12-18-2015, 05:44 PM
(12-17-2015, 07:10 PM)mat422 Wrote:SargeMaximus Wrote:Ah, I see. Whereas I believe that all people have the SAME soul. Like plants growing from the same root (forget what trees do this, but some trees have entire sections of forests where the trees are all from 1). I believe it is the denial of this fact that makes us think we are separate and therefore need to defend ourselves against the "others".
Hmmmm, I might be biased. For as long as I can remember I've been uncomfortable with being the same as everyone else. Maybe it has to do with losing my identity. Or maybe it has to do with being uncomfortable with the awful things some people do and being connected to that. Either way I'll have to continue thinking about this.
Definitely biased then. I had/have the same thing. I would (sometimes still do, have to watch myself
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(12-17-2015, 07:10 PM)mat422 Wrote:SargeMaximus Wrote:I disagree, most label stuff is entirely ego-driven as a direct result of thinking we are different from other people. When you realize you're not, the fear evaporates.
I think the challenge would be to get people to realize that. Conscious intervention rarely works unless they are aligned with it on a subconscious level as well. Which is why I think it's important to get at the fear first. It's different for you because you're seeking these things and have awareness of them. But for some people it's like they are asleep, they can't see these things or they don't want to.
Lol, well I can definitely agree with you there, most people seem to be asleep, but when you are present and aware, you awaken everyone with you as well (I've noticed this doing sales. Being a "salesman" didn't work for me, I had to be genuine "me", and by extension, a lot of people tried to match my level of intelligence. Long story, could be a case study to be honest, but it's interesting. This is more proof imo for the unity of people. One person can change everyone in a room if he is present enough, and has stronger mental fortitude. Basically, the strongest mind/reality wins, and all others conform to it.).
(12-17-2015, 07:10 PM)mat422 Wrote:SargeMaximus Wrote:I am actually experiencing, more and more, people treating me nice no matter what. People who can be mean to others are nice to me without fail. Again, I believe that is because I am not 'different' to them, and this could be reversed if everyone realized it.
Not trying to argue here or belittle your own realizations, but aren't you running AM? I think Shannon incorporated external approval into the script. So people treat you with respect. So there might be other stuff going on here.
Ah, but do Shannon's subs change the laws of reality? I do not think so, therefore, even if Shannon's subs are letting me tap into this reality more potently, it still is THIS reality I'm tapping into, therefore it works this way with or without subs.
I didn't know Shannon put external approval in AM 6. I thought it was all internal?
But again, if I'm getting it, I am in line with something true and factual, based in reality, otherwise it would not work.
(12-17-2015, 07:10 PM)mat422 Wrote:SargeMaximus Wrote:Again, I think the "difference" they "perceive" is ego-driven, not rooted in the facts at all.
But, you both can and can't achieve this. It depends on where you come at it from. Are you an individual that needs others to agree with your viewpoint? Then there will always be some form of non-acceptance.
However, if you accept the other people that are evil, manipulating, cold-hearted, murderous fiends, and that's ok, then you will not. So you see, it's only possible to accept everyone if you accept EVERYONE. And only then, will there be peace.
I guess that just might be me. I usually pick up different vibes from people and it's not really on any conscious level.
Oh dude, so do I! Speaking of, my brother has had the weirdest vibe lately! I can feel it much stronger than other people's. It actually makes me uncomfortable and I do not know why.
(12-17-2015, 07:10 PM)mat422 Wrote: To me acceptance is a slippery slope. I can't really accept evil in this world because part of me wants to know why they might do the things they do. What drove them to do it? Is there a way to show them how to not harm others? I can't accept the whole light and dark, good and evil, balance thing. To me it's just too much of a cop out. I guess it's because I have a strong sense of morality.
Again, I think people do evil things because they do not understand how this unity works. At the base of all the crime is fear, greed, etc. All things that vanish once you realize you are one with everyone, and you ARE everyone as well.
I also do not believe there are any evil people, but I DO believe that people do evil things. Again, because of some misunderstandings or semi-consciousness. I think it's safe to say, however, that most people do what they do to improve life for themselves. Murdering and doing heroin is not much different in that in both cases the person is committing an act on an impulse (or not) with the intention to improve their life or experience of life in some way.
(12-17-2015, 07:10 PM)mat422 Wrote:SargeMaximus Wrote:Well I think life is as complex as you make it.
True. I'm always digging for more answers though. I like making life complex I guess.
That's fine, so long as it serves you, and doesn't hurt you.
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