Shannon, concern about the current effectiveness of a program

[AlphaRomeo]

But as I said , on a subsconscios level a woman will always want to control you, trick you, manipulate you, ALWAYS. She wants to control you to be a provider.She wants to trick you to have baby(even if she doesn't realise it).She wants to manipulate you so that can get her needs met and her emotions satisfied.

Dude this is such a poisonous belief. Maybe with some women, the manipulative ones. But not all women. And sex isn't always about procreation, it can just be solely for pleasure.

The way these subs work is based on your own beliefs. So if you believe all women are manipulative then it will execute that perfectly. The result would be no women because you've convinced yourself all women are manipulative.

'Dude', these are bullshits. This is not a belief.This is basic human biology! You have to understand that I am not presenting my beliefs, I am presenting a biological point of view, questioning lines in the sub.

Care to provide some links to evidence/research about what you say to be a basic human biology in regards to this? In your original post you talk about it as if it were a fact, without any reference to actual evidence. I understand the biological needs to have a baby, and/or "provider" (someone who has resources etc..)...but to jump from that to the conclusion that "all women are manipulative.." is one hell of a jump if you don´t provide any reference.

"Biologically,women want 1.great genes 2.provider, because they invest a lot more of their time and resources when it comes to sex, and sex is a much more risky experience for her . Women SUBCONSCIOSLY want to have a baby from a guy if he has one of those , even if contraception is being used. (and of course, if attraction is there, but attraction is basically when you have one of those 2 ).So,any woman who will want to have sex with you will want to 'trap'you, trick you, control you in some way. After all, they want a provider for their 'baby' ( again, this is subconscios, and is valid even if contraception is being used). "

You are trying to prove the first argument (what women want) with the second argument (so any woman...want to trap/trick), not with evidence. It´s like saying "giraffe has the longest legs of all the animals SO giraffe can run faster than any other animal."
Words such as "so" or "because" does not make the words that follow after necessarily true.

Women wanting something that they invest in (time/resources) and is risky, does not necessarily mean they all try to get what they want by being manipulative.