12-18-2015, 03:42 AM
(12-18-2015, 02:02 AM)Dzemoo Wrote: I think its impossible for you to programm us in that way that we cant experience negative emotions. So if the subs can make us achive our goals more effective since fear hate and so on are powerful emotions, then go do it i am ok with. For me the most negative emotion i can have is not achieving my goals.
I also read somewhere that sugestions with negative emotions are more effective.
Anyway to the rest of the discussion here, i think its pretty unfair towards shannon. You guys should be ashamed.
And shanon you seem to be stressed, i suggest you to ignore the forum for a while and concentrate on your work.
I think, after more than 20 years doing this, that I not only can write scripts without using negative phrasing, but that I should also be able to achieve the goals of the program without relying on negative emotional states to do so. To that, I hasten to add, there is one exception, and that is...
During AM6, when you feel stressed, upset, angry, frustrated... in the beginning... those emotional states are being expressed in response to the program freeing you of your fear, guilt, shame and weakness. And they are negative because there is friction going on: you're being instructed to stop allowing others mistreat and take advantage of you. Those states are not directly caused by the script itself, but by the reaction to the script and the limits and mistreatment most guys put up with before becoming their own man. They were not initially intended, but they are useful because they help to motivate you to empower and improve yourself. When the growth has achieved a sufficient level, the stressors are gone because you have made the necessary changes, and the negative emotions fade.
If I were to neutralize all negative emotional states, it would take much longer for the program to work because you would be more comfortable. And as it stands, even with those stressors, it takes most guys 2-3 runs. That should show you just how much growth the program is actually accomplishing.
And suggestions with negative emotions are more effective for exactly that reason. Induce fear and it's effortless to manipulate people and motivate them to do anything; the news media and political parties use this all the time to influence the votes and maintain civil obedience. Various other factions use fear, guilt and shame.
But those states, while they motivate in the short term, are, again, damaging. I am not here to do damage. I am here to help fix the damage done by others and try to get people to stop damaging one another.
Nobody said doing this the right way would be easy, or quick. But I assure you, the long term benefits will be enormous.
It has been exceedingly frustrating for me to try to motivate action without using negative states. But, I am doing a good job of it in the 6G prototype, and it's forced the development of a large number of technologies that will benefit subliminals creation for a long time to come. Last count, I had "only" documented 39 of the new technologies I have developed for 6G. There are many, many more that I have yet to document.
You also have to remember that I have the responsibility of making sure EVERYONE who uses my stuff is considered. That's why my creed is Safe, Useful, Effective. Just because you personally don't mind giving up positive methods for a quicker result does not mean that it is a good idea, an ethical thing for me to do, or safe. And safety always comes first. Remember that this is about trust, and trust is built on reliable reproducible correct choices. I stand out because I do do it right. Even if it takes decades. Even if it's frustrating. Even if sometimes it seems like I'll never get there. But in the end, I keep going because I know that I will. Just because nobody else was willing to do the work, doesn't mean the pot of gold isn't to be found at the end of the rainbow.
I will never compromise on Safe, Useful and Effective. The moment I do, I lose trust and I lose the support of the people who were giving it. Without that trust, I cannot accomplish my real goals. And without accomplishing those goals, there is no reason for me to be alive.
As for stressed... can you blame me? lol I have to deal with putting out fires like these. While I do extraordinarily advanced, complex, confusing, time consuming and challenging research and development. While I build top quality flawless subliminals. I do the work of several people... and I can't teach anyone else how to help me without risking too much. So yeah, I get stressed sometimes. But that's part of the job.
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The scientist has a question to find an answer for. The pseudo-scientist has an answer to find a question for. ~ "Failure is the path of least persistence." - Chinese Fortune Cookie ~ Logic left. Emotion right. But thinking, straight ahead. ~ Sperate supra omnia in valorem. (The value of trust is above all else.) ~ Meowsomeness!