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I disagree, somehow there is alot of talk about how being cocky or a bit arrogant isn't confidence and I don't know where it come from. I wonder if it is related to how masculinity is being attacked.

I mean at the extreme level yes it can be compensating and there is people who do that and it can come from insecurity.

But at the same time when I am fully confident I am also naturally cocky and it comes out in my interactions. And when that happens it isn't coming from insecurity.

I think that in some cases they actually do go together, and I can't say for sure but i'd point the finger at something to do with political correctness causing so much information out there telling us this isn't true.

No problem man.

I think confidence is your belief in your abilities whereas arrogance is confidence gained by putting others down. You can be cocky in a funny way (heck, people love it). But being cocky by putting others down is arrogance.

I have to chime in here. I, personally, come across as arrogant many times, but I don't put others down. I DO tell them how they could improve their lives, OR I tell my strong points, but never belittle people simply to raise myself up.

I think that overconfidence and arrogance go hand in hand, the more confident you are, the more intimidated and inferior those around you will feel.

The worst part is that we confident types are shamed into believing that it's wrong of us to be so confident, so we spend much of our lives trying to keep ourselves down and "humble" just so those around us can feel better about themselves. Emotional altruism in a way.

I wouldn't say that you are arrogant, although it might be a little hard to differentiate from what people write rather than hear them talk. If anything you have more of a stubbornness/self assuredness kind of thing going on nowadays, which is way healthier than plain arrogance.

Overconfidence is similar indeed, but more like overestimating your ability and doing things you actually can't rather than put others down to prove that you are superior. Overconfidence can be more dangerous in my personal view, arrogance just annoys people and can get your ass kicked. But I have to say that I haven't seen any arrogant people on this forum. Everyone is here to help themselves and give advice to those who seek it, so in general we got this in check most of the time.

With the latter I agree. People want you to be on their level, so the quote from somewhere: "You are the average of your 5 closest people" applies quite well. I think the trick here is to see through the fake "confident" ones, be stubborn about their negative input and more receptive to those who have real confidence. Maybe not on all their opinions, but the criticism is more often useful and aimed for your benefit.