01-01-2016, 03:55 PM
Yes you're correct the industry (which includes the higher ups) isn't suffering. I should have been more specific and stated that the lower tier artists are getting the short end of the stick. Newer artists getting pooped on by the labels is a big problem and definitely has a long standing track record. But piracy has/does effect(ed) lower tier artists on big record labels. One reason is because bigger labels will normally have more "hands in the pot" so to speak. This means that as an artist you have to sell well if you want the guap (Big Sean reference lol). Selling well is the goal regardless but this piracy will make it harder to varying degrees. Not that I'm losing sleep that Ariana Grande isn't getting all her money lol.
It could also force artists to make better music and come up with more creative ways to stay afloat which can be a positive. Although I'd be curious how many people feel that music today is better than old school music but that's another debate
. However as you stated going independent and moving away from the big labels is a safer practice and more and more artists are doing that especially in hip hop/rap. My example of the music industry was meant to illustrate piracy does have an effect how much or how little is debatable. Overall, you made a good point apollux.
Bringing it back to subliminals, Shannon isn't rich like these music executives plus we don't have any statistics showing how much money he's losing per month to piracy. We do know (based off statements made in the past) that this company has never had to borrow money from the bank to stay afloat but we also don't have stats on how much money the current AP code has saved/recovered for Shannon. Those would be very useful stats for both sides but I think acquiring those stats would be nigh impossible (talking explicitly for the AP code stuff). Regardless, with that information alone the argument can be made that Indigo Mind Labs would survive without any AP code at all (which they were doing before 2013).
Just like some people wonder how a certain artists would sell without bootlegs I just sometimes wonder how much further this particular company would be with things such as R&D if piracy didn't exist but I admit that its one of those thoughts you have when you're on the patio smoking lol. That's my whole perspective on it.
@Real Justin: Love that clip, what episode and season is that from?
It could also force artists to make better music and come up with more creative ways to stay afloat which can be a positive. Although I'd be curious how many people feel that music today is better than old school music but that's another debate
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Bringing it back to subliminals, Shannon isn't rich like these music executives plus we don't have any statistics showing how much money he's losing per month to piracy. We do know (based off statements made in the past) that this company has never had to borrow money from the bank to stay afloat but we also don't have stats on how much money the current AP code has saved/recovered for Shannon. Those would be very useful stats for both sides but I think acquiring those stats would be nigh impossible (talking explicitly for the AP code stuff). Regardless, with that information alone the argument can be made that Indigo Mind Labs would survive without any AP code at all (which they were doing before 2013).
Just like some people wonder how a certain artists would sell without bootlegs I just sometimes wonder how much further this particular company would be with things such as R&D if piracy didn't exist but I admit that its one of those thoughts you have when you're on the patio smoking lol. That's my whole perspective on it.
@Real Justin: Love that clip, what episode and season is that from?