DMSI 3.1 - The Journal

[SargeMaximus]

Laptop.

[stratos]

Cool! p.s. it's funny that girls are like "here's my special # to use to call me late at night" and then guys are like "But DMSI doesn't work..no women are inviting me to have sex...". Mr. Anderson: My advice would be (not that you asked)... There's no "ball to play" you just need call her in the evening when you're in a mood for company and see if she's around to "hang out". If she declines then ignore her until she reaches out (which she probably would after waiting 10 days to see if you're needy.) and hang out with her then.

[Shawn]

Cool! p.s. it's funny that girls are like "here's my special # to use to call me late at night" and then guys are like "But DMSI doesn't work..no women are inviting me to have sex...". Mr. Anderson: My advice would be (not that you asked)... There's no "ball to play" you just need call her in the evening when you're in a mood for company and see if she's around to "hang out". If she declines then ignore her until she reaches out (which she probably would after waiting 10 days to see if you're needy.) and hang out with her then.

I appreciate all the advices. I am just somehow in disbelief that it could be that easy. Probably because I am simply not used to that something like this can happen to me.

[Choice]

I appreciate all the advices. I am just somehow in disbelief that it could be that easy. Probably because I am simply not used to that something like this can happen to me.

Sometimes it is that easy. If you don't try you'll never know

[Shawn]

Okay, texted her today. We talked about different stuff and then she came up with doing something together, but mentioned not only both of us but also together with other people. She said stuff like you cannot have enough friends and we come also well along together etc. I said that's fine but we also can do something together only both of us. She was fine with it until I mentioned watching a movie. First she still said, yeah, why not but then suddenly she was like "Oh, don't get the wrong idea here". I said we continue making plans when you are well again (she is sick).

This sounds for me more like she wanna be friends with me than FWB. Funny enough I don't even care that much if she wanna be only friends or not but at least it is not the goal for me. Honestly, I wish woman would be more straight with what they want and what not. This back and forth confuses me and I notice if I don't know where the journey goes I get insecure and get a lot fear of doing something wrong. So far for today.

[Blink]

I appreciate all the advices. I am just somehow in disbelief that it could be that easy. Probably because I am simply not used to that something like this can happen to me.

Sometimes it is that easy. If you don't try you'll never know

I second this. The ones that work out well, work out very easily.

[stratos]

Okay, texted her today. We talked about different stuff and then she came up with doing something together, but mentioned not only both of us but also together with other people. She said stuff like you cannot have enough friends and we come also well along together etc. I said that's fine but we also can do something together only both of us. She was fine with it until I mentioned watching a movie. First she still said, yeah, why not but then suddenly she was like "Oh, don't get the wrong idea here". I said we continue making plans when you are well again (she is sick).

This sounds for me more like she wanna be friends with me than FWB. Funny enough I don't even care that much if she wanna be only friends or not but at least it is not the goal for me. Honestly, I wish woman would be more straight with what they want and what not. This back and forth confuses me and I notice if I don't know where the journey goes I get insecure and get a lot fear of doing something wrong. So far for today.

Hey! In my opinion here, she's actually testing you here to see if you view yourself as "boyfriend" material for her (i.e. are you lower status than she originally thought when she viewed you only as quick hookup material). If you want to be viewed only as a sex partner and not boyfriend or friend, then I would suggest declining with a "no thank you" or giving her an excuse when your plans with friends come up. If she's awesome enough to be her boyfriend than by all means hang out around her friends but expect little to no sex and a lot of teasing and frustration. (Again this is just my opinion and experience). As I mentioned before a lot of times when you decline to hang out with women socially who dangled a sex offer, they'll wait 10 days (and a lot of times, exactly 10 days for some weird reason) before coming over late at night just for sex.

[Shawn]

Hey! In my opinion here, she's actually testing you here to see if you view yourself as "boyfriend" material for her (i.e. are you lower status than she originally thought when she viewed you only as quick hookup material). If you want to be viewed only as a sex partner and not boyfriend or friend, then I would suggest declining with a "no thank you" or giving her an excuse when your plans with friends come up. If she's awesome enough to be her boyfriend than by all means hang out around her friends but expect little to no sex and a lot of teasing and frustration. (Again this is just my opinion and experience). As I mentioned before a lot of times when you decline to hang out with women socially who dangled a sex offer, they'll wait 10 days (and a lot of times, exactly 10 days for some weird reason) before coming over late at night just for sex.

Well, afterwards I have been thinking if this might be the test. As I said I am not good at recognize these things. The thing is I have nothing against hanging up with her but of course I would prefer having sex with her. Looks like having both things is not possible the way you said it.

[SargeMaximus]

Hey! In my opinion here, she's actually testing you here to see if you view yourself as "boyfriend" material for her (i.e. are you lower status than she originally thought when she viewed you only as quick hookup material). If you want to be viewed only as a sex partner and not boyfriend or friend, then I would suggest declining with a "no thank you" or giving her an excuse when your plans with friends come up. If she's awesome enough to be her boyfriend than by all means hang out around her friends but expect little to no sex and a lot of teasing and frustration. (Again this is just my opinion and experience). As I mentioned before a lot of times when you decline to hang out with women socially who dangled a sex offer, they'll wait 10 days (and a lot of times, exactly 10 days for some weird reason) before coming over late at night just for sex.

Well, afterwards I have been thinking if this might be the test. As I said I am not good at recognize these things. The thing is I have nothing against hanging up with her but of course I would prefer having sex with her. Looks like having both things is not possible the way you said it.

I agree. I had the exact same experience as Anderson with the russian I went out witrh on V-Day. She texted me a few days later saying she had been thinking about me and stuff. Asked if I wanted to go for coffee.

Now, a bit of backstory: I had tried a day 2 with her and she said no. I ignored the logistics issues and chaosvrgn told me I needed to be more flexible. So I took his advice and ended up not getting a coffee date either.

So, my point is, in these situations, it seems like there's no right way to play it. If you don't take her bait, you're being "inflexible" if you be flexible, you're taking her bait. wtf.

[Shawn]

I agree. I had the exact same experience as Anderson with the russian I went out witrh on V-Day. She texted me a few days later saying she had been thinking about me and stuff. Asked if I wanted to go for coffee.

Now, a bit of backstory: I had tried a day 2 with her and she said no. I ignored the logistics issues and chaosvrgn told me I needed to be more flexible. So I took his advice and ended up not getting a coffee date either.

So, my point is, in these situations, it seems like there's no right way to play it. If you don't take her bait, you're being "inflexible" if you be flexible, you're taking her bait. wtf.

Well, THAT sucks. I think I should simply try to create a situation with both of us only before she sets something up with all the people around.

[stratos]

Yes exactly..they will accuse you when you don't want to hang out with their silly friends. A humor deflections works. "But sarge you are totally inflexible". "Sarge: In fact, I'm quite rigid at times with the right person."

[SargeMaximus]

I definitely thought the girl was supposed to be the flexible one...

[Shawn]

Quick update. Not much to report today. Got a pretty long crotch presentation in the train today and yesterday I saw a girl who seemed interested in me in the past twice after not seeing her for six months or so. But other than that nothing interesting happened.

[SargeMaximus]

What's a crotch display? Opening the legs?

What if she has her legs closed but doing so is exposing her camel toe?

I got one of those the other day.