Shannon's Journal Discussion

[eternity]

Hey Shannon, I remember you saying something recently about higher volume vs lower volume and how they relate to resistance, and the symptoms of the resistance, like depression and fatigue. If I'm remembering correctly, you said that if the user is feeling fatigued, volume should be turned down, and if you're feeling depressed volume should be turned up? I can't remembering exactly, so that might be wrong. Could you re-touch on that when you have the chance? I'm going to copy and paste it somewhere on my computer so I can save it, because it's great info. Currently the past several days, I'm feeling super fatigued and tired during the day. I'm running DMSI v2.2.

If the user is feeling fatigue, it means they're resisting the sub and/or processing some deep healing. You don't need to adjust the volume for that.

If you're feeling depressed, it means some part of you wants to escape the change, but knows it cannot, and begins to feel hopeless. Conscious awareness of this is depression. It also does not need a volume change.

It was anger and rage vs depression that we were talking about.. If you're having an anger and rage response, generally it's going to be because it's too loud and you're a control freak, and taking the volume as a command instead of a suggestion.

Just to clarify, do you mean fatigue caused by resisting dmsi specifically? Or subs in general?

I am having insane fatigue during stage 3 of BASE, and I have dark circles from hell under my eyes. I would think that going on 3 months of "improve your sleep quality" module would provide enough rest to avoid fatigue but I don't find that the case.

I also seem to be in a state of dozing consciousness, where I'm mentally not present in the moment at times throughout the day, which is very peculiar. Almost as if I'm phasing in and out of consciousness for miliseconds, but still being aware.

My experience does fit your description of resistance, and BASE is by far the most challenging sub I have ever run, reinforcing resistance causing exhaustion

[4Kingdoms]

I'm thinking that maybe what we need to do is have two versions - one with, and one without the healing modules. Perhaps "Healing" and "Hunting". Or Stage 1 and 2.

But I still need to learn a few things before I'm sure what to do next. I do have a lot of interesting ideas though.

If you make it two stage you should put something in the healing stage what lets you know when you are done with healing and can move on to stage 2.

I second here Anderson's, something that could tell us that we are done with the clearing and then move to the second stage which is all about the auras and scripting of sexual irresistability. I am quite content with version2.2 and thankful for it. But this new thought of two stages is a brilliant one Shannon and deserves a bit of your time.

You should also consider that there will always be someone that will skip/bypass Stage 1 Healing and just go straight to Stage 2 Hunting.

A person that did E2 for instance, might do Stage 2 Hunting. Then there is the person that doesn't believe they don't need any healing! And the impatient person, that wants results now; regardless of the consequences...

[maxx55]

I'm thinking that maybe what we need to do is have two versions - one with, and one without the healing modules. Perhaps "Healing" and "Hunting". Or Stage 1 and 2.

But I still need to learn a few things before I'm sure what to do next. I do have a lot of interesting ideas though.

If you make it two stage you should put something in the healing stage what lets you know when you are done with healing and can move on to stage 2.

I second here Anderson's, something that could tell us that we are done with the clearing and then move to the second stage which is all about the auras and scripting of sexual irresistability. I am quite content with version2.2 and thankful for it. But this new thought of two stages is a brilliant one Shannon and deserves a bit of your time.

You should also consider that there will always be someone that will skip/bypass Stage 1 Healing and just go straight to Stage 2 Hunting.

A person that did E2 for instance, might do Stage 2 Hunting. Then there is the person that doesn't believe they don't need any healing! And the impatient person, that wants results now; regardless of the consequences...

If the 2 stage DMSI brings superior results compared to a single stage DMSI, it should be done.

There will always be people who want to skip steps and stages. All that matters is it achieving the goals effectively when following instructions. I know I'd start off with the healing stage despite my use of E2 since launch day.

[Shawn]

I'm thinking that maybe what we need to do is have two versions - one with, and one without the healing modules. Perhaps "Healing" and "Hunting". Or Stage 1 and 2.

But I still need to learn a few things before I'm sure what to do next. I do have a lot of interesting ideas though.

If you make it two stage you should put something in the healing stage what lets you know when you are done with healing and can move on to stage 2.

I second here Anderson's, something that could tell us that we are done with the clearing and then move to the second stage which is all about the auras and scripting of sexual irresistability. I am quite content with version2.2 and thankful for it. But this new thought of two stages is a brilliant one Shannon and deserves a bit of your time.

