07-06-2013, 08:14 AM
(07-06-2013, 06:18 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:(07-05-2013, 11:44 PM)About Wrote: That is a huge conversation holy cow.
Tell me about it About. lol.
(07-05-2013, 11:44 PM)About Wrote: Sarge, how much of these subliminals have you been using? I have actually been through a total of 2 AM runs, starting with 2011 then it goes to 5.0. In between that I used SM1.0 and during that sub I brought home a woman. I'm flattered that you think i'm in some other territory than you are that I can bring home a woman.
Well you are my friend, I've never brought home a woman in my life.
I have so far been through a full set of OGSF (3 months, or 92 days, whichever the ascribed amount was for it), and am now on Stage 4 of AM 5.0.
(07-05-2013, 11:44 PM)About Wrote: You say you don't talk to women. Don't you talk to them just in general? At a store? Maybe at work? I'm surrounded by women all the time. I'm starting to catch a theme in them. If they aren't interested in talking to you, then you don't need to talk to them. Same thing happens to women, when they don't want to talk to a man, they ignore them. Sometimes we just can't pick up those signs, but I have been catching them more recently.
No, not really. I mean, I say hi to girls that I see at desks at my gym or at the counter at the grocery store (I got a girl to help me find the chips the other day and she didn't even work there, though I told her she should have) you know, day to day stuff. But conversations, meh. Not really interested. It's hard for me to pretend I'm interested when I'm not. I can do it, and I always get great results, but I just get exhausted and soon lose my enthusiasm, and girls rarely have anything interesting to say in my limited experience.
(07-05-2013, 11:44 PM)About Wrote: Basically, the smoother your conversation goes, the better it is. My previous skill level was that similarly to yours. I almost never talked to women in order to attempt to date them. I have always been very good at just talking to them for no reason, minus pick up attempts. I'm learning that picking up is not what you want to do, rather just talk to them so that they don't sense you want anything from them. Nothing will make a woman think you're a creeper faster than you talking to the thing in between their legs.
I know. It's a weird thing, but basically I've understood that sex will happen between two people if the conditions are right, so the focus is on building the conditions (connection, rapport, privacy, etc) rather than on ***** her.
I'm also flattered that I'm where you were, that means there's hope! lol.
(07-05-2013, 11:44 PM)About Wrote: So you also say that women try to get into relationships by just going on with their lives and hoping to sort of fall into one. That is my understanding of what you said unless I'm mistaken, but I agree with this sentiment. This is the best way, because before you know it, you won't even have to think about approaching a woman, she will actually come up and talk to you because you are too busy trying to do your thing to notice her. That kind of stuff drives them crazy!
Yes, and what you do then is draft her into what you're doing. Be playful a little bit after the initial draft, and after your done doing the thing you were doing, follow up with her by getting (or giving, can't decide which I want to do) the number. Or, best case scenario: exchanging information. Never try to get, that's a big "no no".
(07-05-2013, 11:44 PM)About Wrote: These are just a few observations I've noticed. I mean, these specific things happen to me, and I'm thinking to myself "this must be the reason why!!!"
Exactly, I've had the same situations come up and yes, draft the woman into what you're doing. Look her over, decide if she's worthy of joining you, then draft her. She'll either go along or not. Either way, it's always about your purpose in life, and she'll sense that.
(07-05-2013, 11:44 PM)About Wrote: So yeah, which programs have you done so far? Because, for me after SM1.0, I started forgetting about what the subs have been doing to me. That surprises me the most because once I started AM5.0, then moved onto WM2.0, my life has been going into insanity (in a good way). Basically what I want to say is, one of the best ways to use these subliminals are to put them on play, forget about what they did and go on about your day. I find that since WM2.0 started, I've been WAY more social, just like Shannon had claimed would happen to me. I didn't know how much, nor did I really think about it or stress out. It just kind of happened and it was an extremely nice surprise.
Yeah like I said, only 1 and a half so far. I think you're right too, best to forget about them. I try not to monitor the progress of these subs and just live my life, but I also want to journal so I can see the change, and provide it for others to see. It's a delicate balance, and I don't exactly know where the middle ground is.
(07-05-2013, 11:44 PM)About Wrote: And to add on one more thought, I still do not talk to women to date them. Except when I exchange numbers with them. Once I have their number, I know they either enjoy my company or will ignore my phone calls/messages in which case I forget about them faster than a jet plane.
Lol, cool. I look forward to having such a mindset. Good luck with WM, sounds like it's treating you well.
You seem to have the correct mindset.
Quote: No, not really. I mean, I say hi to girls that I see at desks at my gym or at the counter at the grocery store (I got a girl to help me find the chips the other day and she didn't even work there, though I told her she should have) you know, day to day stuff. But conversations, meh. Not really interested. It's hard for me to pretend I'm interested when I'm not. I can do it, and I always get great results, but I just get exhausted and soon lose my enthusiasm, and girls rarely have anything interesting to say in my limited experience.
This is perfect. Just have those conversations. I've done those to everyone. Pretty, hot, attractive, and believe me the unattractive as well. They think of you as a person who is just willing to have a conversation to them, and when each and every single girl, say at work or at your gym find that you are talking to them without any intent to hook up with them, that will send them mad and make them wonder why hasn't he asked me for my number!
This is the kind of mindset that I believe men in a relationship live by. When I was in college, my mindset was I must get laid. Once I had a girlfriend in college, by no skill of my own rather by luck, I adopted this mindset because I had a lady. After all my runs with these subliminals, I have actually adopted this mindset almost all the time rather than just when I'm in a relationship. It's kind of like saying "I'm really full right now, I can't have another bite" but applying it to women even if you don't have a girl in your life. You know that out of all the women that you talk to, you could easily escalate it to something more but you choose not to.
I have this belief that my former female coworkers (I have since left that job) all are attracted to me in some way and may not necessarily want anything from me other than my attention. I got this way by speaking to each and every one of them in the way I mentioned above. It doesn't matter who I'm talking to, it all comes back to me in a good way. I get some hate too, but hate is part of the game. I ignore those that give it to me because that type of negative attitude is nothing I want in my life.
I am the type of guy who never approached women ever, but ended up reading pick up material since I was 16. I'm 24 now, and have since stopped for nearly 2-3 years, around the time I started shannon's subliminals. They helped me realize that it has nothing to do with what you read, but just getting out there and having fun. Despite all the material I've read, I come across multiple contradicting information and my best drawn conclusion from reading material for that many years is to forget all that and just do what works for you. I have been told I'm a very cute guy. As emasculating as it is, since cute cannot be sexy and sexy is masculine/feminine (cute is cute), I still use it to my advantage. I might have moments of being masculine but really all I have to do is just be myself.