Question for Shannon About AM/SM

[AfzalG]

i find it pretty depressing that some great guys like sarge and other guys here are still virgins after using all the major subs... i would be frustated too, i mean you see how much you are doing and investing in yourself and then you see other guys doing like nothing regarding self improvement and getting all the things you want, also some other guys loose theire virginity with am stage 2 or something like that

i enjoyed reading the posts of both shanons and sarges its like both are speaking the truth i have experienced the same thing as sarge and had a similiar discussion going on in my head... of course shanon tells you how it has you to be, and you tell him how it is in your reality ... its like both of you are right only that your prespective is less useful...