Any difference between running AM-SM x times, and AM x times then SM x times?

[robstar]

Actually I've found the best way to get rid of seeking validation is when I'm on nofap, and then I have a true desire for sex rather than validation.

[Dzemoo]

yeah i think guys like catman should rather do the magnets more often then am because he lacks more of the qualities regading women then handling his life

unfortunatly guys whos goal is to have sex or get laid run am6 multiple times but the magnets once? where is the logic?

[JackOfHearts]

yeah i think guys like catman should rather do the magnets more often then am because he lacks more of the qualities regading women then handling his life

unfortunatly guys whos goal is to have sex or get laid run am6 multiple times but the magnets once? where is the logic?

Price can be a reason. Fear too, fear that SM3 will be too hard. Taking your time like I said previously. I'll surely run the magnet later when my life is good enough: What is the point of having a lot of women if you are completely broke and don't have a job.
AM6 is more balanced to me, it's not too much focus on girls, it's more on yourself and it is more what I want. It's not about validation, it's about being fulfill, living a good life, it's there are some girls around it's better but it's not the end if I'm alone because I enjoy being alone too. Also I feel that AM6 alone is enough to be good with women, the magnet is just a level on top

I would even say it's a good thing to be alone sometimes so you feel the difference and you don't depends on girls. It's like having a job for 5 years without any problem, you might get so use to it that you may fear that day when you are without any job. Same thing with women.

[RTBoss]

I'll surely run the magnet later when my life is good enough: What is the point of having a lot of women if you are completely broke and don't have a job. .

Well, if you're broke...Sex is FREE FUN!

[Voytek]

Not all of us want relationships with women. Many guys want just sex and I personally want to have a fun with women and later may be somehing-something. I`m little bored with my lonely alphaness and that`s why I`ll probably start WM just before I start studying. And than I`ll redo alpha training due Shannon recommends to do this once per year (up to 3-4 runs).

[Dzemoo]

yeah i think guys like catman should rather do the magnets more often then am because he lacks more of the qualities regading women then handling his life

unfortunatly guys whos goal is to have sex or get laid run am6 multiple times but the magnets once? where is the logic?

Price can be a reason. Fear too, fear that SM3 will be too hard. Taking your time like I said previously. I'll surely run the magnet later when my life is good enough: What is the point of having a lot of women if you are completely broke and don't have a job.
AM6 is more balanced to me, it's not too much focus on girls, it's more on yourself and it is more what I want. It's not about validation, it's about being fulfill, living a good life, it's there are some girls around it's better but it's not the end if I'm alone because I enjoy being alone too. Also I feel that AM6 alone is enough to be good with women, the magnet is just a level on top

I would even say it's a good thing to be alone sometimes so you feel the difference and you don't depends on girls. It's like having a job for 5 years without any problem, you might get so use to it that you may fear that day when you are without any job. Same thing with women.

true words.... i am also starting to enjoy the life of a single now, no long phone calls, no telling her where you go and with whom, no bullshit and no fear of loosing her

[Ryan]

I would do them back-to-back and still do.

SM seems to really compliment and boost many of the qualities with AM, it also gets you rounded out with women. I know many guys here do AM and expect to get a lot of women. But that's not the focus of AM... the focus of AM is more-so a foundation to be a better man which does make you more attractive. But, the qualities instilled via SM and WM are going to amplify that.

I see a lot of guys on here doing AM 3-4x in a row and then wondering "why is it so hard to get women?". Well in a lot of ways they start developing and/or continuing the same behavior they had, they don't see the results in AM so they start getting a little desperate to get those results. If they would have just done WM or SM they would have seen how easy it is and have that foundation of mindset about getting women vs. not getting women.

I will say on AM I had 10x more problems getting women than I did on SM. SM just made it all easy and effortless.

Also... I do find it's good to take a break from 1 program for a bit of time, but like I said some of the things that SM gives you builds off of AM that AM doesn't include, I feel like it's an extension but with a shift in goal. Having that mindset after 1 year is a solid foundation for the rest of your life if your goal is to get women.

By the way, the effects always seem to diminish slightly when you get off the sub, though hardly noticable. Now you are relying on your inner mindset vs. the subliminal. I never found your inner mindset to be as strong as it was when connected to the subliminal but it's still there. And every time you do it, it strengthens. That's the only diminish in results I've ever seen. Everything seems to pretty much stick around long-term and the next run-through strengths right off the bat.

[Dzemoo]

I would do them back-to-back and still do.

SM seems to really compliment and boost many of the qualities with AM, it also gets you rounded out with women. I know many guys here do AM and expect to get a lot of women. But that's not the focus of AM... the focus of AM is more-so a foundation to be a better man which does make you more attractive. But, the qualities instilled via SM and WM are going to amplify that.

I see a lot of guys on here doing AM 3-4x in a row and then wondering "why is it so hard to get women?". Well in a lot of ways they start developing and/or continuing the same behavior they had, they don't see the results in AM so they start getting a little desperate to get those results. If they would have just done WM or SM they would have seen how easy it is and have that foundation of mindset about getting women vs. not getting women.

