enough I won't do that then. My thought process is that escorts and strippers are harder to make FWB because of there ego.situation options ect. I didn't plan to pay for strip dances btw. i just wanted to go there and talk to the strippers and see if i could get numbres or same day lays. I'll still be doing that, but i wont be banging the escorts I suppose that is a escape loophole I see what your saying.

[wolverine_i_am]

Hrmmm perhaps another loophole needs to be closed in the wall. Cause we want sex and paying for it will trick the mind into achieving the design goal. But we know that doesn't count. We shouldn't have to pay for sex.

[Shannon]

The wall has contingencies for any and all loopholes already.

[Raykon]

edit eee

[FluffyBunny]

Same here. My urge to fap, or even edge, has gone. I also plan to daygame more this week. Good luck!

I dont understand this no fap movement lol.

There doesn't seem to be anything wrong with it unless you are addicted/needing it. sure its good to cut it down, but seems like you guys are consciously trying hard to suppress the need. All this energy worrying about if fapping or not will affect you... now that's using energy that could be more productive elsewhere.

fapping or not fapping does not seem to affect me at all in regards of how women treat me. Energy level no noticeable effect either.

[wolverine_i_am]

Same here. My urge to fap, or even edge, has gone. I also plan to daygame more this week. Good luck!

I dont understand this no fap movement lol.

There doesn't seem to be anything wrong with it unless you are addicted/needing it. sure its good to cut it down, but seems like you guys are consciously trying hard to suppress the need. All this energy worrying about if fapping or not will affect you... now that's using energy that could be more productive elsewhere.

fapping or not fapping does not seem to affect me at all in regards of how women treat me. Energy level no noticeable effect either.

It does change your energy and aura if you do it for long enough. Most people just don't abstain for long enough to find out.

[Raykon]

Same here. My urge to fap, or even edge, has gone. I also plan to daygame more this week. Good luck!

I dont understand this no fap movement lol.

There doesn't seem to be anything wrong with it unless you are addicted/needing it. sure its good to cut it down, but seems like you guys are consciously trying hard to suppress the need. All this energy worrying about if fapping or not will affect you... now that's using energy that could be more productive elsewhere.

fapping or not fapping does not seem to affect me at all in regards of how women treat me. Energy level no noticeable effect either.

It does change your energy and aura if you do it for long enough. Most people just don't abstain for long enough to find out.

Yeah i didn't fap for 144 days ( and no porn) once in grade 12. I noticed MAJOR changes in my confidence and major decrease in my social anxiety. I was able to hold eye contact with beautiful women for the first time and i was much more at ease socialising at school with woman.

when i started fapping and watching porn the benefits i gained went away.

[SargeMaximus]

Same here. My urge to fap, or even edge, has gone. I also plan to daygame more this week. Good luck!

I dont understand this no fap movement lol.

There doesn't seem to be anything wrong with it unless you are addicted/needing it. sure its good to cut it down, but seems like you guys are consciously trying hard to suppress the need. All this energy worrying about if fapping or not will affect you... now that's using energy that could be more productive elsewhere.

fapping or not fapping does not seem to affect me at all in regards of how women treat me. Energy level no noticeable effect either.

It does change your energy and aura if you do it for long enough. Most people just don't abstain for long enough to find out.

Longest I ever did was 56 days. No porn, no touching my dick, no ejac aside from wet dreams. I noticed nothing. That's when I knew it wasn't anything special.

[Raykon]

Same here. My urge to fap, or even edge, has gone. I also plan to daygame more this week. Good luck!

I dont understand this no fap movement lol.

There doesn't seem to be anything wrong with it unless you are addicted/needing it. sure its good to cut it down, but seems like you guys are consciously trying hard to suppress the need. All this energy worrying about if fapping or not will affect you... now that's using energy that could be more productive elsewhere.

fapping or not fapping does not seem to affect me at all in regards of how women treat me. Energy level no noticeable effect either.

It does change your energy and aura if you do it for long enough. Most people just don't abstain for long enough to find out.

Longest I ever did was 56 days. No porn, no touching my dick, no ejac aside from wet dreams. I noticed nothing. That's when I knew it wasn't anything special.

I believe your supposed to go at least 90 days for the benefits of no porn to kick in. THere is a ted talk that talks about this.

[FluffyBunny]

Same here. My urge to fap, or even edge, has gone. I also plan to daygame more this week. Good luck!

I dont understand this no fap movement lol.

