12-28-2015, 05:13 PM
(12-19-2015, 11:25 PM)CatMan Wrote:(12-19-2015, 11:47 AM)FrostedFake Wrote: snip
Read: we suck and build subs that do crappy things. So if we can't do epic things, obviously anybody who says they can is full of ****. LOL.
Dat arrogance doe.
I guess everything I've achieved with all but 1 of Shannon's programs is placebo haha. 1.25 years of listening to programs and still placebo? I don't know about that lol.
Also lol'ing HARD at "There is Absolutely NO EVIDENCE that any Subliminal Message given beyond normal conscious perception (as opposed to masked by a carrier sound) has any effect. NO Study of ANY product has ever produced a result.". Run a free ultrasonic of Shannon's, either EHPRA or ASC 5G especially, for 32 days, and tell me "there is absolutely no evidence". Smh...
Man, it must feel a bit lame at times to be Shannon. Here you are with nuclear weapons, and people with slingshots just say anything beyond slingshots is a claim to scam you or doesn't exist, just because they're stupid and arrogant and believe if they can't do it, it's impossible. So ridiculous. He's said most of the people around him either became believers in his stuff over time, or still just think he scams people and that subs do nothing. Just the way it is I guess. Even some people *I* know, still don't really believe I run a "real" business, whatever that means, and think I run some sketchy place too. Despite all the massive success over time. Just silly nonsense.
Good find, FrostedFlakes!
I have to say it's frustrating. "Modern science" is it's own worst enemy in the sense that the hard sciences are so paranoid about being right that they have made the soft sciences (psychology, in this case) insecure, and now everything's going to hell. Well I have news for you. Psychology is a soft science and no amount of analysis and statistics is going to make it more or less valid than it already was. And it does not need the approval of the "hard sciences" to be valid. This is why psychology today is based largely on throwing pills at problems instead of fixing them. Pills are "scientific" (i.e., chemistry)!
In the case of subliminals, it's about like a bunch of people in a circle all pointing to the person ahead of them for the facts. "They said X is true, so it must be true." Nobody understands the mind or the concepts of subliminals and how to evaluate them well enough to get far. So it's just "Well in 1976, this is supposed to have worked, and it had a study behind it, so it must work."... as if nothing has changed since then.
But whatever. I mainly ignore the rest of the world and just do my research and development, and keep building programs. And I know when it works, because you guys vote with your wallets. In terms of testing, that's a pretty harsh one.
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The scientist has a question to find an answer for. The pseudo-scientist has an answer to find a question for. ~ "Failure is the path of least persistence." - Chinese Fortune Cookie ~ Logic left. Emotion right. But thinking, straight ahead. ~ Sperate supra omnia in valorem. (The value of trust is above all else.) ~ Meowsomeness!