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@ Shail

Double blind experiments are the best we can currently do. The subconscious mind will know what's going on if you only do single blind - where you attempt to deceive or confuse yourself - because it has a MUCH better memory that the conscious mind ever imagined possible. It literally NEVER forgets. Anything.

I'm still finding it difficult to understand single and double blind experiment.

In a true double blind experiment, I would not know who was getting the experimental stuff and who was getting the placebo, and the experiment subjects would not know what was placebo and what was influence-intended subliminal. We can do that by having me create three or six programs, and have two of them be representing each of three types of option: the genuine article being tested; a subliminal giving neutral statements that should not have any effect on behavior at all; and a program that represents subliminal audio without a script, which also should not have any effect at all.

Then you download the programs, choose one, and use it, for 3 months, without telling me which one you're using or what the effects you're getting are. You keep a journal, and record the effects you believe are attributable to the subliminal, and which are not.

This way, you cannot know which one is a placebo, and your subconscious knowledge cannot skew the results; and I cannot subconsciously give you any clues to which one is supposed to do what, because I don't know which one you're using, and we don't talk about it until you're done with the experiment.

This would allow you a double blind experiment. I would know what was what, but you wouldn't. You could not possibly have subconscious knowledge of which was what. By using something like this, you would be forced to respond according to what actually was there, and it would reveal any placebo effect or resistance present.

In this kind of experiment as i have understood so far there will be 2 possibilities one with a program (subs) and the other without it (let's say blank). I'm willing to understand the mechanism of double blind experiment. How could this reveal placebo effect or resistance. Particularly the blank one as the other will easily reveal resistance/result which depends on the experience or effect of the subs leaving on me and if does nothing then that would easily reveal resistance if any.

There are usually three possibilities in a double blind experiment: actual subject being tested, a "placebo" and nothing. Or, rather, three groups, one testing the actual product, one testing a placebo that that could be the product, and one gets nothing at all.

The way we have to do this, with only you testing, and because it is possible to detect silence (nothing) easily) is to adjust things a bit, as specified above.

In a real scientific trial, as many test subjects as possible are put in each group, and all get the same thing. This gives the researchers as much data as possible, and reveals personal variances. We only have you for this, however. So whatever you experience is going to reveal either a placebo (if you get a result other than you should have according to what was actually tested) or resistance (if you do not get the result you should have while testing the actual program). The other option is that you pick the actual subliminal and it works because you didn't consciously resist it out of not knowing what you were using.

If you use, say, the program representative of "nothing", which might be the subliminal sound of white noise, for instance, and you start getting self confidence results from it, we know that's the placebo effect because white noise would not have done that if you were consciously listening, and there's no reason for it to make you more self confident.

If you listen to the "neural" sub, let's say it has the statement "There is a moon orbiting the earth", and you start getting self confidence results, again, we know this statement should have no such effect, so it would be placebo effect.

And if you use the self confidence sub, and you don't get any result, then we know that one of the following things is true:

1. The program doesn't actually work;
2. You are resisting it subconsciously;
3. There is something wrong with how it was made.

Now, in this case, we cannot answer the question of what's going on, because we only have one test subject. In a standard study, we might have 100 or 1,000 people in each group, and if say 98% of them got the intended result from the actual product and 2% did not, we would know that that 2% was in the vast minority and that the program works, but they were probably resisting it.

I know the program is made properly, and I know it works, because I have done these experiments before, privately. I have done many blind and double blind experiments in the past that prove beyond the shadow of a doubt in my mind that subliminals do work. So while it would not be valid for scientific scrutiny unless we did a formal study, I will know that if you happen to use the actual sub, and don't get the intended results, you are expressing subconscious resistance.

This would be something I would be building as a sort of "experimentation kit" for general use, although it would have a limited value and would have to be replaced every so often, as people started reporting results and thus influenced the results of others. I would not charge for it.

Thanks, I would love to a part of this experimentation. When shall I expect it to be ready? I know you are quite busy already with lot of work but i think sooner the better..

I am actually swamped beyond belief at the moment with my current experiments, but I should be able to create something without too much difficulty for you. I'll see about getting on that today if possible. I think for the time being, however, that you alone should be the one to get a copy, or else we might have people posting things that could possibly influence what you think you're using, and skew the experiment.

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OK, if I'm not wrong in understanding what you have posted it would be the following

1. That we are going to perform a double blind experiment with neither you nor me not knowing anything about which program I will be using for 3 months.

Almost. For a true double blind we need a lot more than one person to do the experiment with. We're going to get as close as possible.

2. That I will not be reporting any effects whatsoever I would be experiencing.

3. That I maintain a journal, and record the effects I believe are attributable/not attributable to the subliminal.
I have a question here, if i keep journal, i guess i would be keeping it in the forum (if I'm not wrong), will that not report to you what I'm experiencing.

You must keep a journal yourself. Posting it in the forum would allow access to me and everyone else, thus defeating the "blind" part. I cannot know what results you see during the three months of the experiment. Nobody else can, either. Otherwise they might influence you. You have to keep a journal in a notebook, or on your computer, and keep it private until the end of the experiment, where we exchange information. You tell me what you used and what you believe you observed as a result, and I tell you what you were actually using.

I'm happy that by your constant pursuance of experimenting with things you are going to be successful in creating something remarkable and outstanding ! We wish you achieve it sooner so that everyone will be benefited. I was thinking, you are using Manifest Wealth (if I'm not wrong) since a long time and you desire to be a multimillionaire, is this something which is going to lead you towards your goal, may be.

I am actually using Sex Magnet 2.0 right now. Not what I really want to be using, but I have to have the firsthand knowledge of it's effects. In about 15 days, I will decide whether I'm starting Alpha Male 5.0, or whether I'm going to do a month of the de-clutter your home experimental program I created to test 5G. Wealth programming will commence again next year some time. I'll get there eventually.

Thanks for working on my experiment in spite of your busy schedule, to make it clear what would be the title (theme, subject...I'm not getting a proper word to describe it) of the experiment, i mean the actual subliminal. Is it Self-confidence, if it is, I think instead of going for something abstract like this can we concentrate on 2-3 issues of mine which may not take long time in manifesting results, something tangible?
May be type A subliminals like Exercise motivation (this is one of the issue) or may be the other 2 or 3 issues of mine. if you agree I can post my issues and then you pick one for making programs?

I don't think you're getting it. You can have NO knowledge of what the subliminal is intended to do. So by me using the example of self confidence... I can't use that one. and I can't use any of your specific issues. I will select an idea that I believe will be effective for the experiment, and then use that, but you can have no hint, clue or knowledge as to what it actually is. That would defeat the experiment by introducing experimenter's bias.

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