There doesn't seem to be anything wrong with it unless you are addicted/needing it. sure its good to cut it down, but seems like you guys are consciously trying hard to suppress the need. All this energy worrying about if fapping or not will affect you... now that's using energy that could be more productive elsewhere.

fapping or not fapping does not seem to affect me at all in regards of how women treat me. Energy level no noticeable effect either.

It does change your energy and aura if you do it for long enough. Most people just don't abstain for long enough to find out.

Longest I ever did was 56 days. No porn, no touching my dick, no ejac aside from wet dreams. I noticed nothing. That's when I knew it wasn't anything special.

I believe your supposed to go at least 90 days for the benefits of no porn to kick in. THere is a ted talk that talks about this.

@Wolve: when you have a decent level of energy as your default. The difference from ejaculation won't make so much of a difference.

@Sarge: I myself tried it for about 60days or so a few years back. That energy that you feel that is different is an increased level of sexual energy that kind of transfer into a horniness more raw energy where u just want to fuck women, and they can notice that. One theory is you get so horny you keep on thinking about it and it converts your energy into sexual energy and since there's no ejaculation you have to suppress it mentally and at some point, it shuts off. kinda like saying you got use to it and it became "normal". it is for sure not anything special...

@Raykon: why do you think no ejaculation made you more confidence? It is definitely not just cause you stopped fapping it is the change in your mindset of your view of women.

bottom line: don't get addicted to porn and waste your time and energy fapping off all day. But when you have a dam blue ball just let the goddam thing out.

[wolverine_i_am]

Same here. My urge to fap, or even edge, has gone. I also plan to daygame more this week. Good luck!

I dont understand this no fap movement lol.

There doesn't seem to be anything wrong with it unless you are addicted/needing it. sure its good to cut it down, but seems like you guys are consciously trying hard to suppress the need. All this energy worrying about if fapping or not will affect you... now that's using energy that could be more productive elsewhere.

fapping or not fapping does not seem to affect me at all in regards of how women treat me. Energy level no noticeable effect either.

It does change your energy and aura if you do it for long enough. Most people just don't abstain for long enough to find out.

Longest I ever did was 56 days. No porn, no touching my dick, no ejac aside from wet dreams. I noticed nothing. That's when I knew it wasn't anything special.

I believe your supposed to go at least 90 days for the benefits of no porn to kick in. THere is a ted talk that talks about this.

It shouldn't take this long to get benefits. I notice benefits within days. But yeah, it will vary for different people. I've also seen plenty of examples of people who do it for 2 months and notice zero benefits.

What I don't get is why people are coming onto this thread and debating so hard against other people's beliefs. LOL. You don't believe in no fap. That's fine. Other people believe in it. Let them. It's pointless going around and telling people their beliefs are wrong.

[K-Train]

Fluffybunny what you're saying would make sense for guys who already have a handle on fapping. It would make sense for guys who are not compulsive fappers or for guys who are not subconsciously fapping to avoid executing the script for DMSI. For other guys fapping is an issue because it is in one way, shape or form having a negative impact on their life. Your advice isn't "wrong" but it's also not going to be feasible for most of the guys who have that problem. Why you ask? Because if it wasn't that big of a deal Shannon wouldn't have decided to prevent the use of fapping via "The Wall". If it was that simple none of these guys would even NEED a subliminal program to get over it. I think the following exchange featuring Shannon and Sarge explains everything (key points are in bold).

PS: Raykon if you want this debate moved from your thread say the word man. Wolverine is absolutely right.

Porn is an escape from SCRIPT EXECUTION.

That is unfortunate.

3.2 is going to seek to prevent the use of porn, masturbation, fantasy, edging, procrastination and everything else from being used as a way to escape executing the script. The goal is to execute. So, if you want to look at porn, don't use DMSI.

I'll use DMSI. I don't need porn BUT I do enjoy it.

I don't suppose there's a way to have a sub distinguish between the reasons one uses porn?

So, if they're using it to escape, then that issue they have is dealt with, but if they use it because they like to yet still *cough* approach women every day *cough cough* then the sub knows they aren't using it as a means of escape but as a preferred form of entertainment?

Just an idea.

I could have it distinguish between uses, but then we have another potential loophole. Just have the subconscious define it as desired, and viola. Loophole.

Sorry, but somebody has to prevent you guys from escaping, and unfortunately, you left it up to me.

We goin' 100% airtight. I'm tired of this shit.