01-18-2011, 08:09 PM
(01-18-2011, 07:35 PM)benjamin Wrote:Quote:2011 is an update and upgrade of the script to 4G. It now includes some manifestations designed to slowly but surely manifest certain social proofing responses from beautiful women. It includes a new focus on making the interest and reactions from interested women more obvious and direct, and it does include eye seduction in the last two stages.
I'm curious about these social proofing responses?
Like hugs from girls and stuff? I get all that social proof stuff when i'm doing security and it doesn't really seem to help me at all. Alot of girls hugging me and stuff because I am security and paying attention to me, but then when I want to make a move nothing happens most of the time.
I also see the same thing with another guy who all the girls hug, but then alot of them tell me he is creepy and stuff and i've never seen him get anywhere. There is alot of girls that go around hugging and paying attention to alot of guys, attention whores they are called and in the past I don't really think social proof has mattered, i've actually found sometimes that it upsets the girls who seem to be really interested because I am talking to all these other girls and they get upset and leave or think i'm not interested. Can't say i've noticed all this social proof helping me, pua's say it's important but i've just seen it scare off other girls who seem to be actually interested.
That's just my take on it. It does my head in a bit because in my security job alot of them show interest but it's not real, so it's ruined my self belief alot to see that their all over me in the club when i'm working but out of work alot of them want nothing to do with me.
I guess along with that would be, being able to realize who is really interested and who just wants attention or whatever, is anything like that included?
-Ben
I don't think your idea of social proof and mine are the same. Hugging girls doesn't mean jack for social proof. Having a super hot woman come out of nowhere to give you a hug without you asking for it - that gets social proof. Girls hugging you because they are getting something out of it, that's called usury. It is what girls do when they are manipulating guys, usually. But a girl/woman approaching you because she considers you her equal, her better or because she is interested in you, that's quite another matter.
Whenever I am shooting with an exceptionally beautiful model, I get insane responses from others based on nothing more than being "on level" with her as her photographer. People see me dealing with a woman who is exceptionally beautiful as if it's no big deal (it's not) and her responding as if I am in charge (I am), and they naturally conclude that I must have at least as much value and social status as she "must", since she is so gorgeous/glamorous/etc/whatever.
But, when I walk into the same place without said superhottie I get no such responses, even though I am not a bad looking guy. The reason is social proof. When a woman sees you being manipulated by another woman in order to get what she wants from you, your social proof actually decreases. That's why it seems to scare off other girls for you, seems like. That, and you can "OD" on value by making them feel like they're not good enough, not in your league.
When you get going with AM2011, you'll know who's really interested and who isn't without any trouble at all. You won't much care in either direction, either, but the women who are interested will be, shall we say, obvious. You'll see what I mean come stages 3, 4, 5, and especially 6.

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