I will say on AM I had 10x more problems getting women than I did on SM. SM just made it all easy and effortless.

Also... I do find it's good to take a break from 1 program for a bit of time, but like I said some of the things that SM gives you builds off of AM that AM doesn't include, I feel like it's an extension but with a shift in goal. Having that mindset after 1 year is a solid foundation for the rest of your life if your goal is to get women.

By the way, the effects always seem to diminish slightly when you get off the sub, though hardly noticable. Now you are relying on your inner mindset vs. the subliminal. I never found your inner mindset to be as strong as it was when connected to the subliminal but it's still there. And every time you do it, it strengthens. That's the only diminish in results I've ever seen. Everything seems to pretty much stick around long-term and the next run-through strengths right off the bat.

agree on that

[TheRealJustin]

I would do them back-to-back and still do.

SM seems to really compliment and boost many of the qualities with AM, it also gets you rounded out with women. I know many guys here do AM and expect to get a lot of women. But that's not the focus of AM... the focus of AM is more-so a foundation to be a better man which does make you more attractive. But, the qualities instilled via SM and WM are going to amplify that.

I see a lot of guys on here doing AM 3-4x in a row and then wondering "why is it so hard to get women?". Well in a lot of ways they start developing and/or continuing the same behavior they had, they don't see the results in AM so they start getting a little desperate to get those results. If they would have just done WM or SM they would have seen how easy it is and have that foundation of mindset about getting women vs. not getting women.

I will say on AM I had 10x more problems getting women than I did on SM. SM just made it all easy and effortless.

Also... I do find it's good to take a break from 1 program for a bit of time, but like I said some of the things that SM gives you builds off of AM that AM doesn't include, I feel like it's an extension but with a shift in goal. Having that mindset after 1 year is a solid foundation for the rest of your life if your goal is to get women.

By the way, the effects always seem to diminish slightly when you get off the sub, though hardly noticable. Now you are relying on your inner mindset vs. the subliminal. I never found your inner mindset to be as strong as it was when connected to the subliminal but it's still there. And every time you do it, it strengthens. That's the only diminish in results I've ever seen. Everything seems to pretty much stick around long-term and the next run-through strengths right off the bat.

Nice post Ryan.

If you read this and have time, which would you recommend more. SM3, or WM2 based off of nothing but personal preference?

And would you run AM more, or the attraction sub of your choice more?

I plan on BASE being my first 6 stage set, and if my financial situation really does improve from it I will buy am6 and then either WM2 or SM3. In my current view of women and the world I feel like WM2 would be more beneficial no comparison, since women like sex to really just be the frosting on the cake, and you really have to give them the cake before you even take the frosting out of the fridge so to speak, but I also know there is plenty of men that are just like "here's a cake, let's go to the bathroom now." and that's literally their reality with dimes, so I'm just wondering your personal preference between SM3 and WM2...

[Ryan]

I honestly can't say man lol. It's all about preference and frankly I'm wondering what I want to do next as well because it is a difficult decision.

If you want to be social, have a lot of fun, see life as fun and be very optimistic about things, love people and being around people, and chatting to women left and right with them being drawn to you like flies on trash, more full-filling relationships, and already have no issue leading women to sex, WM is your sub.

If you want to get laid a lot and be pursued (even used) for sex mostly, be overly horny a lot haha, feel more dominant and the ability to instantly turn women on, SM is your sub.

You will have more fun and excitement on WM (that's one major thing I miss) but you will feel more dominant and have tons of sex without doing a thing on SM.

So it really depends on what you want now and there's no reason you can't do all 3

Ryan

[Benjamin]

true words.... i am also starting to enjoy the life of a single now, no long phone calls, no telling her where you go and with whom, no ***** and no fear of loosing her

Yeah I really can't imagine being married, living with someone or whatever.. it repulses me and mostly always has. I used to force myself to be in relationships and it would be okay for a while but then i'd all of a sudden feel trapped and find a way to end it.

Interestingly this girl i'm seeing now has been around for like a year, though a few times i've ended it and started talking to her again.. the difference is she hasn't tried to trap me in a relationship or push anything like that and I still have freedom and I also have the freedom to sleep with other girls.

If that wasn't the case she would have been gone long ago.

[Voytek]

Ben, you probably know, than humans are not monogamous per se so lifetime relationships are against our nature. How long "love" lasts? Two may be three years and than everything is over. Besides, "love" is only some biochemical reactions acting in our brains and that`s all. No magic, no wonders, only delusions based on biochemistry. For me, women are only source of fun and pleasure, IDGF about emotional connection and all this BS. Just look at our parents or people around in long term relationships. It`s a piece of... you know what. It`s only my opinion, guys, live your own life and enjoy "love" if you "feel it".

[dissonance]

Damn, I was gonna ask Ryan a question about what he was like before subliminals, and what his current love life is like. But noticed he's banned! Anyone know if he can respond to private messages still or not?

[Dzemoo]

you can add him on facebook there you can see how his life is