12-15-2015, 09:19 PM
(12-05-2015, 06:11 PM)TheRealJustin Wrote:(12-05-2015, 04:05 PM)Dilettante Wrote:(12-04-2015, 08:56 PM)TheRealJustin Wrote:(12-04-2015, 01:05 PM)Mr. Anderson Wrote: If you didn't stop it, finish it AND pay for it.
(12-04-2015, 01:04 PM)Light Wrote: Guys if he got a copy from a friend? Is that piracy?
Could it affect the results?
I am just curious
It is, because he didn't pay for. But Shannon said it has still it's full effect but people who use pirated versions pay in another way for. He never revealed how does it work exactly.
You're trippin balls, that's NOT piracy AT ALL.
So if I go to the store and buy The Lord Of The Rings on DVD and I give it to a friend, then that means my friend PIRATED IT???? Fuc* NO is this a joke?
If someone buys something they can LEGALLY give it to whoever they want to.
Sorry Shannon and whoever else but that is not piracy.
If I buy a game for my xbox I can give it to whoever the fu*k I want to give it to, and there is NOTHING illegal about that.
Legally speaking, Lord of the Rings is bought as copy for exhibition which grants your rights to watch it. However, dissementating said media to others is considered creating another copy and thus piracy.
People forget that the money you pay allows for you to have END USER RIGHTS ONLY. Not a wholesale ownership of the artwork (movie, video games, etc). End user rights does not have dissemenation to one other or to a mass audience.
Read this warning used in most DVDs. Assumption for home use is for DVDs. A Blockbuster (they dont exist anymore) or a Hilton Hotels can show LOTR in their premises as they agree to a different licensing fee than you or I (that 5 bucks you give to walmart for some crappy Van Damme movie is giving you license to view Van Damme's awful acting skills (sorry JCVD fans just an example); Hilton or Blockbuster pays way more than 5 bucks per exhibition)
It does not grant you (legally) rights to transfer said home viewing license or video game playing licnese.
That said, nothing can stop you from lending that Call of Duty to your friend. But running programs simultaneously using the same Product Key is damn near impossible (Xbox checks it before xbOne) so only one of you can use individually or both od together. Still, lending a game to your friend while you own it does not make it legal. it only falls into a grey zone of legality in which your friend assumes your rights temporarily (for only the home viewing parameters of the End User License) & must revert back at the time of the license check (ie when xbox says, plug in your product key).
Subliminals are tricky in that there's only digital. Xbox games (now) are disc dependent and rely on one disc one exhibition parameters of copywrite law (ie of you own the cartridge, you own the playing right). It becomes illegal if you create a new disc (hence product keys were needed to ensure no illicit copies).
I'm not a lawyer and this is not legal advise but know that IML is within its rights as a digital artist to put in whatever they want in the sub.
BTW, those who legally buy things here get treated to a 20 bullet-point list of rights and responsibilities witb regards to the product being purchases.
One of them is that IML is held harmless to anything that occurs while using the product because it is used for entertainment purposes only and not to be used as medical advise (this is standard language for most subs or if you buy things like The Secret book or even Amazon mp3s).
Another states that you will not disseminate extra copies of the program in violation of copywrite law (Florida is strict with copywrite law).
Another states that customer will assume responsibility that happens forthwith (lets say you get aggressive using AM6 and break someone's nose) & exhibition of end user license, you agree that IML is not a party to any liability you incur (as it is entertainment and you hold your actions to your ownself). Etc.
So to challenge your statement:
1) its not shady, its within IML's legal rights to put the piracy code
2) Your end user license (which can cost up to $500 for AM6 or SM3 damn lol) only grants you some exhibition rights, you dont own the artistic or copywrites to the product (& thus subsequent profits if you re-sell, not that you would lol)
Quote:WARNING
The copyright owner has licensed this video recording for home use only. All other rights are reserved.
WARNING
The copyright owner has licensed the film (including
it's soundtrack) recorded on this video recording for home
use only. All other rights are reserved.
The definition of home use excludes the use of this video
recording at locations such as clubs, coaches, hospitals,
hotels, oilrigs, prisons and schools.
Any unauthorised copying, editing, exhibition, sale,
rental, ending or any other kinds of trading, public performance or transmission by air, cable or otherwise of this video recording or any part thereof is strictly prohibited and any such action establishes liability for civil action and may give rise to criminal prosecution.
I don't care about technicalities. I don't want to sit at a friends place and watch a movie I didn't pay to watch and then feel some urge to buy that movie to complete fair value exchange.
There's no reason for that or anything like that to be programmed into my brain. I don't steal, or pirate, and I'm not sharing any of these subs and I pay money for these so why should I have to have that stuff try to change the way I think?
I use youtube all the time to listen to audiobooks that cost money, but I listen on youtube for free, so what if one day I just start buying all this stuff when there's no reason for me to?
I think I'm just never going to try out anything more powerful than 4g. I've been using subs for a while and I still do stuff that the AP code would for some reason count as pirating, so it must not work on me in 4g, but I don't need a powerhouse sub blasting those thoughts into my brain because I see things completely different.
and @Ben you're right, I apologize for the way I worded things.
If people took the time to have a clue about what they were doing, I wouldn't have to spend time on AP code design and implementation, and spending forever and a day answering threads like this one when I could be working.
Most people are so used to pirating digital things that they have no idea that's what they're doing. As it appears you have done.
In that case, I have to think for them. I have to define what triggers AP code and if they don't take the time to read the FAQ or THINK... then they get to deal with AP code.
If you were in my shoes, what would you be willing to accept? If you were making your living doing this, what would you consider piracy? The problem is that people like you seem to think there is no such thing as a content producer and they only think of the situation from the point of view of the consumer.
If you want something of value, you have to pay for it. Simple as that. Borrowing dad's car is called "borrowing" because you have to use it under his rules and timelines, because HE owns it, because HE paid for it. If you don't want to deal with those restrictions, buy your own car! Same thing here. Equal exchange of value.
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