12-30-2015, 12:20 PM
Guider Wrote:It's not disgusting it sounds fair^ none of what Shannon has ever done or his products have ever given me that impression. Sounds like you guys have a hidden agenda. Others might buy into it but I can see it. Why would anyone put so much effort into this AP code argument? We have lives and self improvement to focus on...
LOL! I see where you're coming from man. On one hand, I'm like "Eh, I bought most of my sh!t so this AP code thing doesn't really bother me". Plus, most of my stuff with a few exceptions are 3G/4G so again the AP argument wasn't that big of a deal to me. I can understand how some of the guys feel exasperated by the whole argument because some of us basically feel like "if I obtained the subliminal legally then who cares". I think that's pretty much what you're saying and I mostly concur.
I don't think that Survivor or any of the other guys are out to "get" Shannon ( I could be wrong but I'll wait and see). Some of these points raised are legitimate. For example, if Shannon's statements from his posts are NOT matching the statements on his website...that's a problem. I personally do not think he's intentionally trying to turning us into a cult or lie however if his website's information is not correctly reflecting or conveying his/the company's stance then Survivor does have a legitimate point because stuff like that can and has gotten people in trouble.
Second point, I think if everyone knew that the AP code could/would ONLY affect pirates then the arguments would become moot. But if Leonidas is saying that a subliminal designed to only affect dudes (AM) is/was affecting a woman then that raises concerns.
For the most part here is what (mostly) everyone seems to be in agreement on.
1.) There needs to be some kind of AP code to protect Shannon's intellectual property.
* Nobody seems to be in disagreement on the Anti-Piracy education implementation suggestion.
2.) Whatever that AP code is it must only affect the pirates and NOT paying customers.
3.) The AP code must be "self-terminating". In other words, once the sub is paid off, no more effect from the AP code.
For the guys with a negative view of the "harvesting" thing, would you object to a statement such as the following:
"If I pirated/illegally obtained this program I now direct my energy towards paying off the EXACT amount owed to Indigo Mind Labs and NO MORE". Or would you fellas just be more content with a complete removal of that concept?
As stated I'm fine with the AP code but I'd be more than willing to compromise on simply eliminating (or replacing) concept 2 and moving on from since it (concept 2) really isn't that important to me.
@Chaosvrgn: I agree that a "deactivation switch" as an AP Code would be the simplest however there's always the chance it could still work anyway as someone else pointed out. If it CAN be done, then I think that solution should be implemented.
@Dzemoo: WOW...I'm not even gonna lie I'm impressed someone has the know how to pull that off (talking about the X24 thing). This definitely makes me wonder just how far off someone is from catching up with the technology here...