You should also consider that there will always be someone that will skip/bypass Stage 1 Healing and just go straight to Stage 2 Hunting.

A person that did E2 for instance, might do Stage 2 Hunting. Then there is the person that doesn't believe they don't need any healing! And the impatient person, that wants results now; regardless of the consequences...

If the 2 stage DMSI brings superior results compared to a single stage DMSI, it should be done.

There will always be people who want to skip steps and stages. All that matters is it achieving the goals effectively when following instructions. I know I'd start off with the healing stage despite my use of E2 since launch day.

Most people would probably profit from the healing stage, but even then there are people who don't need stage 1 to get results at all. So stage 2 shouldn't require people do stage 1 as prerequisite.

[Shannon]

Shannon: I Know this was brougth up a while back ...but will BAMM be getting a 5.5/6g re-vamp,re-do and will it be LATER this year as in december sometime as a beginning of a re-do of BAMM in 6g or will that be next spring 2017 some time? forgive me coz Im know you've answered some such, two months ago,I forgot. sooo much has transpried and happened since then. thnx. Keith..

It will probably be re-done in 6G, sometime next year or in 2018.

That's sooner than I anticipated based off of your current workload

I'm really looking forward to it!!

How many 6G technologies do you anticipate being in BAMM 3.0?

All of them that apply. Since I am not yet finished developing 6G,m I will estimate that number to be 110+.

[Shannon]

also shannon why dont you make a sub to astral travel for us and yourself. I've tried loads of ways to astral travel and cant do it so maybe you can make a sub for it. You might be able to find the missing pieces for subs like dmsi. You could also add in protection and the ability to remember your astral travel experience.

Also please upgrade the eyesight sub, make it: restore eyesight back to 20/20 vision 5.5g/6g.

Thanks

Astral travel is a complex subject, and it would be a lot of time and research spent to make such a sub, with no real way of knowing if it will work and if it does not, why.

I have a hint for you, though. You travel astrally every time you sleep for long enough to complete at least one full cycle of sleeping brainwave states. It's just that you don't remember it because your conscious mind is asleep, and you don't know how to activate it and bring it with you. There are books which teach how to do that.

The eyesight sub I'm pretty sure I can do, and believe me, I'd love to walk into my optometrist's (opthamologist's?) office and suddenly need no corrective lenses. "How'd you do that?"

"Oh, I created a corrective subliminal."

That would be awesome. I'll be working on that at some future date.

[Shannon]

I'm thinking that maybe what we need to do is have two versions - one with, and one without the healing modules. Perhaps "Healing" and "Hunting". Or Stage 1 and 2.

But I still need to learn a few things before I'm sure what to do next. I do have a lot of interesting ideas though.

If you make it two stage you should put something in the healing stage what lets you know when you are done with healing and can move on to stage 2.

That's not a bad idea.

[Shannon]

Hey Shannon, I remember you saying something recently about higher volume vs lower volume and how they relate to resistance, and the symptoms of the resistance, like depression and fatigue. If I'm remembering correctly, you said that if the user is feeling fatigued, volume should be turned down, and if you're feeling depressed volume should be turned up? I can't remembering exactly, so that might be wrong. Could you re-touch on that when you have the chance? I'm going to copy and paste it somewhere on my computer so I can save it, because it's great info. Currently the past several days, I'm feeling super fatigued and tired during the day. I'm running DMSI v2.2.

If the user is feeling fatigue, it means they're resisting the sub and/or processing some deep healing. You don't need to adjust the volume for that.

If you're feeling depressed, it means some part of you wants to escape the change, but knows it cannot, and begins to feel hopeless. Conscious awareness of this is depression. It also does not need a volume change.

It was anger and rage vs depression that we were talking about.. If you're having an anger and rage response, generally it's going to be because it's too loud and you're a control freak, and taking the volume as a command instead of a suggestion.

Just to clarify, do you mean fatigue caused by resisting dmsi specifically? Or subs in general?

Subs in general. Fatigue can also come when you overload your mind with input it cannot keep up with processing, or if you're trying to expend more energy than you have to work with.

