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#57
Remember, those two books are recommended reading because the provide the basics to get you started in the right direction. A lot of guys need that - as did I, although I didn't read them until I was about half way through my journey using the various versions of the Alpha Male set.

If I have read Deida's book, I don't remember it. I'll have to check on that at some point.
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#58
(05-07-2021, 01:16 PM)Shannon Wrote: Remember, those two books are recommended reading because the provide the basics to get you started in the right direction.  A lot of guys need that - as did I, although I didn't read them until I was about half way through my journey using the various versions of the Alpha Male set.

If I have read Deida's book, I don't remember it.  I'll have to check on that at some point.

I see, I can understand how it can fill out the initial gaps for someone in that position.

I hope you take a look at it, I believe you will find things inside the book that will confirm and validate findings you are leaning on in creating your AM program, and perhaps even some sections that will give you some food for thought.

Furthermore, I would be thrilled to know that you had incorporated the findings from the book Good to great (4/5 in rating with 140 000 votes on Goodreads) in terms of leadership training in the program. If you haven't read it already, here is an article introducing the findings and what constitute what they call a "Level 5 leader", based on highly successful business CEO's measured over a long-term perspective. Attached image below that summarize the concept.

https://hbr.org/2001/01/level-5-leadersh...-resolve-2#

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Wish you a productive week.
 
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#59
@Johannesbrst those are great recommendations. I read Deida's work and purchased good to great but haven't started it yet. Just watched an animated summary and purchased the audiobook.

+1 that @Shannon should get on board with those books.
 
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#60
I'm now reading "Double your dating" and reflect on how orthogonally different it is from "Becoming the alpha male". While the latter focus on questionable advice like "hiding putting the condom on to not get the girl get into an adverse mindset" and "not looking girls in the eyes when they talk because that's how CEOs do" DeAngello instead focus on how to create the interesting tension between the sexes and using your humor. John Alexander's book seem to be much more fear based than DeAngellos mindset, which I have a much easier time to resonate with and look to integrate into my personality.
 
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#61
I haven't read those books in a long time, but I don't remember reading those things in Alexander's book when I read it.

At this point, I'm expecting to do away with book recommendations for the next version, but it's still a long way out.
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#62
(07-20-2021, 09:33 AM)Shannon Wrote: I haven't read those books in a long time, but I don't remember reading those things in Alexander's book when I read it.

At this point, I'm expecting to do away with book recommendations for the next version, but it's still a long way out.

I see, looking forward to it and sounds promising that you expect it to be powerful enough to help the user develop in the right directions without conscious interference.

Just FYI, here are the exact quotes that at least made me a bit weary reading them. And I was wrong about the eye-contact part as it was directed to talking to other guys, still I find it hard to see that a guy with a solid sense of self-esteem would need to overthink his eye-contact with other men. This book provide much advice just like this, doing small things that I feel are borderline manipulation and projection rather than working on developing a good self-esteem and let other things follow from that. Double your dating is much more aligned in doing that.


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By the way, be careful with condoms. The sight of a Trojan wrapper in your hand can snap a woman out of her horny state by triggering that portion of her brain that's been programmed to think sex is "bad."
It’s important to use condoms, however, in order to be safe from disease and pregnancy, so try to put on your condom fast, without making a big scene out of it.
What I do is put on the condom while I’m eating the woman out (and she's too distracted to notice what I'm doing with my hands), so that when she’s ready for me to enter her, everything goes smoothly


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The only time you should make eye contact w/ a guy is when you're saying something to him. When the other guy is talking, don't look at him much, instead looking off to the side. (Ever dealt with a CEO? That's exactly what they do when it comes to eye contact.)
 
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#63
Seems like you misunderstood these advices, these are because not let them the women fear, or touch some "logiical" nerves in her brain.

These are nothing to do with manipulation , just some basic body language, high value males (you also can see in champenzees) do not look to the other one while talking, this shows the other male, "you are below me". Of course you should do all things together
AM6-1(4.19)--AM6-2(11.19)--SE-5.5G--AM6-3(9.20)--SE 5.5G(3.21)--AM6-S7(6.21)

"To be able to shape your future, you have to be WILLING and ABLE to CHANGE YOUR PARADIGM." - Joel Barker
 
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#64
(07-20-2021, 01:17 PM)tolgaocal80 Wrote: Seems  like you misunderstood these advices,  these are because not let them the women fear, or touch  some  "logiical" nerves in her brain.  

These are nothing  to do  with  manipulation  , just some basic body language,  high value  males  (you also can see in champenzees) do  not  look  to the other one while talking,  this shows the other male, "you are below me".  Of course  you should do all things together

That's exactly the issue I have with it. A real high value man who appreciate himself have no need for putting other people in place "below them", because his value isn't conditional on what others see in him, but what he see in himself 

And regarding the attraction part, if you create attraction by being a high value man in the first place you don't have to be concerned to much with what subjects you are talking about, because your attention and the non-needy place it's coming from will be enough to keep her interested. That is why I'm arguing the book is based on shallow, fear-based advice rather than working on improving yourself and reducing your neediness to inherently increase the value women get from interacting with you.
 
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#65
Yep, the alpha-sigma male wouldn't worry about trying to put others below them, you are right on that. You could b right.

I read books, but never needed to use those "trying s". AM already gives you an aura of authority.
Those books might be for very first starters, but they are useful with basic things. It is not fearing, going under radar till sex happens.
I read a lot of pua who are demonstrating alpha male attributes and most of them were never saying anything about sex. Some of them was saying "i am virgin" or "i am gay" all those because some women have the idea of "sex is bad". And if you want to fuck her, regardless of how self confident or alpha you are, you must stay below the radar. These are my ideas of course
AM6-1(4.19)--AM6-2(11.19)--SE-5.5G--AM6-3(9.20)--SE 5.5G(3.21)--AM6-S7(6.21)

"To be able to shape your future, you have to be WILLING and ABLE to CHANGE YOUR PARADIGM." - Joel Barker
 
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#66
I don't remember that part in the book, but from what you quoted I completely disagree with this advice. I've never had that issue. If you're able to do it smoothly it's fine.
 
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#67
If putting on a condom triggers her to reject sex, man, let her go. The fact that you're taking the time to make sure she is safe against pregnancy and disease should open her up more, not shut her down. If I was getting a negative response because I was putting on a condom, I would definitely not be impressed, and she very likely would never get another chance at sex with me.
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