05-15-2015, 08:36 PM
(05-15-2015, 12:20 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote:(05-15-2015, 10:51 AM)TheRealJustin Wrote: I've been deep into pua since I was 17, and during that time I believe it did more harm to me than good. About 2 years ago I found out most of it was just marketing. Not people actually wanting to help, but people wanting to sell their products and sell affiliate products. That made me hate pick up, and I became myself again, but the basics stuck with me, and they do make a huge difference and I'm thankful for that.
Now I don't actually hate pua, but I say don't let it change you, only have it as salt to flavor the meal.
And that's tight you're going to watch that show. I always recommend it but nobody ever listens to me. It's fricken amazing, and it's a perfect display of the human mating dance from all angles.
I'm curious why you recommended a PUA if you yourself feel that pua stuff has ruined your life.
But yeah I'll watch it, but only keep watching it if I like it of course. I'm not committing to anything here lol.
PUA stuff moved me a TON of steps backwards, but in the end shot me way ahead from where I was. Maybe ruined my life isn't the right thing to say, but it fu**ed me up until I truly started to understand things, including a lot of what a lot of puas will say is just fluff and b.s. to just keep us interested so we keep buying their products and their affiliate offers.
I recommended you Julien Blanc because he seems very similar to you in his view on women, and he works for Owen Cook which in my opinion is the most legit pua out there.
How pua 'ruined me' was I would go out and just approach women and feel stupid and it would be stupid and just was idk, just not myself. I had a cool friend group and we hung with a ton of hot girls and I just got weird and everyone went from loving me to thinking I was a creep loser, it just f'd me up lol, but in the end it's all for the best I feel. I wouldn't change anything.
Now I see pua though like a skate boarding video. They try so many times and take so long just for a small amount of footage for a few minute part in a skate boarding video. I'd say pua's are the same way, go out and film all day every day and sometimes get a nice clip to show, and they make some serious bank. It's a lot easier for them to go game on random hotties with a friend filming them and if it get weird they can always say, 'hey it's not serious we're just doing a social experiment seeing how people react, look, there's a camera right there, this isn't serious.
Not saying there aren't pua's that can't go out and have some crazy crap happen and get laid insanely easy by super hot ass girls, and make out with girls they just met and finger girls and f**k girls they just met, idk what I'm saying really.
I guess pua wise I'd recommend fitting it in your own personality instead of trying to change who you are. Not that you are trying to change who you are, but that's kind of what I was doing. Like Shannon said though, these pua's will approach hundreds of girls a day just to get that one little clip, but some are so good at game that it's like almost all their interactions are good ones.
The biggest thing that really helped get me back on track the most was Owen Cook saying be the party instead of trying to join their party. Meaning, just be having the most fun and the girls will want to be a part of you're reality instead of going up to the girls trying to get into their reality, idk if I'm making sense. A lot of this stuff is kind of hard to explain and hard to understand until it just 'clicks' but I definitely recommend Owen Cook you can see his vids on youtube by searching rsdtyler (I'm actually about to check that out now that I'm thinking about it, haven't been there in a while) and I recommend the most to you specifically because I think you would resonate with him the most Julien Blanc, and you can check his youtube searching rsdjulien. What's great about these two also is they're rich as hell, Owen Cook especially, so they just give out all of their info right on their youtube channel. They'll even tell people to go ahead and torrent download their products because they give all the info for free anyways. They make all their riches doing bootcamps every weekend, and I'm sure a lot of people still do buy their stuff just to show support.