I am having insane fatigue during stage 3 of BASE, and I have dark circles from hell under my eyes. I would think that going on 3 months of "improve your sleep quality" module would provide enough rest to avoid fatigue but I don't find that the case.

Not in the middle of the program. You'll probably want to reduce your hours of exposure, but keep going.

I also seem to be in a state of dozing consciousness, where I'm mentally not present in the moment at times throughout the day, which is very peculiar. Almost as if I'm phasing in and out of consciousness for miliseconds, but still being aware.

That sounds like microsleeps, which would happen if your brain were extremely exhausted.

My experience does fit your description of resistance, and BASE is by far the most challenging sub I have ever run, reinforcing resistance causing exhaustion

You would likely then want to slightly reduce the volume and run time, and see how that works out. What volume/run time per day are you using now?

[Shannon]

I'm thinking that maybe what we need to do is have two versions - one with, and one without the healing modules. Perhaps "Healing" and "Hunting". Or Stage 1 and 2.

But I still need to learn a few things before I'm sure what to do next. I do have a lot of interesting ideas though.

If you make it two stage you should put something in the healing stage what lets you know when you are done with healing and can move on to stage 2.

I second here Anderson's, something that could tell us that we are done with the clearing and then move to the second stage which is all about the auras and scripting of sexual irresistability. I am quite content with version2.2 and thankful for it. But this new thought of two stages is a brilliant one Shannon and deserves a bit of your time.

You should also consider that there will always be someone that will skip/bypass Stage 1 Healing and just go straight to Stage 2 Hunting.

A person that did E2 for instance, might do Stage 2 Hunting. Then there is the person that doesn't believe they don't need any healing! And the impatient person, that wants results now; regardless of the consequences...

Of course people will bypass the healing stage. That's kind of the point... to give them the option to if they want to. Then if they fail, they can go back and run healing, and try again.

But, having it be 2 stages would also make it twice as expensive.

I'd really prefer to just make one stage and make it do what I want it to do.

[dissonance]

Hey Shannon, I remember you saying something recently about higher volume vs lower volume and how they relate to resistance, and the symptoms of the resistance, like depression and fatigue. If I'm remembering correctly, you said that if the user is feeling fatigued, volume should be turned down, and if you're feeling depressed volume should be turned up? I can't remembering exactly, so that might be wrong. Could you re-touch on that when you have the chance? I'm going to copy and paste it somewhere on my computer so I can save it, because it's great info. Currently the past several days, I'm feeling super fatigued and tired during the day. I'm running DMSI v2.2.

If the user is feeling fatigue, it means they're resisting the sub and/or processing some deep healing. You don't need to adjust the volume for that.

If you're feeling depressed, it means some part of you wants to escape the change, but knows it cannot, and begins to feel hopeless. Conscious awareness of this is depression. It also does not need a volume change.

It was anger and rage vs depression that we were talking about.. If you're having an anger and rage response, generally it's going to be because it's too loud and you're a control freak, and taking the volume as a command instead of a suggestion.

Ahhh okay thanks, that clears it up. By the way, for the optimal loops, I forgot exactly, but does it mean that 3 is the optimal for all, or most will do best with 3, but some will do better with 2 or 4, or other amounts? Or did the bell curve represent effectiveness of that amount of loops, not amount of people who respond best to that amount of loops? (If you know what I mean)

[SargeMaximus]

I'm thinking that maybe what we need to do is have two versions - one with, and one without the healing modules. Perhaps "Healing" and "Hunting". Or Stage 1 and 2.

But I still need to learn a few things before I'm sure what to do next. I do have a lot of interesting ideas though.

If you make it two stage you should put something in the healing stage what lets you know when you are done with healing and can move on to stage 2.

I second here Anderson's, something that could tell us that we are done with the clearing and then move to the second stage which is all about the auras and scripting of sexual irresistability. I am quite content with version2.2 and thankful for it. But this new thought of two stages is a brilliant one Shannon and deserves a bit of your time.

You should also consider that there will always be someone that will skip/bypass Stage 1 Healing and just go straight to Stage 2 Hunting.

A person that did E2 for instance, might do Stage 2 Hunting. Then there is the person that doesn't believe they don't need any healing! And the impatient person, that wants results now; regardless of the consequences...

Of course people will bypass the healing stage. That's kind of the point... to give them the option to if they want to. Then if they fail, they can go back and run healing, and try again.

