01-05-2016, 02:39 PM
(01-05-2016, 01:59 PM)Survivor Wrote:(01-05-2016, 10:17 AM)TheRealJustin Wrote: Also, this line here concerns me:
I am now consciously aware of all the positive effects this program has had and is having on me, and I attribute them all to this program.
Makes me think maybe I just give subs credit for things they don't deserve credit for just because something happened while I was running the sub.
If the subs work they will speak for themselves there's no need for a line like that.
I know that line supposedly only goes into programs with 'the naturalizer' but what's to stop him from putting it in every program anyways so basically every little positive thing that happens in our lives we give thanks and praise to Shannon because our brains are basically forced to credit him for everything good that happens while we are running a sub, lol man this is just too much unneeded stuff.
If you're going to be a sub producer, just create some awesome subs without all this extra bullsh*t, or else if you need the extra crap then don't charge for your subs, just give them out for free, but warn people of all the extra stuff you have in the subs that they most likely will not want getting programmed into their subconscious mind.
'I am now consciously aware of all the positive effects this program has had and is having on me, and I attribute them all to this program.
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You know what, what I find amusing is that even though there are such lines in the script, Shannon still takes his time to say to people for whom a particular sub hasn't worked that 'it is partly because of the naturaliser, it is subtle'.Considering there are such obvious lines in the sub the naturaliser doesn't even need acknowledgement..
This is like a line that says 'I am now consciosly aware that the program is working /making impact/whatever for me'- How can we know if there isn't such lines in the subs ? The truth is we can never know, even if we feel there is such thing! Such a line could very much, as you say, trigger you to give credit for any little thing that happens , with that wording it sounds pretty powerful and all-encompassing.
Yea, though that line isn't a big deal to me I think it would be better if it were something more like
"It's easy for me to notice what this sub is doing even when the change is so natural it feels like I've always been this way"
Something like that but shortened up idk, just something so we don't credit every little thing to the sub but still do give the sub credit where it's due.
I never tried a sub with the naturalizer in it so idk maybe if that line wasn't there I would try it and be like "these subs don't do sh*t" but really I'm a completely different person, but I'd have to hope I'd beable to think back to how I was before the sub and see myself afterwards and see the difference without being scripted to see the difference, but like I said that line isn't a huge deal to me, that wouldn't make me reconsider buying something but it is something that could just be left out I think.
And you're right a lot of people will use subs with the naturalizer and not get any results.
That also makes me curious about the apcode because Shannon has mentioned if you activate the apcode it will affect the use of other programs.
So, pretend someone runs Sex Magnet 3, and they get some results, but to them it was nothing impressive and they feel like though they had some internal results, 500 dollars was too much money.
Now, say that person returns the sub. That means that they used the subs for free, there's virtually no difference between that person and a pirate since they both used and benefited from the subliminal absolutely free.
So, is the person that bought sex magnet 3, ran it, and got little results, and then returned it, are all of the future subs they run going to work differently?
For pirates Shannon has said for example if you run AM5 even for 10 seconds fr free, you need to buy am5 before starting AM6 or else the program will be working differently. He doesn't say it won't work, he says it works differently.
So, for someone who buys and gains some value, and then returns, will all of their future purchases run differently also?
How will the brain know to run future programs differently in one senario and not the other?
There's just too many outcomes from too many situations, and too many unknowns and that's why I'm so against apcode. I'm not against Shannon or his subs I hope people understand that I just want to get what I pay for and nothing more.
Everyone makes it seem like I'm just trying to make it so people can pirate his sh*t worry free, I'm not.
See, there was a store metaphor used earlier about a store not being afraid of theft but also the paying customers have nothing to worry about with alarms, security guards, and cameras. They don't affect paying customers in anyway and there's literally nothing to worry about.
If these stores, however instead of having those security measures just played a subliminal over the speakers to program their brains, then guess what?
NOBODY WOULD SHOP AT THAT STORE!!!!!
You can't analogize two things that simply don't go together they are too different literally if theft is that big of a deal, seriously you can put these subs on CD and sell them at Target and Best Buy and have the security that a store offers.
Seriously.
I would MUCH rather go to Best Buy and buy these subs on CD's and NOT have all this extra stuff in them.