But, having it be 2 stages would also make it twice as expensive.

I'd really prefer to just make one stage and make it do what I want it to do.

Why can't we just have no healing stage? I mean, E2 is good enough for healing things on it's own isn't it? (I'm not into the healing thing, but for those who are I mean).

By the way, I think it would be a good idea to include PDF's with the programs detailing things like optimal loops and also the more recent post you made on what constitutes resistance and how to deal with it using volume etc.

[ncbeareatingman]

MY Guess THolt...is every one of them and THEN some...as far as 6G technolgies are concerned but I hear Shannon saying something like,nah NOT everyone of them becoz everyone of them is NOT compatibible for and with the goal of BAMM...well then the equivalant of every one of them,by the tiem its done becoz it will have as many new bells and whistle's in it as it can possibly hold,once complete aka. 6G techology top secret protocol,application.

[THolt]

Shannon: I Know this was brougth up a while back ...but will BAMM be getting a 5.5/6g re-vamp,re-do and will it be LATER this year as in december sometime as a beginning of a re-do of BAMM in 6g or will that be next spring 2017 some time? forgive me coz Im know you've answered some such, two months ago,I forgot. sooo much has transpried and happened since then. thnx. Keith..

It will probably be re-done in 6G, sometime next year or in 2018.

That's sooner than I anticipated based off of your current workload

I'm really looking forward to it!!

How many 6G technologies do you anticipate being in BAMM 3.0?

All of them that apply. Since I am not yet finished developing 6G,m I will estimate that number to be 110+.

110 is amazing. BAMM 2.0 is so good it's hard to imagine how BAMM 3.0 will be like.

[eternity]

Hey Shannon, I remember you saying something recently about higher volume vs lower volume and how they relate to resistance, and the symptoms of the resistance, like depression and fatigue. If I'm remembering correctly, you said that if the user is feeling fatigued, volume should be turned down, and if you're feeling depressed volume should be turned up? I can't remembering exactly, so that might be wrong. Could you re-touch on that when you have the chance? I'm going to copy and paste it somewhere on my computer so I can save it, because it's great info. Currently the past several days, I'm feeling super fatigued and tired during the day. I'm running DMSI v2.2.

If the user is feeling fatigue, it means they're resisting the sub and/or processing some deep healing. You don't need to adjust the volume for that.

If you're feeling depressed, it means some part of you wants to escape the change, but knows it cannot, and begins to feel hopeless. Conscious awareness of this is depression. It also does not need a volume change.

It was anger and rage vs depression that we were talking about.. If you're having an anger and rage response, generally it's going to be because it's too loud and you're a control freak, and taking the volume as a command instead of a suggestion.

Just to clarify, do you mean fatigue caused by resisting dmsi specifically? Or subs in general?

Subs in general. Fatigue can also come when you overload your mind with input it cannot keep up with processing, or if you're trying to expend more energy than you have to work with.

I am having insane fatigue during stage 3 of BASE, and I have dark circles from hell under my eyes. I would think that going on 3 months of "improve your sleep quality" module would provide enough rest to avoid fatigue but I don't find that the case.

Not in the middle of the program. You'll probably want to reduce your hours of exposure, but keep going.

I also seem to be in a state of dozing consciousness, where I'm mentally not present in the moment at times throughout the day, which is very peculiar. Almost as if I'm phasing in and out of consciousness for miliseconds, but still being aware.

That sounds like microsleeps, which would happen if your brain were extremely exhausted.

My experience does fit your description of resistance, and BASE is by far the most challenging sub I have ever run, reinforcing resistance causing exhaustion

You would likely then want to slightly reduce the volume and run time, and see how that works out. What volume/run time per day are you using now?

Well I had high volume and high hours in hopes of bulldozing resistance, considering my starting point in relation to the subs goals, but I will definitely lower both and see if that helps.

I'd say volume is -45 dB at the location my ears would be. During sleep it might vary by +-2 or +-3 dB depending on which directions the speakers face (either away from my head or towards my head), if my pillows end up covering my Kindle fire (device with built in stereo speakers that play the subs), and other various sleep related reasons.

Hours have been between 15 and 18 hours per day, depending on accessibility to devices.

I will try to limit exposure to 12 hours a day and maximum of -50 dB and see if that changes anything.